Ed the Lyrical Genius

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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    bk159954 wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Maynard......Ed's one of the best but there have been some pretty cringeworthy moments on the last couple albums.

    Really? What makes you cringe?

    Gems and rhinestones and Future Days among others.
    october22 wrote:
    Maynard is without a doubt extremely solid. Save for some stuff on Opiate but that doesn't really count. I would also argue Thom Yorke.

    The thing about Maynard, for me, is he writes about things so foreign to rock music and in such an interesting unique way he's hard to top, but he can also go for the throat/heart with something really deep and heavy.
  • october22
    october22 Posts: 2,533
    GREG FUCKING GRAFFIN


    what took me so long...
  • fox_mulderX
    fox_mulderX Posts: 1,134
    october22 wrote:
    bicyclejoe wrote:
    :fp:
    Jack White
    Bono
    Bob Dylan
    Jim James
    Prince
    Springsteen
    Fiona Apple
    Thom Yorke
    Neko Case
    Eminem
    Conor Oberst
    Jay-Z
    Neil Young
    Lauryn Hill
    PJ Harvey
    Leonard Cohen
    Ryan Adams
    Matt Berringer (The National)
    The list goes on ...
    What a ludicrous comment

    Fine. Though I would disagree with 3 or 4, I would also add Tom Waits and Zack de la Rocha in there.

    Tom Waits is in a league of his own. There's good songwriters, great songwriters, then Tom Waits.
  • october22
    october22 Posts: 2,533
    DewieCox wrote:

    The thing about Maynard, for me, is he writes about things so foreign to rock music and in such an interesting unique way he's hard to top, but he can also go for the throat/heart with something really deep and heavy.

    Absolutely. 10,000 especially to that point. And the first APC record. I'm leaving Puscifer out of this discussion.
  • october22
    october22 Posts: 2,533
    fox_mulderX wrote:
    october22 wrote:
    bicyclejoe wrote:
    :fp:
    Jack White
    Bono
    Bob Dylan
    Jim James
    Prince
    Springsteen
    Fiona Apple
    Thom Yorke
    Neko Case
    Eminem
    Conor Oberst
    Jay-Z
    Neil Young
    Lauryn Hill
    PJ Harvey
    Leonard Cohen
    Ryan Adams
    Matt Berringer (The National)
    The list goes on ...
    What a ludicrous comment

    Fine. Though I would disagree with 3 or 4, I would also add Tom Waits and Zack de la Rocha in there.

    Tom Waits is in a league of his own. There's good songwriters, great songwriters, then Tom Waits.

    Hell yeah.
  • bk159954
    bk159954 Posts: 166
    bicyclejoe wrote:
    :fp:
    Jack White
    Bono
    Bob Dylan
    Jim James
    Prince
    Springsteen
    Fiona Apple
    Thom Yorke
    Michael Stipe
    Neko Case
    Jeff Tweedy
    Win Butler (Arcade Fire)
    Kanye West
    Conor Oberst
    Jay-Z
    Neil Young
    Lauryn Hill
    PJ Harvey
    Leonard Cohen
    Ryan Adams
    Matt Berringer (The National)
    The list goes on ...
    What a ludicrous comment

    If you are saying my comment was ludicrous, I apologize. I now bow down to you.
  • bicyclejoe
    bicyclejoe USA Posts: 1,203
    From an Australian review of LB:

    "So if you are a diehard fan and you’ve skipped to the end of this review, the answer is no, the album doesn’t have a song as haunting as 'Indifference' or 'Immortality' on it. It doesn’t have a call to arms sing-along like 'Not For You' or 'Breath'. If you’re after a genius Eddie Vedder in the 21st century, get yourself a copy of the soundtrack for Into The Wild and move along quietly. Pearl Jam has aged gracefully, but there comes to a point when even the graceful ones might wonder what they have left to offer. "
    My Pearl Jam Road: 10/22/90 Seattle | 12/22/90 Seattle, Moore Theater | 9/29/92 Seattle, Magnusson Park, Drop in the Park | 9/5/93 The Gorge, with Neil Young and Blind Melon | 7/20/06 Portland, Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall with Sleater-Kinney | 7/22/06 The Gorge, 10/21/06 Mountain View, Shoreline Ampitheatre, Bridge School Benefit | 9/21/09 Seattle | 9/22/09 Seattle | 9/26/09 Portland, OR | 7/14/2011 Eddie Vedder, Portland, OR | 11/29/13 Portland, OR
  • PJ212
    PJ212 Posts: 827
    Don't you think Ed would rather be called a Lyrical Gangster?
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  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    bicyclejoe wrote:
    From an Australian review of LB:"

    Ooh, an Australian review. So what, who cares! What do Australians know anyway!? :lol:
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  • october22
    october22 Posts: 2,533
    The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:
    bicyclejoe wrote:
    From an Australian review of LB:"

    Ooh, an Australian review. So what, who cares! What do Australians know anyway!? :lol:

    They know had to add three extra syllables to the word "no".
  • stipe19
    stipe19 Posts: 237
    The list would take too much of my time. But I will throw Neko Case into the mix.

    And Leonard Cohen put a pen to paper in the last 20 years so NUFF SAID
  • jumbojet
    jumbojet Posts: 1,484
    "If I ever were to lose you, I'd surely lose myself." :lol::lol:

    I am not a lyrics guy but I surely love some lyrics from old-school PJ songs like Evenflow, Given to Fly and Breakerfall. Those lyrics make these perfect songs uber-perfect, IMO.
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  • howIchoose2feel
    howIchoose2feel Posts: 366
    the lyrics guide me every day.
    The wisdom that the old can't give away

    How I choose to feel is how I am
  • Gerald Richey
    Gerald Richey Posts: 56
    I agree Eddie is the best , but there is a guy right up thee with him named Ben Harper that I believe is equally talented !:)
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    NewJPage wrote:
    october22 wrote:
    "I never knew soap made you taller"

    I've always loved that line. I was a media major in college and this line always struck a chord with me. Advertising fucking bullshit.

    Jeff lyric

    Ghost was an Ed/Jeff co-write. And, though I don't know for certain, I would bet my life saving the "soap" line came from Ed.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    I feel like the purpose of this thread got totally jacked, by the way.

    Also, I think Backspacer gets too much crap from a lyrical standpoint. I think there are some standout moments on that record. Poetically speaking, there's nothing wrong with gems and rhinestones. It's an imagery thing. He's talking about stars.

    Anyway, I'd add a masterful Ed line to the thread, but there are just too many. Can I just say "every single word of Getaway?"
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • shetellsherself
    shetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Anyway, I'd add a masterful Ed line to the thread, but there are just too many. Can I just say "every single word of the entire album lightning bolt?"


    Fixed. Seriously. I love BS and will never say a bad word about any of it but LB lyrics have that multi layered, head shaking in wonder, stop-your-car-in-the-street-to-listen quality that I've been craving. I would name specific songs but they all do this to me at some point just from a poetic, lyrical stand point. I'm blown away
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  • october22
    october22 Posts: 2,533
    "a third second chance"
  • PJspartan88
    PJspartan88 Posts: 15
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  • Anarmyofpeace
    Anarmyofpeace Posts: 254
    bicyclejoe wrote:
    :fp:
    Jack White
    Bono
    Bob Dylan
    Jim James
    Prince
    Springsteen
    Fiona Apple
    Thom Yorke
    Michael Stipe
    Neko Case
    Jeff Tweedy
    Win Butler (Arcade Fire)
    Kanye West
    Conor Oberst
    Jay-Z
    Neil Young
    Lauryn Hill
    PJ Harvey
    Leonard Cohen
    Ryan Adams
    Matt Berringer (The National)
    The list goes on ...
    What a ludicrous comment

    I agree . What a great list and you named most of my favorites! :)

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