It just hurts....

Fundalmentalist Fuzz
Fundalmentalist Fuzz Posts: 32
edited September 2013 in The Porch
You know... when someone you look up to does something that's embarrassing ....

( AKA like finding out your favorite baseball player (in this case that would be Will Clark #22 sf giants ) was a racist at a 5th grade birthday party

oh sirens


fuck man
It's Evolution Baby!!!!
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    I think you mean "ie" , not aka.

    I don't get the comparison between racist Will Clark and Sirens.
  • JTH
    JTH Chicago Posts: 3,238
    No, not i.e., you use that when you're restating something. (It means "that is.") When you're giving an example, you use e.g.

    And hey, did you know that all chaps are assless?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,299
    Hang in there OP. Wait to see what the rest of LB sounds like before you jump ship. That's my plan.
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Oh, it gets better after Sirens.

    I have to ask, how does someone become racist at a 5th graders party? Was it a Halloween party?
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    JTH wrote:
    No, not i.e., you use that when you're restating something. (It means "that is.") When you're giving an example, you use e.g.

    And hey, did you know that all chaps are assless?

    Oh whatever, ya damn know-it-all. :lol:

    Does that make pants assful?
  • PRL1JAM
    PRL1JAM Posts: 787
    Will the "THRILL" is a racist?

    say it ain't so, Joe :(
  • Fundalmentalist Fuzz
    Fundalmentalist Fuzz Posts: 32
    Not jumping ship. I respect everyone's opinion on music ...music theory not fact n all that jazz

    just

    All ...Racist Will Clark and Sirens comparison is just feeling let down man ... just feel let down by folks I admire..

    you know ....

    like when I found out that is depends on your definition of "is" from Bill until Bill said really I'm a horny mo of and did the whoopee with Monica Lewinsky .... really Monica Lewinsky..for real tho? Bill


    PJ sirens... come on man for real tho?
    It's Evolution Baby!!!!
  • KC2917
    KC2917 Posts: 872
    I'm confused here. And Will Clark is my my favorite baseball player of all time. Just sayin.
  • 63schoefflin
    63schoefflin Posts: 2,581
    I think Sirens is along the same exact lines of Betterman and Daughter. Pretty basic, catchy tune but hopefully they expand on it live.
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  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    JTH wrote:
    No, not i.e., you use that when you're restating something. (It means "that is.") When you're giving an example, you use e.g.

    And hey, did you know that all chaps are assless?
    You are correct on this.. But on the chaps part, you are incorrect. There are chaps both for motorcycle riders, and working cowboys or rodeo riders that are full chaps..
  • YieldToNothing
    YieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
    i felt that way when i first heard sirens. i respected it as a well put together song, but i couldn't get over the direction it was coming from.

    the song did get to me though and i've changed my stance. it may or may not creep up on you one day, but don't be disappointed that the band wrote it. yea, its a bit cheez whiz, but wait for the record, put it in context, then draw a conclusion.
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  • cippociappo
    cippociappo Posts: 692
    If there's something... ANYTHING that is very important to you in life... so important that you're scared to lose it someday....
    ... how can you NOT like Sirens?

    I can't understand this "cheese" argument.
    Pondering on how our mortality will put an end to EVERYTHING we care about and love: is that cheesy?
    Well, I'm the cheesiest one of all then.
    My guess is a lot of people think cheese every time the word "love" shows up in a song.

    I understand that the music can be off putting for someone. A ballad like this coming fro PJ and all.
    But the message... the message is so powerful. Doesn't that account for anything?

    :?

    Please don't take this the wrong way. It's just that this song speaks so much to me... the hate it gets just baffles me.
    Different strokes I guess....
    Makes me ache, makes me shake...
    ...is it so wrong to think that love can keep us safe?
  • YieldToNothing
    YieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
    cippociappo wrote:
    If there's something... ANYTHING that is very important to you in life... so important that you're scared to lose it someday....
    ... how can you NOT like Sirens?

    I can't understand this "cheese" argument.
    Pondering on how our mortality will put an end to EVERYTHING we care about and love: is that cheesy?
    Well, I'm the cheesiest one of all then.
    My guess is a lot of people think cheese every time the word "love" shows up in a song.

    I understand that the music can be off putting for someone. A ballad like this coming fro PJ and all.
    But the message... the message is so powerful. Doesn't that account for anything?

    :?

    Please don't take this the wrong way. It's just that this song speaks so much to me... the hate it gets just baffles me.
    Different strokes I guess....

    you not understanding how people cannot like the song is heads, people not understanding how someone CAN like the song is tails. same coin, my friend.
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  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    63schoefflin wrote:
    I think Sirens is along the same exact lines of Betterman and Daughter. Pretty basic, catchy tune but hopefully they expand on it live.

    Yep. And while not quite the same, but in the same "testosterone-scaring motif" you also have Wishlist, Come Back, Nothingman, Off He Goes, Soon Forget, Just Breathe, The End, etc,.

    Put another way, they've been doing "ballady" songs from the beginning. This one has a different direction undoubtedly, but whether or not that type of music is your thing, I am just surprised that the song is not being given credit as a well put together quality piece. I mean it isn't my personal favorite either, but I do think it is well written and composed. When my fav band starts writing complete junk without thought or effort, that's when I'll be embarrased.
  • broloco
    broloco Posts: 1,237
    this whole thread is an embarassment. it just hurts reading it...
  • JTH
    JTH Chicago Posts: 3,238
    DewieCox wrote:
    Oh whatever, ya damn know-it-all. :lol:
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  • JTH
    JTH Chicago Posts: 3,238
    whispering hands wrote:
    You are correct on this.. But on the chaps part, you are incorrect. There are chaps both for motorcycle riders, and working cowboys or rodeo riders that are full chaps..
    This subject might need its own thread.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    cippociappo wrote:
    If there's something... ANYTHING that is very important to you in life... so important that you're scared to lose it someday....
    ... how can you NOT like Sirens?

    I can't understand this "cheese" argument.
    Pondering on how our mortality will put an end to EVERYTHING we care about and love: is that cheesy?
    Well, I'm the cheesiest one of all then.
    My guess is a lot of people think cheese every time the word "love" shows up in a song.

    I understand that the music can be off putting for someone. A ballad like this coming fro PJ and all.
    But the message... the message is so powerful. Doesn't that account for anything?

    :?

    Please don't take this the wrong way. It's just that this song speaks so much to me... the hate it gets just baffles me.
    Different strokes I guess....

    Lyrically, this song contains one of the deepest premises of Ed's writing career. Love is the thing that makes you feel safe in a world full of sirens, yet at the same time, having something to love and the fear of losing it is what makes those sirens feel so dangerous in the first place.

    It's a great paradox of the human condition.

    I don't know this for a fact, but I assume Nickelback is not approaching this level of lyrical depth.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    I always thought Will Clark was a robot. Helluva swing!
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