Is Sirens the most polarizing PJ song ever?!

PeArLgOoNeR
PeArLgOoNeR Posts: 1,255
edited September 2013 in The Porch
I've never enjoyed reading peoples reactions to new PJ like I have with this one :lol:

Was there ever a song of theirs that sparked such an immidiate reaction of love/hate?

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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    its all the same with huge,great,amazing things in life..
    people love it,or love to hate it..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • scratched vinyl
    scratched vinyl Posts: 742
    PeArLgOoNeR wrote:
    I've never enjoyed reading peoples reactions to new PJ like I have with this one :lol:

    Was there ever a song of theirs that sparked such an immidiate reaction of love/hate?

    Anything poppy has caused similar debate, The Fixer and Unemployable come to mind. Before Avocado we were much more united.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    scratched vinyl wrote:
    PeArLgOoNeR wrote:
    I've never enjoyed reading peoples reactions to new PJ like I have with this one :lol:

    Was there ever a song of theirs that sparked such an immidiate reaction of love/hate?

    Anything poppy has caused similar debate, The Fixer and Unemployable come to mind. Before Avocado we were much more united.
    for sure the fixer didnt get the same mad love as sirens..and its fair thing to happen
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • ForceofNature101
    ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
    It means that PJ is still changing things up, which is good ;) It is also a slow burner in my opinion just purely based on my own reactions to it


    Here is how my journey with Sirens has gone so far:

    1st listen: All this buildup for this tune? Slightly disappointing, it is too poppy and upbeat for a PJ song

    2nd listen: Hey those harmonies Ed does are really cool. And he sounds fantastic. Cool solo from Mike

    3rd listen: Hmm I actually like this tune

    4th listen and since: Holy shit this is a killer tune! It all clicked with me this time around, this tune is melodic and really nice
  • klusterfuk
    klusterfuk Posts: 1,411
    I dig it. cant wait till Pittsburgh.
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  • nickburrows14
    nickburrows14 Posts: 858
    Just wait until the album comes out! The beginning of the Ten Club civil war
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  • scratched vinyl
    scratched vinyl Posts: 742
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    for sure the fixer didnt get the same mad love as sirens..and its fair thing to happen

    Yup I'll give you that it's fair. I think I'm in the minority though in that I've loved The Fixer since the first time I heard it. Eddie's brilliant at writing lyrics with positive messages without being over-sentimental - I always thought that song was a perfect example of it.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    scratched vinyl wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    for sure the fixer didnt get the same mad love as sirens..and its fair thing to happen

    Yup I'll give you that it's fair. I think I'm in the minority though in that I've loved The Fixer since the first time I heard it. Eddie's brilliant at writing lyrics with positive messages without being over-sentimental - I always thought that song was a perfect example of it.
    its stange with some songs..the fixer didnt say alot to me,but i like it at live shows..its fun ..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • frankmookie
    frankmookie Posts: 35
    It's a good question.. :)

    We can say that Sirens had more impact than Mind Your Manners. Maybe because MYM does not surprise us in terms of sound... We could put MYM in Yeld for example.
    But sirens is a new thing :) Love it or Hate it (I love it pernonaly). The sound is fresh in terms of Pearl Jam reportory.
    But even if you hate it, give credit to the band for trying new things out :) THEY ARE ALIVE !! They want to surprise us.. they want to evolve :)

    :)

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  • Neil Bruce
    Neil Bruce Posts: 132
    ForceofNature101 wrote:
    It means that PJ is still changing things up, which is good ;) It is also a slow burner in my opinion just purely based on my own reactions to it


    Here is how my journey with Sirens has gone so far:

    1st listen: All this buildup for this tune? Slightly disappointing, it is too poppy and upbeat for a PJ song

    2nd listen: Hey those harmonies Ed does are really cool. And he sounds fantastic. Cool solo from Mike

    3rd listen: Hmm I actually like this tune

    4th listen and since: Holy shit this is a killer tune! It all clicked with me this time around, this tune is melodic and really nice

    This is pretty much how it went for me too! :)
  • Johnny Aggro
    Johnny Aggro Posts: 543
    frankmookie wrote:
    It's a good question.. :)

    We can say that Sirens had more impact than Mind Your Manners. Maybe because MYM does not surprise us in terms of sound... We could put MYM in Yeld for example.
    But sirens is a new thing :) Love it or Hate it (I love it pernonaly). The sound is fresh in terms of Pearl Jam reportory.
    But even if you hate it, give credit to the band for trying new things out :) THEY ARE ALIVE !! They want to surprise us.. they want to evolve :)

    :)

    Cheers Tenners!

    Definitely agree. Coming into Work today listening to the radio and the whole morning show was dedicated to celebrating the 20th anniversary of In utero. I am like... compare that to Pearl Jam. Two roads diverged in a yellow wood. I always remember having bought both Vs and In Utero. there was a whole "who will release first". And I remember saying to myself at the time, I just know Pearl Jam will be around longer

    Couple months later my Nirvana ticket dated 08.04.94 (same day Cobain was found) was useless and my gut feeling was right.

    Damn I wish my ma didn't make me get a refund on that ticket #losttreasure :fp:
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Johnny Aggro wrote:
    frankmookie wrote:
    It's a good question.. :)

    We can say that Sirens had more impact than Mind Your Manners. Maybe because MYM does not surprise us in terms of sound... We could put MYM in Yeld for example.
    But sirens is a new thing :) Love it or Hate it (I love it pernonaly). The sound is fresh in terms of Pearl Jam reportory.
    But even if you hate it, give credit to the band for trying new things out :) THEY ARE ALIVE !! They want to surprise us.. they want to evolve :)

    :)

    Cheers Tenners!

    Definitely agree. Coming into Work today listening to the radio and the whole morning show was dedicated to celebrating the 20th anniversary of In utero. I am like... compare that to Pearl Jam. Two roads diverged in a yellow wood. I always remember having bought both Vs and In Utero. there was a whole "who will release first". And I remember saying to myself at the time, I just know Pearl Jam will be around longer

    Couple months later my Nirvana ticket dated 08.04.94 (same day Cobain was found) was useless and my gut feeling was right.

    Damn I wish my ma didn't make me get a refund on that ticket #losttreasure :fp:


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  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    I think its so polarizing because its the only new song out right now, so everyone is talking about it. Once the whole album comes out we will all have several songs to talk about, so reactions will be less intense.
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  • Champagne Breakfast
    Champagne Breakfast Posts: 1,526
    I'm not sure I've ever reacted to a PJ single they way I have hear. It took a few listens/video watches to truly get it and I actually draw something else every time I hear the song.

    There are two things that jump out to me on this topic....
    1-The lyrics and vibe are intense, emotional and honest. If you allow yourself to get submersed by the song you can't help but think about your own life. I've seen so many people mention it brought them to tears (maybe me too? ;) ).
    I have a feeling this song live is gonna be an emotional roller-coaster for most in the building that night

    2-Revealing the song via video performance added a whole new dimension. Seeing the sincerity in which the song is performed makes it so special. Especially seeing the band come together and all sing the ending
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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Frankly, I like it when they get inspired to try something different. It's healthy to change sometimes! I feel that fans that complain about the band too much are exactly like old friends that try to keep their friends from growing. It's WRONG to do that to others!
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    justam wrote:
    Frankly, I like it when they get inspired to try something different. It's healthy to change sometimes! I feel that fans that complain about the band too much are exactly like old friends that try to keep their friends from growing. It's WRONG to do that to others!
    Wrong...
    Fugazi didn't shit the bed when they got older, In fact The Argument is probably one of their best albums.
    Fugazi knew when their time was up
    Some bands know how to evolve musically/creatively (or know the effort)
    Pearl Jam is not one of those bands, Since 2003 we have had (almost) 3 albums of rehashed riffs and basically tribute covers to bands that they look up to...As well as horrendous album art work.
  • Kimmiebyrom
    Kimmiebyrom Posts: 1,832
    I think there will be a complete shitstorm around here when the album is released. I'm looking forward to the debate about the music, what people are getting from the songs, the direction of the band, etc. I am NOT looking forward to the senseless crap-slinging and insults that will inevitably occur. One can certainly not like something the band does, even hate it, without insulting another human being in the process. I've already seen people who like Sirens being billed as idiots, delusional, sheep, etc. It's like we forgot how to talk to with another reasonably! Sure, our band brings out emotions but DAMN.
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  • Whywhyzed
    Whywhyzed Posts: 270
    All band fanbases do this, unfortunately. It is what it is.
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,904
    Blockhead wrote:
    justam wrote:
    Frankly, I like it when they get inspired to try something different. It's healthy to change sometimes! I feel that fans that complain about the band too much are exactly like old friends that try to keep their friends from growing. It's WRONG to do that to others!
    Wrong...
    Fugazi didn't shit the bed when they got older, In fact The Argument is probably one of their best albums.
    Fugazi knew when their time was up
    Some bands know how to evolve musically/creatively (or know the effort)
    Pearl Jam is not one of those bands, Since 2003 we have had (almost) 3 albums of rehashed riffs and basically tribute covers to bands that they look up to...As well as horrendous album art work.

    I disagree, but that is OK. I don't think Fugazi is the greatest band in the world or the argument to use here in my opinion. And what happened in 2003? I don't find Riot Act to be the defining PJ album either. I still rank it towards the bottom of their work. At least for me.
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  • Neil Bruce
    Neil Bruce Posts: 132
    Champagne Breakfast wrote:
    2-Revealing the song via video performance added a whole new dimension. Seeing the sincerity in which the song is performed makes it so special. Especially seeing the band come together and all sing the ending

    I love that part at the end where they all sing...it makes me smile every time :)

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