My opinion of Brendan O'Brien...

Soulfire42 · September 2013

He likes to add a layer of cheese to everything he touches these days and is rather full of himself.

xsmytx · September 2013

agree..what the hell happened?

dimitrispearljam · September 2013

if the cheece is Feta is fine by me!!!

Soulfire42 · September 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

if the cheece is Feta is fine by me!!!

Pretty sure it's the cheez that comes in a spray can these days, brother.

dimitrispearljam · September 2013

Soulfire42 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

if the cheece is Feta is fine by me!!!

Pretty sure it's the cheez that comes in a spray can these days, brother.

i hear ya!!!

tcadd94 · September 2013

Soulfire42 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

if the cheece is Feta is fine by me!!!

Pretty sure it's the cheez that comes in a spray can these days, brother.

Ha, agree as well.

JT214511 · September 2013

Seriously. The band obviously has a say in these cheese decisions, but I'm guessing they originate with O'Brien. Even the songs that aren't inherently cheesy seem over-produced and over-polished. I really like a lot of songs they've put out recently, but the production is always a little over the top for my taste. Mind Your Manners is a good example of this. I really dig the song and the performances on the track are great, but the vocals are super processed compared to the punkier songs on an album like Vitalogy or even the punky songs on S/T.

I just can't figure out why the band is making these decisions. Do they actually like production that sounds like this or are they trying to appeal to more mainstream radio audiences? For a band that recently had Ten remixed because it was too glossy and overproduced, they seem to be really going for the radio friendly sound here. I miss the production quality of albums like Yield and Riot Act. However, with all that said, I'm still enjoying the vast majority of Pearl Jam's output.

Keep on Jammin · September 2013

Soulfire42 wrote:

He likes to add a layer of cheese to everything he touches these days and is rather full of himself.

You don't want some cheese with your whine?

maki_j · September 2013

The production aside the path he is leading them on is not good. Can't mention much but I have a "feeling" this album is going to be super cheesy. The 80s called and want their guitar riffs back. :fp:

Sounds like he also pushed them to do the Uke song. :nono:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... t-20130731

All in all I think they can do better without him. Get another producer next time.

Porchsitter · September 2013

Half of the people can be part right all of the time
Some of the people can be all right part of the time
But all of the people can’t be all right all of the time
I think Abraham Lincoln said that

Read more: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/talkin ... z2fC7MkbkT

Tboz51 · September 2013

Five words...

Danny Elfman Oompa Loompa Effects

Lightning Bolt

Not sure I remember a PJ song with sound effects?

Still a excellent song in my opinion.

Newch91 · September 2013

Porchsitter wrote:

Half of the people can be part right all of the time
Some of the people can be all right part of the time
But all of the people can’t be all right all of the time
I think Abraham Lincoln said that

Read more: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/talkin ... z2fC7MkbkT

:thumbup: Knew immediately where you going with this from the first line.

DewieCox · September 2013

I really think you're laying the blame at the wrong feet. PJ decides what their albums sound like. I also think people are looking for a reason when they don't like the songs, when it's usually as simple as the song is not to their liking. I can't really think of a song that is completely ruined by production.

I wonder, did people complain so much when they heard the slick production of Yield?

Lets not act like PJ has ever had that raw of a sound for their albums.

bootleg · September 2013

It sucks because on one hand he had a helping hand in some of PJs best work. But I now I fear he has become completely affected by the music business. When PJ started they defined the sound and music of a generation. There was really nothing quite like it and many other bands that came after tried to emulate it. Every record PJ released continued to break new ground. Now it seems to be moving slightly the other way, and I while I don't have any concrete proof I feel BOB has had too much of the wrong influence in this shift.

While I haven't heard the song yet, his comments around the inclusion of Sleeping By Myself alone seem to indicate that he definitely has some influence in the artistic direction. He said he thought it could really be a radio hit, and those who have heard it described it as having a Mumford and Sons vibe. That is the definition of being affected as there are countless bands and artists trying to emulate the Mumford and Sons sound. Leave that shit to them. Chart new territory. The second someone says "this sounds like a radio hit" it should be cause for alarm because what's on the radio right now is shit. I don't begrudge PJ success on the radio, but don't try to just fit the mold. Try to re-define it.

EarlWelsh · September 2013

bootleg wrote:

It sucks because on one hand he had a helping hand in some of PJs best work. But I now I fear he has become completely affected by the music business. When PJ started they defined the sound and music of a generation. There was really nothing quite like it and many other bands that came after tried to emulate it. Every record PJ released continued to break new ground. Now it seems to be moving slightly the other way, and I while I don't have any concrete proof I feel BOB has had too much of the wrong influence in this shift.

While I haven't heard the song yet, his comments around the inclusion of Sleeping By Myself alone seem to indicate that he definitely has some influence in the artistic direction. He said he thought it could really be a radio hit, and those who have heard it described it as having a Mumford and Sons vibe. That is the definition of being affected as there are countless bands and artists trying to emulate the Mumford and Sons sound. Leave that shit to them. Chart new territory. The second someone says "this sounds like a radio hit" it should be cause for alarm because what's on the radio right now is shit. I don't begrudge PJ success on the radio, but don't try to just fit the mold. Try to re-define it.

BOOYA!

LloydXmas · September 2013

Soulfire42 wrote:

He likes to add a layer of cheese to everything he touches these days and is rather full of himself.

Fromunda Cheese

maki_j · September 2013

EarlWelsh wrote:

bootleg wrote:

It sucks because on one hand he had a helping hand in some of PJs best work. But I now I fear he has become completely affected by the music business. When PJ started they defined the sound and music of a generation. There was really nothing quite like it and many other bands that came after tried to emulate it. Every record PJ released continued to break new ground. Now it seems to be moving slightly the other way, and I while I don't have any concrete proof I feel BOB has had too much of the wrong influence in this shift.

While I haven't heard the song yet, his comments around the inclusion of Sleeping By Myself alone seem to indicate that he definitely has some influence in the artistic direction. He said he thought it could really be a radio hit, and those who have heard it described it as having a Mumford and Sons vibe. That is the definition of being affected as there are countless bands and artists trying to emulate the Mumford and Sons sound. Leave that shit to them. Chart new territory. The second someone says "this sounds like a radio hit" it should be cause for alarm because what's on the radio right now is shit. I don't begrudge PJ success on the radio, but don't try to just fit the mold. Try to re-define it.

BOOYA!

I second that. Well said.