Are we becoming too greedy?
Are some Ten Club members becoming a bit too greedy?
I use the pronoun "we" to describe a certain select number of individuals in the fan club, it's not universal. But I've noticed that there are some club members in the forums that talk about how they are treated unfairly as a member based off of what they deem they should get. For example, earlier today there was an individual who insulted the band over and over again just because they wouldn't release more information faster about the "Future Days" tease that's been going on for the past few hours. I've also noticed that there are Ten Club members who are not satisfied with the ticketing policy, the merchandise, the way this website is run, and various other things.
I feel that these people are asking a little too much for what they already have. As a Ten Club member I will admit that I've had frustrations about the club, but I've always felt that this is the fairest and most loyal fan club that's out there.
1) you get QUALITY merchandise as fair prices
2) I've seen band websites that run much less efficient than this (just go check out Chevelle's)
3) the way that ticketing is run most likely isn't run by the band itself, so don't blame it on them. It's just the way it is so deal with it.
4) Most band memberships don't offer perks like discounts, forums, and exclusive items. These are basically privileges that you're complaining about.
5) The people who run the fan club do the best that they can and are creative, just like the band itself. Trying looking at it from their point of view.
6) We as members are part of one of the best bands on the planet IMO. We need to be more grateful for what we have and we shouldn't expect the band to give up too much. They plan these things based on what we as a majority would like to see and hear. They know their fans more than any other group out there and that is why their fan base is so loyal.
Please remember all of this the next time you complain about small little problems. Love ya guys, peace!
I use the pronoun "we" to describe a certain select number of individuals in the fan club, it's not universal. But I've noticed that there are some club members in the forums that talk about how they are treated unfairly as a member based off of what they deem they should get. For example, earlier today there was an individual who insulted the band over and over again just because they wouldn't release more information faster about the "Future Days" tease that's been going on for the past few hours. I've also noticed that there are Ten Club members who are not satisfied with the ticketing policy, the merchandise, the way this website is run, and various other things.
I feel that these people are asking a little too much for what they already have. As a Ten Club member I will admit that I've had frustrations about the club, but I've always felt that this is the fairest and most loyal fan club that's out there.
1) you get QUALITY merchandise as fair prices
2) I've seen band websites that run much less efficient than this (just go check out Chevelle's)
3) the way that ticketing is run most likely isn't run by the band itself, so don't blame it on them. It's just the way it is so deal with it.
4) Most band memberships don't offer perks like discounts, forums, and exclusive items. These are basically privileges that you're complaining about.
5) The people who run the fan club do the best that they can and are creative, just like the band itself. Trying looking at it from their point of view.
6) We as members are part of one of the best bands on the planet IMO. We need to be more grateful for what we have and we shouldn't expect the band to give up too much. They plan these things based on what we as a majority would like to see and hear. They know their fans more than any other group out there and that is why their fan base is so loyal.
Please remember all of this the next time you complain about small little problems. Love ya guys, peace!
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Because one show just isn't enough. :roll:
I am guilty as anyone, but we are only half to blame for the band has spoon fed us, no more like a Chinese Bile Bear Hose in reverse everything from stickers to hats to baby clothes, to ski jackets, to bootlegs to posters to vinyls, to preferred seating, to radio broadcasts, to videos, to amazing live shows.......
As Thievery Corporation calls it, this band is a Beautiful Drug
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EDIT ^^^ haha, beat me to it.
PS - oh man, I just fucking HATE these theads. :roll:
And spill it all over the stage
Would it satisfy ya, would it slide on by ya
Would you think the boy is strange? Ain't he strange?
If I could win ya, if I could sing ya
A love song so divine
Would it be enough for your cheating heart
If I broke down and cried? If I cried?
I said I know it's only rock 'n roll but I like it
I know it's only rock 'n roll but I like it, like it, yes, I do
Oh, well, I like it, I like it, I like it
I said can't you see that this old boy has been a lonely?
If I could stick a knife in my heart
Suicide right on stage
Would it be enough for your teenage lust
Would it help to ease the pain? Ease your brain?
If I could dig down deep in my heart
Feelings would flood on the page
Would it satisfy ya, would it slide on by ya
Would ya think the boy's insane? He's insane
I said I know it's only rock 'n roll but I like it
I said I know it's only rock'n roll but I like it, like it, yes, I do
Oh, well, I like it, I like it, I like it
I said can't you see that this old boy has been a lonely?
And do ya think that you're the only girl around?
I bet you think that you're the only woman in town
I said I know it's only rock 'n roll but I like it
I said I know it's only rock 'n roll but I like it
I said I know it's only rock 'n roll but I like it, like it, yes, I do
Oh, well, I like it, I like it. I like it...
Rolling Stone, "It's Only Rock 'N' Roll (But I Like It)"
We really don't 'need' t-shirts or concert tickets... we want them, yeah, but as far as needing those things... well, not so much. Greed is founded in want.
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While I completely love Chevelle, their website is almost embarrassing haha. When you access the store content sometimes, either the page won't even load properly or you can't access the main page from there because it opens a whole new window. Gotta love the bands music though :thumbup:
it seems like a pretty harmless thing to be greedy about really.
I just gotta say, Chevelle was one of the worst performances I ever saw. Saw 'em open for Foo Fighters once, and I hated every minute of it. I went with my brother -- a meathead, of sorts -- and he loved them. To each his own, I suppose.
But I'm glad PJ's website is better. I wouldn't have expected any less.
I think the downside is all about the approach we take. for example, its ok to want a show in our area but if we don't get one its not OK to bitch about the band not playing closer to our homes.
I remember when the tour dates was put out there and i saw that they were not going to play in Toronto, i was a bit pissed but then i remember that they play here all the time and maybe not having a show in Toronto is noty the end of the world. hell, i am already seeing them in Buffalo and saw them in London.
I personally don't complain about it - but i don't see the harm.
Annoying - sure.
Is it hurting anyone - no, not at all.
Maybe not hurting, but I would think that if the band ever did read some of the stuff on the forums they might wonder why they bother doing anything for the fans. There are some truly whiny self entitled people on here. I sometimes feel dirty after reading some of these posts and threads.
I'm just happy my favorite band is still touring, and releasing music. Whatever they want to put out into the world is cool by me.
Answer: Oh, about ten years ago (give or take).
After all they are PEARL JAM.
to answer the OP's question - YES we are greedy.
We are all addicted to this Pearl Jam shit man!
have you EVER heard a crackhead say "nah, i have had enough crack this year."
FUCK NO!
Some of us are just a little better at keeping the monster at bay
Major disappointment. It comes with want and exceedingly high expectations.
Is that why Ament went out of his way to avoid talking to fans after a good half of all the RNDM shows?
Yeah, he REALLY loves the fans...
Some of us are addicts, most of us are healthy. Consider the addicts the greedy ones. There's nothing healthy about an addict.
Do you live in his brain?
Until he speaks for himself, all I know is that he refused to come out at the show I was at. And I understood why. Some people were pushing Joe and Richard to go get him because they wanted autographs and photos. Pushy, pushy, pushy!
Good post WhyGo91. Even though I am not sure if you are making a joke or not SVRDhand13, you do come to the core of the problem. It is this mindset that sometimes get overblown in the forums. It is not necessarily greed as "entitlement". We *deserve* this, we *deserve* that, because I wrote 7000 posts on TenC and 20 000 on TSIS, because I bought 100 T-shirts, because I bought all the albums etc. etc. etc.
Lets put it in perspective: you write the posts because you got nothing better to do, you bought the T-shirts more or less likely because you want to remember a certain gig, tour or trip you made. You bought the albums, well, because you are a fan. And yes, you may have your favourite one out there - and no album will hold up against it - still you will buy the albums. That is their core business! That is what we fell in love with.
So in the end the band owes you nothing; you invested in yourself.
Sometimes I feel like this band can do no good, that everything is an opening to whine and complain. (Some people are already complaining about the title "Yellow moon"! They haven't even heard the song yet nor the lyrics/ context etc.) They are not near your hometown - complain. Lottery - complain. Marketing - complain. Seeing 1/4th of the artwork before it is completly uploaded - complain. Seeing song titles - complain. Fanboard - complain. Seeing the lyrics - complain. Ed doesn't hold a certain key long enough during a 2.5 hour concert - complain. They didn't play your song during a concert - complain. Dont like the new direction the band is taking (and you interpret that as "the band doesn't grow") - complain.
There is one thing I will do when this album comes out. Put on my earphones and hide from all forums for awhile... For there will be an avalance of complaints. (That song could be better, that baseline could be better, the lyrics could be better, that song sucks, the album doesn't hold up to... -take your pick. Complaints. Complaints. Complaints.) As Fifi stated; it is ok to be disgrunted, but be mature about it and put it in your own subjective perspective. Instead of: "this baseline sucks", try: "what do you think of the baseline?" instead of an endless string of whining...
And I know, I know - for that is the next argument - that I am "complaining" myself. Even still, WhyGo91 brings up a good point. An introspective point.
Gimme dat cookie.
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