The Sopranos

Digital Twilight · January 2010

rrivers wrote:

It is great. I have been watching the whole series this fall, somewhat out of order. I still have season 2 and Season 6 to finish.

I still don't understand how selfish murders makes you proud to be Italian, but to each his own.

Yeah i was a little confused about that. The Kray twins don't make me proud to be English :?:

I need to start collecting these on dvd i think, and Babylon 5...

BadaBing · January 2010

Sopranos use to be my favorite tv series of all time until the excellent "The Wire" came along

AllNiteThing · January 2010

rrivers wrote:

It is great. I have been watching the whole series this fall, somewhat out of order. I still have season 2 and Season 6 to finish.

I still don't understand how selfish murders makes you proud to be Italian, but to each his own.

You're missing his point, and tangentially, the point of the show.

It's not about the mob or 'selfish murders', it's focus is on the family's that these people have, and their real life day to day activities. They just happen to be in the mob. They are full blooded Italians, and since it's main element is family interaction, it is a slice of Italian Americana life. The poster who is proud to be Italian because of this show is OBVIOUSLY not referring to the mob side of it, but rather the Italian family elements, which this show executes expertly.

This reminds me of when someone tries to compare something to Nazi Germany or a leader to Hitler and some nudnick shoots you down and brings up the Holocaust and how you can't compare. You do realize there was more to Nazi Germany than the Holocaust. There was more to the Sopranos than mob hits.

rrivers · January 2010

AllNiteThing wrote:

rrivers wrote:

It is great. I have been watching the whole series this fall, somewhat out of order. I still have season 2 and Season 6 to finish.

I still don't understand how selfish murders makes you proud to be Italian, but to each his own.

You're missing his point, and tangentially, the point of the show.

It's not about the mob or 'selfish murders', it's focus is on the family's that these people have, and their real life day to day activities. They just happen to be in the mob. They are full blooded Italians, and since it's main element is family interaction, it is a slice of Italian Americana life. The poster who is proud to be Italian because of this show is OBVIOUSLY not referring to the mob side of it, but rather the Italian family elements, which this show executes expertly.

This reminds me of when someone tries to compare something to Nazi Germany or a leader to Hitler and some nudnick shoots you down and brings up the Holocaust and how you can't compare. You do realize there was more to Nazi Germany than the Holocaust. There was more to the Sopranos than mob hits.

I forgot you are the expert on all things Sopranos. The characters on the show outside of their mob activities are still nothing to be proud of. You must be referring to the great family interaction of a mother who tries to have her son killed and the son then almost smothering his mother with a pillow. Or maybe the many times Christopher hit Adriana. Or Tony's cheating. Right, I forgot how much there is to look up to there.

Great show with compelling characters, yes. Model of family life? Not so much. Thanks for explaining the point of the show to all us nudnicks.

Byrnzie · January 2010

AllNiteThing wrote:

rrivers wrote:

It is great. I have been watching the whole series this fall, somewhat out of order. I still have season 2 and Season 6 to finish.

I still don't understand how selfish murders makes you proud to be Italian, but to each his own.

You're missing his point, and tangentially, the point of the show.

It's not about the mob or 'selfish murders', it's focus is on the family's that these people have, and their real life day to day activities. They just happen to be in the mob. They are full blooded Italians, and since it's main element is family interaction, it is a slice of Italian Americana life. The poster who is proud to be Italian because of this show is OBVIOUSLY not referring to the mob side of it, but rather the Italian family elements, which this show executes expertly.

This reminds me of when someone tries to compare something to Nazi Germany or a leader to Hitler and some nudnick shoots you down and brings up the Holocaust and how you can't compare. You do realize there was more to Nazi Germany than the Holocaust. There was more to the Sopranos than mob hits.

As Paulie would say: 'Exatamondo my friend!'

xavier mcdaniel · January 2010

Regardless of their failings as human beings such as being sociopaths, murderers and womanizers, the mafia has always been a compelling draw largely because of the secretive ways of organized crime. That's why the show is so compelling and why I always watch it on demand. Right now, I just finished watching season five, which is my favorite of the last three years.

rrivers · January 2010

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

Regardless of their failings as human beings such as being sociopaths, murderers and womanizers, the mafia has always been a compelling draw largely because of the secretive ways of organized crime. That's why the show is so compelling and why I always watch it on demand. Right now, I just finished watching season five, which is my favorite of the last three years.

I agree with you completely. The show was compelling for a number of reasons. Organized crime in itself is compelling. Throw in fully formed characters, smart dialogue and you have one of, if not the most watchable tv show ever.

xavier mcdaniel · January 2010

rrivers wrote:

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

Regardless of their failings as human beings such as being sociopaths, murderers and womanizers, the mafia has always been a compelling draw largely because of the secretive ways of organized crime. That's why the show is so compelling and why I always watch it on demand. Right now, I just finished watching season five, which is my favorite of the last three years.

I agree with you completely. The show was compelling for a number of reasons. Organized crime in itself is compelling. Throw in fully formed characters, smart dialogue and you have one of, if not the most watchable tv show ever.

I love varies subtle deliveries of the dialogue. Perfect example is the second to last episode of season five, Chris is late and when Tony asks where he was, his answer is the following:

"The highway was jammed with heroes on a last-chance power trip".

MayDay10 · January 2010

I guess I am in the minority. In my view, The Sopranos is a colossal disappointment.

The 1st 2 seasons were A+++ material. Great story lines, cerebral enough, good characters, neatly wound, etc.

After that, progressively worse.

*possible spoiler*

after season 2... so many loose ends, so many decent plot lines and characters that just faded out with little, unsatisfying, or no resolution... not much direction, not so tightly wound... etc.

The whole reason I hung on the last 2 or 3 miserable seasons was just to see how it would end and see the fate of Tony Soprano and the family. Would he get busted? Would he get shot? Who would shoot him? Would they get control of the family? Was all of it just a dream/coma of an ordinary Joe? etc... It was nothing. The show seemed to not have a real direction. It was like the Italian-American organizations scared the writers/producers out of creating any decent story lines.
And to end the show they way they did is a total and absolute cop-out that has zero quality as far as I can see.

Byrnzie · January 2010

Ralphie: Mrs. Marianucci Gualtieiri?
Nucci: Yes?
Ralphie: Hi, this is Detective Mike Hunt, Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania police department. Do you have a son Peter Paul?
Nucci: Oh, my God! What happened?
Ralphie: He's all right, ma'am, but I'm afraid he's in a little trouble. We found him in a public men's room in Lafayette Park. I don't know how to put this delicately: he was sucking a cub scout's dick.
Nucci: What? No, it's a mistake.
Ralphie: Ma'am, I wish that was all, but, uh, we also had to have emergency surgery performed upon arrival at headquarters, after discovery of a small rodent in the rectal passage.
Nucci: OH, MY GOD!

The Champ · January 2010

rrivers wrote:

AllNiteThing wrote:

rrivers wrote:

It is great. I have been watching the whole series this fall, somewhat out of order. I still have season 2 and Season 6 to finish.

I still don't understand how selfish murders makes you proud to be Italian, but to each his own.

You're missing his point, and tangentially, the point of the show.

It's not about the mob or 'selfish murders', it's focus is on the family's that these people have, and their real life day to day activities. They just happen to be in the mob. They are full blooded Italians, and since it's main element is family interaction, it is a slice of Italian Americana life. The poster who is proud to be Italian because of this show is OBVIOUSLY not referring to the mob side of it, but rather the Italian family elements, which this show executes expertly.

This reminds me of when someone tries to compare something to Nazi Germany or a leader to Hitler and some nudnick shoots you down and brings up the Holocaust and how you can't compare. You do realize there was more to Nazi Germany than the Holocaust. There was more to the Sopranos than mob hits.

I forgot you are the expert on all things Sopranos. The characters on the show outside of their mob activities are still nothing to be proud of. You must be referring to the great family interaction of a mother who tries to have her son killed and the son then almost smothering his mother with a pillow. Or maybe the many times Christopher hit Adriana. Or Tony's cheating. Right, I forgot how much there is to look up to there.

Great show with compelling characters, yes. Model of family life? Not so much. Thanks for explaining the point of the show to all us nudnicks.

This is the rational thought......and they don't 'just happen to be in the mob.' Otherwise, there would be no show..

rrivers · January 2010

You're missing his point, and tangentially, the point of the show.

It's not about the mob or 'selfish murders', it's focus is on the family's that these people have, and their real life day to day activities. They just happen to be in the mob. They are full blooded Italians, and since it's main element is family interaction, it is a slice of Italian Americana life. The poster who is proud to be Italian because of this show is OBVIOUSLY not referring to the mob side of it, but rather the Italian family elements, which this show executes expertly.

This reminds me of when someone tries to compare something to Nazi Germany or a leader to Hitler and some nudnick shoots you down and brings up the Holocaust and how you can't compare. You do realize there was more to Nazi Germany than the Holocaust. There was more to the Sopranos than mob hits.[/quote]

I forgot you are the expert on all things Sopranos. The characters on the show outside of their mob activities are still nothing to be proud of. You must be referring to the great family interaction of a mother who tries to have her son killed and the son then almost smothering his mother with a pillow. Or maybe the many times Christopher hit Adriana. Or Tony's cheating. Right, I forgot how much there is to look up to there.

Great show with compelling characters, yes. Model of family life? Not so much. Thanks for explaining the point of the show to all us nudnicks.[/quote]

This is the rational thought......and they don't 'just happen to be in the mob.' Otherwise, there would be no show..[/quote]

Exactly Champ!

Byrnzie · January 2010

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/ ... ion-dramas

The Guardian's top 50 television dramas of all time

1. Sopranos
2. Brideshead Revisited
3. Our Friends in the North
4. Mad Men
5. A Very Peculiar Practice
6. Talking Heads
7. The Singing Detective
8. Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit
9. State of Play
10. Boys From the Blackstuff
11. The West Wing
12. Twin Peaks
13. Queer as Folk
14. The Wire
15. Six Feet Under
16. How Do You Want Me?
17. Smiley's People
18. House of Cards
19. Prime Suspect
20. Bodies......

The Juggler · December 2012

like an old friend home for the holidays....hbo has been showing the sopranos from the beginning every night at 8 on one of their channels.

god i miss this this show.

watched the college episode the other night. so good. the one where tony kills the rat while looking at colleges with meadow.

hope they run the whole series...

xavier mcdaniel · December 2012

Solider? Brendan Fillone. Associate?

Cliffy6745 · August 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfC3YV0_rM

Indifference71 · August 2013

Cliffy6745 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfC3YV0_rM

I've actually gone back and started watching the entire series from the beginning. Almost done with season 2 right now....this show was so good. I know some of the later episodes were a little bit questionable, but the first 2 seasons of this show are some of the best TV out there.

Cliffy6745 · August 2013

Indifference71 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfC3YV0_rM

I've actually gone back and started watching the entire series from the beginning. Almost done with season 2 right now....this show was so good. I know some of the later episodes were a little bit questionable, but the first 2 seasons of this show are some of the best TV out there.

Fucking hilarious.

Yeah, I want to do that. The woman hasn't see it all the way through, so we are planning on doing that, just watching too much right now. Maybe this winter. Vito and the seperation were annoying.

rrivers · August 2013

Indifference71 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfC3YV0_rM

I've actually gone back and started watching the entire series from the beginning. Almost done with season 2 right now....this show was so good. I know some of the later episodes were a little bit questionable, but the first 2 seasons of this show are some of the best TV out there.

I'm doing that too. Just starting season 2. When I watched the last episodes as they aired I thought the quality went down a bit, but watching them again they really stand up.

Indifference71 · August 2013

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Yeah, I want to do that. The woman hasn't see it all the way through, so we are planning on doing that, just watching too much right now. Maybe this winter. Vito and the seperation were annoying.

Yeah definitely do it when you get the chance. The wife didn't want to watch it with me so I've been watching on the ipad on the HBO Go app and on demand sometimes. Crazy that this show started in 1999....funny to see some of the out-dated stuff, but still damn good. What a bunch of beauties in that crew....Paulie fucking cracks me up.

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