Bringing kids to a show

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  • iamloco724
    iamloco724 Brooklyn NY Posts: 1,441
    Caveeze wrote:
    So, just to play devils advocate here..

    Guy fires up a joint during "faithfull"
    Dude sitting behind him says "hey man, can you stop that shit? I got my 12 year old son here"

    Who is in the wrong?

    well technically speaking the guy lightning up since 1.not allowed to smoke in the building and 2.joint specifically is illegal in most places lol
  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Cosmo wrote:
    Caveeze wrote:
    So, just to play devils advocate here..

    Guy fires up a joint during "faithfull"
    Dude sitting behind him says "hey man, can you stop that shit? I got my 12 year old son here"

    Who is in the wrong?
    ...
    I guess it depends... does the guy with the joint have a Weed Card?
    Yes.. or it is in seattle..
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    iamloco724 wrote:
    Caveeze wrote:
    So, just to play devils advocate here..

    Guy fires up a joint during "faithfull"
    Dude sitting behind him says "hey man, can you stop that shit? I got my 12 year old son here"

    Who is in the wrong?

    well technically speaking the guy lightning up since 1.not allowed to smoke in the building and 2.joint specifically is illegal in most places lol
    Both vaild points but, COME ON!!
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  • mookieblalock
    mookieblalock Posts: 3,571
    Caveeze wrote:
    So, just to play devils advocate here..

    Guy fires up a joint during "faithfull"
    Dude sitting behind him says "hey man, can you stop that shit? I got my 12 year old son here"

    Who is in the wrong?


    Both


    1. Dad, even though it is illegal, must EXPECT that to go on at a rock concert

    2. Guy smoking is technically breaking the law.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Caveeze wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Caveeze wrote:
    So, just to play devils advocate here..

    Guy fires up a joint during "faithfull"
    Dude sitting behind him says "hey man, can you stop that shit? I got my 12 year old son here"

    Who is in the wrong?
    ...
    I guess it depends... does the guy with the joint have a Weed Card?
    Yes.. or it is in seattle..
    ...
    The guy has a Weed Card... it is okay for him to buy weed from one of those head shops... it's for medicinal purposes, like he has a hang nail or is suffering from 'totally bummed outedness, man'... he can fire it up.
    ...
    The dude sitting next to him can just take a hit and tell his 12 year old kid, 'Don't tell Mom'.
    ...
    Problem solved. You're welcome.
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    :lol:
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  • simpleman
    simpleman Posts: 425
    Everyone is a fucking genius here, as usual.
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  • Veddernarian
    Veddernarian Posts: 1,924
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    I think the difference is... your son was 12.
    Now... the difference between 6 and 12 doesn't sound like much... when you are a full grown adult. But, remember the difference you were... when you were 6... and when you were 12? First grade vs. Seventh Grade. Light years apart, right?
    I think that 12, 13, 14 age is good because they are becoming more of themselves at that age.

    you are absolutely right about the difference between a six-year-old and a 12-year-old. I'm not sure the six-year-old will actually remember a lot. I'm thinking that if you take a really young kid to a concert, it's not going to mean much for the kid, they will probably get antsy, the bathrooms at these venues are not Ritz-Carlton. There are long lines for the bathroom with a bunch of people screaming all sorts of stuff that you don't want your kid to hear. Then there is the smoke factor mentioned in another post. Logistically, it'll be a lot harder for you to enjoy and the kid, beyond the initial intrigue, will probably give you problems. When I saw this thread, I thought about when I took my son when he was 12 and it was fine. I would not take a kid to a GA section. So the situation would have to be well thought out. For example, the seating in the venue, the facilities, your familiarity with the venue, your kids tolerance, etc. I considered all of those factors before taking my son to San Diego when he was 12. In my case it worked out fine. I had to put myself in my son's shoes knowing what I knew, and I was in Irvine a couple of days prior, and that gave me a good idea of what to expect. The rear floor/inability to see was something that I had not contemplated. Honestly, that was the worst thing that happened to us that day. Relative to that other post where they were at bridge school in the rain, that lady with the infant should have been taken away on grounds of child endangerment. That sounds beyond poor judgment or ignorance.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Veddernarian wrote:
    you are absolutely right about the difference between a six-year-old and a 12-year-old. I'm not sure the six-year-old will actually remember a lot. I'm thinking that if you take a really young kid to a concert, it's not going to mean much for the kid, they will probably get antsy, the bathrooms at these venues are not Ritz-Carlton. There are long lines for the bathroom with a bunch of people screaming all sorts of stuff that you don't want your kid to hear. Then there is the smoke factor mentioned in another post. Logistically, it'll be a lot harder for you to enjoy and the kid, beyond the initial intrigue, will probably give you problems. When I saw this thread, I thought about when I took my son when he was 12 and it was fine. I would not take a kid to a GA section. So the situation would have to be well thought out. For example, the seating in the venue, the facilities, your familiarity with the venue, your kids tolerance, etc. I considered all of those factors before taking my son to San Diego when he was 12. In my case it worked out fine. I had to put myself in my son's shoes knowing what I knew, and I was in Irvine a couple of days prior, and that gave me a good idea of what to expect. The rear floor/inability to see was something that I had not contemplated. Honestly, that was the worst thing that happened to us that day. Relative to that other post where they were at bridge school in the rain, that lady with the infant should have been taken away on grounds of child endangerment. That sounds beyond poor judgment or ignorance.
    ...
    When my nephew was 13 or so... that's the 8th grade, right... I took him to see Green Day/Blink 182 at Irvine. He liked both of those bands and it was, finally, music he liked. My brother usually dragged him to those awful Country shows like Alan Jackson and Shania Twain and The Judds... which might be okay... but, not for a 13 year old kid who like Green Day.
    Anyway, during Green Day's set, Billie Joe said there weren't enough people in the pit and said the people should come down. Well, my nephew looked at me with that, "Please... can I go?' look and I said, 'GO!'. And down the aisle he ran.
    It was a small pit area and most of the people in there were kids. Our seats were in the orchestra, about 10 rows back so i could see him down there. He was fine. He plays tackle football with his friends at the park and had a blast running around and bumping into the other kids down there. It was pretty mild compared to shows like 'Rage' or those punk shows from the 80s.
    After Green Day's set, the venue regained order and kicked out the people without the wristbands, he came up all sweaty and with this giant smile. So, we went out to the merch tables and I got him a Blink shirt and a Green day shirt and a Pop Disaster shirt, so he'd have something dry to wear for Blink's set.
    and yeah, my brother was pissed because both of those bands cuss a lot... i mean, they fucking cuss, A LOT. But, come on... really? A 13 year old already knows all the the cuss words by that age. He may still be a bit confused about what fucking means, but, i'm pretty sure my 13 year old nephew cussed around his 13 year old school chums.
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  • Yes Way
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    Bringing my then 5 year old to Missoula last year was one of the best things I've ever done. He was hot as hell and complained some, but it didn't really matter at all. People were great to him and he remembers the entire trip as being very fun. Not only did he not stop me from enjoying the show, his presence enhanced it.

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  • Mamasan23
    Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    Obviously everyone's got their opinion on this issue. You know your children best, you do what you feel is right :)
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Obviously everyone's got their opinion on this issue. You know your children best, you do what you feel is right :)
    and pray you dont end up in Mamasan's section ;):lol:
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  • Mamasan23
    Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    Caveeze wrote:
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Obviously everyone's got their opinion on this issue. You know your children best, you do what you feel is right :)
    and pray you dont end up in Mamasan's section ;):lol:

    :lol::lol:

    #fact

    I'm not gonna act any different whether I'm surrounded by 50 year olds or 5 year olds. Deal with it! :lol:
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