Pearl Jam: still modern rock?

WhyGo91WhyGo91 Posts: 639
edited August 2013 in The Porch
My local radio station has a 15 minute discussion about music almost every morning in between times that they play music and do the local news. Anyways, the discussions usually have to do with recent albums, band tours, or the impact of certain bands. Well the discussion today was whether bands from the 90's are still considered modern rock or should they start being held as classic rock artists. And that got me thinking about what Pearl Jam is now.

They're over 20 years old, so do you think that they're modern or classic rock?

I still consider them modern.
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  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    are they still writing relevant music or have they resorted to playing local fairs and casinos with a greatest hits set?

    Modern
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  • Caveeze wrote:
    are they still writing relevant music or have they resorted to playing local fairs and casinos with a greatest hits set?

    Modern
    Well Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Neil Young, and Grateful Dead are all considered classic rock yet they aren't doing greatest hit sets and playing casinos. Unless of course we're only talking about bands from the 90s.
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  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Caveeze wrote:
    are they still writing relevant music or have they resorted to playing local fairs and casinos with a greatest hits set?

    Modern
    Well Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Neil Young, and Grateful Dead are all considered classic rock yet they aren't doing greatest hit sets and playing casinos. Unless of course we're only talking about bands from the 90s.
    aside from Neil, what was the latest any of those other (great) bands wrote and released a relevant song?
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  • Caveeze wrote:
    Caveeze wrote:
    are they still writing relevant music or have they resorted to playing local fairs and casinos with a greatest hits set?

    Modern
    Well Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Neil Young, and Grateful Dead are all considered classic rock yet they aren't doing greatest hit sets and playing casinos. Unless of course we're only talking about bands from the 90s.
    aside from Neil, what was the latest any of those other (great) bands wrote and released a relevant song?
    Yeah I could've picked better examples.
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  • jw234911jw234911 annapolis maryland Posts: 255
    Good old rocken roll with a little punk in some songs. they are there own greatness
  • I think those distinctions are really more a matter of radio format. PJ and their contemporaries will forever define that format, but like the great classic rock bands they transcend that distinction and belong in a class of timeless bands. Modern or active rock could be the last successful radio genre... but that format will continue to shift to include more 90s rock.

    As for still writing important music, that's more a testament to how they've gotten along for 20 years.
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  • TN70407TN70407 Posts: 208
    I think we will find out in .......

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  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Personally, I think their longevity is the craziest..

    how many bands of this age (band age) still have all the core members, still tour, still release good music...

    22 years guys!! Pink Floyd din't last that long (as a unit)

    Led Zeppelin didn't

    Rolling stones.. eh. er. kind of.. not the original cast on stage now-a-days though (tragically)

    american bands? I am struggling for one..

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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,815
    Caveeze wrote:
    Personally, I think their longevity is the craziest..

    how many bands of this age (band age) still have all the core members, still tour, still release good music...

    22 years guys!! Pink Floyd din't last that long (as a unit)

    Led Zeppelin didn't

    Rolling stones.. eh. er. kind of.. not the original cast on stage now-a-days though (tragically)

    american bands? I am struggling for one..

    ZZ TOP!! ZZ TOP have been around forever and still have all original members !!

    U2 is the obivous one :) Same lineup with the 70s and they can sell out venues bigger than most other artists. Foo Fighters are probably the closest American band. PJ has about 4-5 years on them. Allthough Technically the Foo Fighters first album is Dave Grohl.. that bands got legs and stamina.

    As for PJ being classic rock. I've heard their earlier works played on classic rock stations now so I think they've been around long enough that their older work is considered classic.

    I guess they could be considered modern rock as well since they still pump out album. Then again Kiss still pumps out albums but I don't consider them modern.

    If I really think hard I think modern rock actually sucks. I consider it to be most rock bands formed after the Foo Fighters..... generic, protools washed, corporate sounding crap. I don't really lump Pearl Jam in with that.
  • AzWickerAzWicker Posts: 1,162
    20 years have passed. Pearl Jam is classic rock! Plus they are begat from classic rock. That is not a bad thing.
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  • thefin190thefin190 Posts: 918
    Our classic rock station here in Seattle does not play Pearl Jam (102.5). They are still modern rock, even though I believe they are straddling the line between modern and classic rock.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,131
    Easy: Classic modern rock. :)
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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    On Sirus /XM PJ is played on 4 stations with various formats.
    PJ radio-Duh
    Octane-Modern Heavy Rock
    Lithium-90s alt
    Sixx Sense- new/classic straight forward rock station

    Octane surprised me a ill ,but PJ,SG,STP,AIC all in resurgence in regular rotation.PJ even ranking amongst the"big unz" list of top songs.This station who is primarily your Five finger Death Punch,Shinedown,Sevendust,In This Moment type of metal/Mod rock appeals to a younger demographic and I think it is opening up PJ to a younger mainstream rock crowd.Old 10clubbers may want to watch out in a Ga pit in the near future some young blood may be moving in.This albumn cycle could bring a new wave /generation of fresh blood.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    A 17 year old rolled of in front of my office 2days ago to drop something off.MYM was pumping out a very loud system in her car.I did the same to Jamie cryin and round and round so I think it's pretty modern.
  • Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    I said they were classic rock back in '93 when people were throwing around "grunge" and "alternative". My opinion was that they were just a "classic" rock band. Guitars, bass, drums and no fucking around.
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  • sparky_frysparky_fry Posts: 760
    It's played on classic rock here, ten and vs anyway.

    I feel the first couple of albums are classic rock but their new stuff is moderns.

    They are not a classic rock band as they are still making new stuff, but their early stuff is over 20 years old so it's hard to argue that it's not classic rock
  • WhyGo91WhyGo91 Posts: 639
    brianlux wrote:
    Easy: Classic modern rock. :)

    This :lol:
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  • ryanjepryanjep Posts: 130
    Caveeze wrote:
    Personally, I think their longevity is the craziest..

    how many bands of this age (band age) still have all the core members, still tour, still release good music...

    22 years guys!! Pink Floyd din't last that long (as a unit)

    Led Zeppelin didn't

    Rolling stones.. eh. er. kind of.. not the original cast on stage now-a-days though (tragically)

    american bands? I am struggling for one..

    ZZ TOP!! ZZ TOP have been around forever and still have all original members !!

    Tom Petty and the HB for an American band?
  • KimmiebyromKimmiebyrom Posts: 1,832
    AzWicker wrote:
    20 years have passed. Pearl Jam is classic rock! Plus they are begat from classic rock. That is not a bad thing.

    The fact that you worked in "begat" in a post is beyond awesome.
    I never see that word used anymore. Good on you for bringing it back!
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,402
    apparently they are $ellouts with gluttonous fans. :lol::lol::lol:
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    I recently saw a billboard with Eddie Money making a duckface advertising a show at a casino I think. I dont know why I'm telling this...
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    ryanjep wrote:
    Caveeze wrote:
    Personally, I think their longevity is the craziest..

    how many bands of this age (band age) still have all the core members, still tour, still release good music...

    22 years guys!! Pink Floyd din't last that long (as a unit)

    Led Zeppelin didn't

    Rolling stones.. eh. er. kind of.. not the original cast on stage now-a-days though (tragically)

    american bands? I am struggling for one..

    ZZ TOP!! ZZ TOP have been around forever and still have all original members !!

    Tom Petty and the HB for an American band?

    Tool
    Aerosmith, granted they've had their ups and downs and ins and outs.


    I think they're verging on classic rock. I think it has as much to do with their sound as it does their longevity. They've always been a classic rock band and I've been hearing Alive and Evenflow on classic rock stations since I started listing to PJ in around 2000.

    I don't take it to mean that they're done making albums either. The Who, Stones, Fogerty, Plant, Aerosmith and countless other artists have continued making albums long after their prime and nobody has ever argued if they're classic rock or not.

    I do agree a bit with the poster above that said, I'm paraphrasing "we'll know in October". I think they're past their prime as a studio act, but maybe they've managed to flame the embers a bit. If it's another effort like Backspacer, it could go a long way toward cementing their status as a heritage act.
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,402
    Tom Petty and the HB for sure. That's a no brainer IMO.
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  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    brianlux wrote:
    Easy: Classic modern rock. :)

    I could go with this since the classic rock era ended in the mid 80's.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I recently saw a billboard with Eddie Money making a duckface advertising a show at a casino I think. I dont know why I'm telling this...
    I know the sign.Turnpike of 95 I forget.Its because other then Sabbath we got no other descent shows until 9 inch nails.ehhhh
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I recently saw a billboard with Eddie Money making a duckface advertising a show at a casino I think. I dont know why I'm telling this...
    I know the sign.Turnpike of 95 I forget.Its because other then Sabbath we got no other descent shows until 9 inch nails.ehhhh
  • dustinparduedustinpardue Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,829
    I think right now they are covering both bases. They are old enough to be classic but still make music. Definitely wouldn't consider them alternative anymore. Alternative nowadays seems like bands seeing how badly recorded they can make their record to be hip. All sounds like recorded in a trash can in Brooklyn, or recorded in a truck stop bathroom in Texas.
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