Something I noticed about the fans

backseatLover12 · August 2013

I've been a fan for a long time, forgot to renew a couple times. But as I've been reading not only these boards, but the PJ Sharing/Swap/Request group on FB, there's one thing that would describe typical fans. GLUTTONOUS. The number of requests alone on the FB group is laughable. Where do all these people think that they're going to get 10c tix for multiple shows? And not only that, but GA, and not only THAT, but they are dead set for getting the rail. (I'm guessing that a lot of people dream...)

Gluttonous
glut·ton·ous (gltn-s)
adj.
1. Given to or marked by gluttony.
2. Indulging in something, such as an activity, to excess; voracious.

Gluttony, derived from the Latin gluttire meaning to gulp down or swallow, means over-indulgence and over-consumption of food, drink, or wealth items to the point of extravagance...is also one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

Now, I've been going to shows for over 20 years now, and experience is everything. Traveling with the Dead was cool for some, but I was lucky to get to a few shows; after all, I was a kid and had no money and didn't want to live the dirty life. But PJ fans? They're similar except for one thing - they have bottomless wallets. ONE show? Ha, I haven't come across one person who is fine going to one show, it has to be 6, 7, 8 of them. And one show per city isn't enough, they have to have more, more, MORE! Not one show in Seattle, but dammit, TWO. Worcester got two, so let's bitch til we get more. Not qualified to enter the 2nd lottery for Worcester? Let's bitch about that. Gluttony, gluttony, GLUTTONY.

I know that I am lucky enough to see two shows this tour, didn't win anything in the lottery, yet I'm grateful for public sale and spouse who happened to win the lottery. "Wow, two shows this tour, Honey? We're styling!" Yet, I hear nothing but spoiled brats cry and moan that 5 shows aren't enough, as well as only one show in their town.

No wonder this place gets bad wraps. It's pathetic.

possomists · August 2013

^ you have any pj wrigley cards to trade? I almost have the full set.

mookieblalock · August 2013

oh boy... :corn:

Shorty · August 2013

There are lots of threads full of bitching and complaining - Agreed - followed closely by the number of threads bitching and complaining about the bitching and complaining.

JB128716 · August 2013

I hate fans that wear jorts.

Jorts: a combination of jeans and shorts. Big in the 1990's.

teeman · August 2013

"bad wraps"...try corn tortillas for your next wrap. They add so much more flavor than the white flour ones. Just remember to heat them up a bit first or else they tend to break apart.

ckravitz · August 2013

Shorty wrote:

There are lots of threads full of bitching and complaining - Agreed - followed closely by the number of threads bitching and complaining about the bitching and complaining.

This. At least occasionally the bitching threads are actually spot on and serve as a means for improvement (a segment here were successful in getting the lottery for example... I don't really like it, but hey, the threads about F5 worked).

Does OP seek improvement on this so called gluttony or is he just looking to call people out?

Leezestarr313 · August 2013

It's tour time and people are tourhorny. Not everybody can afford to travel overseas to see their favourite band, so people are saving for their "tour fund" for the time when they come back within their reach. The GA floor is new to the US, so of course people are keen on getting as close as possible. I don't need to be on the rail to have fun, but man, if it's the big thing for some, let them have it

As for several shows ... I have never done as many shows as I'm going to this year. I am 35 right now, married and with no children. I don't know if I will be able to do this again, my life situation or musical taste might change or whatever. Right now I have the tour bug, and I scrambled up the money to have some fun in the fall. I'm from Germany, but have moved to the midwest last October. I have yet to see a lot of America, and I am excited to explore more places while going to shows

From my experience I can tell you that it is a blast going to back-to-back shows. No show is the same, that's why people are so keen on going to as many as possible. And of course everybody wants to have the best tickets they can get. We have tickets for both Philly shows and made the funds available to also go and see them in Seattle. A second Seattle show would be super cool. But if it doesn't happen, then one is still a dream come true!
No bottomless wallet here. We will have to keep a low profile for the rest of the year, but I know that we're gonna have a fantastic time. And the memories of this special fall will stay with us for the rest of our lives

And in the end, it's not your money and time. Why even bother?

Cheer up and enjoy your shows :wave:

Eraserhead · August 2013

Going to 6, 7 or 8 shows sure beats sitting at a keyboard and bitching about it. Carry on.

Shorty · August 2013

teeman wrote:

"bad wraps"...try corn tortillas for your next wrap. They add so much more flavor than the white flour ones. Just remember to heat them up a bit first or else they tend to break apart.

That was funny as "F"....

Honestly - know what I notice. Great people. I have made a handfull of friends on here that I trust I will keep for life - some I may never even meet in person (even tho I shall try). When we were in London - my wife kept commenting on how nice everyone was - in our hotel (dominated by PJ'ers) - at the preparty - and at the concert. Lovely people.

Understanding - bitchers are in every community. Rarely is the complete population completely satisfied. And a percentage (I'd like to claim it as "small") voice their displeasure.

Stephen Flow · August 2013

Eraserhead wrote:

Going to 6, 7 or 8 shows sure beats sitting at a keyboard and bitching about it. Carry on.

/thread

teeman · August 2013

Shorty wrote:

teeman wrote:

"bad wraps"...try corn tortillas for your next wrap. They add so much more flavor than the white flour ones. Just remember to heat them up a bit first or else they tend to break apart.

That was funny as "F"....

Honestly - know what I notice. Great people. I have made a handfull of friends on here that I trust I will keep for life - some I may never even meet in person (even tho I shall try). When we were in London - my wife kept commenting on how nice everyone was - in our hotel (dominated by PJ'ers) - at the preparty - and at the concert. Lovely people.

Understanding - bitchers are in every community. Rarely is the complete population completely satisfied. And a percentage (I'd like to claim it as "small") voice their displeasure.

Totally agree. There's always going to be a vocal minority of complainers. I've complained myself from time-to-time.

But ultimately, any fan club member I've met in person has been pretty cool and fun to be around. It makes sense, we all have one thing in common!

Bentleyspop · August 2013

JB128716 wrote:

I hate fans that wear jorts.

Jorts: a combination of jeans and shorts. Big in the 1990's.

I'm going to 6 shows and I will not be wearing jorts :fp:
or white sneakers :nono:

PJ_Soul · August 2013

Uhh.... I definitely do not have a lot of money, and neither do most (if any) of the other fans I've met who have traveled to shows. For the most part we scrimp and save and deny ourselves other luxuries (or get into big time debt) to be able to do this kind of thing. Also, I am only going to 1 show this tour, MAYBE 2 if things work out. But most of those who do go to several shows in a tour do not have tons of money either. They save up. So basically. I think you're totally wrong in your perception of what is going on with most PJ fans, and are applying what is true for a tiny minority to a large group. That goes for how much money people have, and how much people complain. There is just a very small but vocal minority that you're allowing to colour your judgement of the whole.

juliefer · August 2013

I save up all my vacation time and money to follow PJ to as many shows as I can. I haven't seen them in 2 years because I wait for them to come to the Westcoast so I can see more shows instead of spending the same amount of money to get to somewhere far away and only see one show. It's not gluttonous, it's priorities.

I wouldn't expect someone outside of the fanbase to understand, but for me, seeing 8 shows over 2 weeks is the best vacation ever. When someone tells me they're going to a resort in Mexico for two weeks, I know they have different priorities than me, but I think that is exactly as gluttonous a vacation plans as mine is, just in a different way. Isn't a vacation supposed to be about living it up?

JB128716 · August 2013

Bentleyspop wrote:

JB128716 wrote:

I hate fans that wear jorts.

Jorts: a combination of jeans and shorts. Big in the 1990's.

I'm going to 6 shows and I will not be wearing jorts :fp:
or white sneakers :nono:

Wait, I've worn white sneakers. What's wrong with white sneakers?

TigaSefi · August 2013

I pass over a lot of things in order to go to these shows. Following them opens up new places to visit and experience.

Come Back in Black · August 2013

Definition of REP.. nown
slang
: reputation; especially : status in a group (as a gang)

jamburger · August 2013

backseatLover12 wrote:

I've been a fan for a long time, forgot to renew a couple times. But as I've been reading not only these boards, but the PJ Sharing/Swap/Request group on FB, there's one thing that would describe typical fans. GLUTTONOUS. The number of requests alone on the FB group is laughable. Where do all these people think that they're going to get 10c tix for multiple shows? And not only that, but GA, and not only THAT, but they are dead set for getting the rail. (I'm guessing that a lot of people dream...)

Gluttonous
glut·ton·ous (gltn-s)
adj.
1. Given to or marked by gluttony.
2. Indulging in something, such as an activity, to excess; voracious.

Gluttony, derived from the Latin gluttire meaning to gulp down or swallow, means over-indulgence and over-consumption of food, drink, or wealth items to the point of extravagance...is also one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

Now, I've been going to shows for over 20 years now, and experience is everything. Traveling with the Dead was cool for some, but I was lucky to get to a few shows; after all, I was a kid and had no money and didn't want to live the dirty life. But PJ fans? They're similar except for one thing - they have bottomless wallets. ONE show? Ha, I haven't come across one person who is fine going to one show, it has to be 6, 7, 8 of them. And one show per city isn't enough, they have to have more, more, MORE! Not one show in Seattle, but dammit, TWO. Worcester got two, so let's bitch til we get more. Not qualified to enter the 2nd lottery for Worcester? Let's bitch about that. Gluttony, gluttony, GLUTTONY.

I know that I am lucky enough to see two shows this tour, didn't win anything in the lottery, yet I'm grateful for public sale and spouse who happened to win the lottery. "Wow, two shows this tour, Honey? We're styling!" Yet, I hear nothing but spoiled brats cry and moan that 5 shows aren't enough, as well as only one show in their town.

No wonder this place gets bad wraps. It's pathetic.

Practice what you preach... find someone with no tickets and sell them one of your shows. Be happy with one.

2-feign-reluctance · August 2013

OP

, c'mon man, you are generalizing a large number of people. That's not in the spirit of the Grateful Dead now is it?

PJ_Soul · August 2013

juliefer wrote:

I save up all my vacation time and money to follow PJ to as many shows as I can. I haven't seen them in 2 years because I wait for them to come to the Westcoast so I can see more shows instead of spending the same amount of money to get to somewhere far away and only see one show. It's not gluttonous, it's priorities.

I wouldn't expect someone outside of the fanbase to understand, but for me, seeing 8 shows over 2 weeks is the best vacation ever. When someone tells me they're going to a resort in Mexico for two weeks, I know they have different priorities than me, but I think that is exactly as gluttonous a vacation plans as mine is, just in a different way. Isn't a vacation supposed to be about living it up?

Agreed. I'd be going to 3 - 5 west coast shows if it weren't for my stupid job.... But thanks to that job I was also able to travel to Missoula and Chicago... It all works out in the end.

mookeywrench · August 2013

I'm going to one show this tour. Only requested 1 show during the fan club sale and got my ticket. Didn't try to go to anymore shows and wasn't even near a computer during the public sale.

That's one less show than you're going to...

I gaurantee the deadheads were just as gluttonous, but they didn't have a public forum for griping at the time.

MayDay10 · August 2013

jamburger wrote:

backseatLover12 wrote:

I've been a fan for a long time, forgot to renew a couple times. But as I've been reading not only these boards, but the PJ Sharing/Swap/Request group on FB, there's one thing that would describe typical fans. GLUTTONOUS. The number of requests alone on the FB group is laughable. Where do all these people think that they're going to get 10c tix for multiple shows? And not only that, but GA, and not only THAT, but they are dead set for getting the rail. (I'm guessing that a lot of people dream...)

Gluttonous
glut·ton·ous (gltn-s)
adj.
1. Given to or marked by gluttony.
2. Indulging in something, such as an activity, to excess; voracious.

Gluttony, derived from the Latin gluttire meaning to gulp down or swallow, means over-indulgence and over-consumption of food, drink, or wealth items to the point of extravagance...is also one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

Now, I've been going to shows for over 20 years now, and experience is everything. Traveling with the Dead was cool for some, but I was lucky to get to a few shows; after all, I was a kid and had no money and didn't want to live the dirty life. But PJ fans? They're similar except for one thing - they have bottomless wallets. ONE show? Ha, I haven't come across one person who is fine going to one show, it has to be 6, 7, 8 of them. And one show per city isn't enough, they have to have more, more, MORE! Not one show in Seattle, but dammit, TWO. Worcester got two, so let's bitch til we get more. Not qualified to enter the 2nd lottery for Worcester? Let's bitch about that. Gluttony, gluttony, GLUTTONY.

I know that I am lucky enough to see two shows this tour, didn't win anything in the lottery, yet I'm grateful for public sale and spouse who happened to win the lottery. "Wow, two shows this tour, Honey? We're styling!" Yet, I hear nothing but spoiled brats cry and moan that 5 shows aren't enough, as well as only one show in their town.

No wonder this place gets bad wraps. It's pathetic.

Practice what you preach... find someone with no tickets and sell them one of your shows. Be happy with one.

Also:

backseatLover12 wrote:

Thinking about emailing 10c about the glitch with Worcester 2. Not to be a jerk, but they're trying to help those who lost (ahem, me). Like Hell, should someone who won other shows be qualified to win, when some of us got completely shut out. :x

backseatLover12 wrote:

Not buying the TV thing happening then. If anything, I'd say they' do SNL on the 26th.

Still holding out for Albany...

for free rumored 10c small NYC show

backseatLover12 wrote:

I hope this is true...

that would make 5.

boyo79 · August 2013

PJ_Soul wrote:

For the most part we scrimp and save and deny ourselves other luxuries (or get into big time debt) to be able to do this kind of thing.

Getting into debt bigtime to see Pearl Jam (or any other band for that matter) and making sure you have all the latest merch is something I'll never understand. Clearly some people on here do that (or there are ALOT of rich Pearl Jam fans!!!)

Like yourself I'll save what I can and go to what shows I can afford. I did 2 shows for last years Euro tour, would love to have done more but I went to what I could afford. I'm happy with that.

DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn · August 2013

This is why we can't have nice things!

backseatLover12 · August 2013

I not only expected, but am loving the insults.

Oh, and to that poster saying that it would be 5 shows? 1. wishing for a 10c NYC show is exactly that: wishful thinking, much like all of yous expecting the rail for all the shows you're going to, 2. wishing for Albany obviously isn't happening, and 3. I'm not entering for a 2nd Worcester show, because I have better things to save my money for.

You people LIVE for a BAND. I was not a dead head, I enjoy all kinds of music and see all kinds of live music. What a waste to devote your lives to one band. And I CAN generalize a whole group - after all, it's all of you spend loads of money on merch, tickets and travel... for one band.

rr165892 · August 2013

Bentleyspop wrote:

JB128716 wrote:

I hate fans that wear jorts.

Jorts: a combination of jeans and shorts. Big in the 1990's.

I'm going to 6 shows and I will not be wearing jorts :fp:
or white sneakers :nono:

Classic Philly fan !!

PJ_Soul · August 2013

boyo79 wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

For the most part we scrimp and save and deny ourselves other luxuries (or get into big time debt) to be able to do this kind of thing.

Getting into debt bigtime to see Pearl Jam (or any other band for that matter) and making sure you have all the latest merch is something I'll never understand. Clearly some people on here do that (or there are ALOT of rich Pearl Jam fans!!!)

Like yourself I'll save what I can and go to what shows I can afford. I did 2 shows for last years Euro tour, would love to have done more but I went to what I could afford. I'm happy with that.

Agreed. It's super irresponsible. But I know it must be happening to a lot of fans. There is no way some of them could afford the trips they do otherwise, and I don't think there are very many rich PJ fans (not that there aren't a small number who are really well off).

jamburger · August 2013

backseatLover12 wrote:

I not only expected, but am loving the insults.

Oh, and to that poster saying that it would be 5 shows? 1. wishing for a 10c NYC show is exactly that: wishful thinking, much like all of yous expecting the rail for all the shows you're going to, 2. wishing for Albany obviously isn't happening, and 3. I'm not entering for a 2nd Worcester show, because I have better things to save my money for.

You people LIVE for a BAND. I was not a dead head, I enjoy all kinds of music and see all kinds of live music. What a waste to devote your lives to one band. Good luck with your gluttony. And I CAN generalize a whole group - after all, it's all of you spend loads of money on merch, tickets and travel... for one band.

So, what's up? Which show can I buy from you?

DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn · August 2013

I put in for worcester 1 lottery and got lucky and won res seats. I will get a single for worcester 2 ANYWHERE in the building. I better hurry before gluttony kills me. I don't want to name call or start stuff but you sir are a Jamoke! Good day!

DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn · August 2013

In before the lock (posted from my computer from my mothers basement.)

Something I noticed about the fans

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