So is Seattle 2 a pipe dream?

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  • Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,432
    So if they don't announce it today, does that mean these tickets would go on public sale a week after the Worcester ones? I actually would love that...
  • YLed2YLed2 Posts: 5,534
    So I take it we can expect an announcement for a second Seattle show next Tuesday?

    Demand for tickets for that second show is going to be through the roof, probably even more so than the first show. Anyhow, I'm already there with 10c tickets for the first show and WILL find a way to score tickets for the second show!
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  • Falcor wrote:
    The "alcohol policy" described on the Key Arena website doesn't say anything about not being able to carry beer to your seats. So hopefully they've changed that policy! I don't want to get drunk, but it sure is nice to have some beer to sip on while rocking out to PJ.

    Agreed! If EV can drink wine straight from the bottle on stage, I better be able to watch, listen and enjoy a beer in my seat!
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,424
    RC153010 wrote:
    Should be people who got shut out of night one as 1 or 2 priority. After that they should be residents ofnwashinton..if they have remaining tickets left it should go buy people who stayed within their states. Meaning, they were not greedy
    Tickets sales based on locale will never ever happen.
    Not sure what the greedy comment means. How is it greedy to travel to a concert?? What about the people from Washington who are also going to Portland and Vancouver btw? How do they fit into your plan? And what about people who have mailboxes in Washington? A ton of people from BC do so that they can order from Amazon.com and then go to Blaine or Point Roberts and pick it up to save on international shipping.... Just a couple of the reasons why basing ticket sales on address doesn't work, aside from the fact that it's needlessly discriminatory against those who live in areas where PJ never goes.
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  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    riotgrl wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:


    :o:o:o That is bad news for me!!! Not fair for those who were not available for the first night, but are available for the second. :cry:


    Bad news for me too. Argh, this sux! Guess I'll have to line up a couple of people to help me man the computers so I can get tix through TM
    Yeah, good luck! We'll get in; where there's a will there's a way.
    But I do think this rule is a little strange. It makes total sense to prevent those who already have tix for the first night from entering, but I don't understand only allowing those who entered for the first night and didn't win to get in the second draw. Just making it so that those members who don't have tix for the first night can enter makes better sense to me... Just not quite sure what 10C's thinking is on this one. Oh well........ Fucking awesome for those who lost the first draw obviously. Their chances are super high.

    I guess I would be 'ok' with this rule if I wasn't traveling with my husband. Trying to score someone's extra 10C ticket is one thing but trying to find 2 is hard. And then, forget sitting together :( Like you said before #PearlJamProblems :o

    And I would totally be ok with being a later priority to make sure that people that did enter the first round and lost out got first dibs on tickets. But totally locking me out because I couldn't go on Friday sucks balls!
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • RC153010RC153010 Posts: 864
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    RC153010 wrote:
    Should be people who got shut out of night one as 1 or 2 priority. After that they should be residents ofnwashinton..if they have remaining tickets left it should go buy people who stayed within their states. Meaning, they were not greedy
    Tickets sales based on locale will never ever happen.
    Not sure what the greedy comment means. How is it greedy to travel to a concert?? What about the people from Washington who are also going to Portland and Vancouver btw? How do they fit into your plan? And what about people who have mailboxes in Washington? A ton of people from BC do so that they can order from Amazon.com and then go to Blaine or Point Roberts and pick it up to save on international shipping.... Just a couple of the reasons why basing ticket sales on address doesn't work, aside from the fact that it's needlessly discriminatory against those who live in areas where PJ never goes.
    Putting in for 8 shows. That's just ridiculous.
  • EddieredderEddieredder Posts: 753
    Falcor wrote:
    The "alcohol policy" described on the Key Arena website doesn't say anything about not being able to carry beer to your seats. So hopefully they've changed that policy! I don't want to get drunk, but it sure is nice to have some beer to sip on while rocking out to PJ.

    Agreed! If EV can drink wine straight from the bottle on stage, I better be able to watch, listen and enjoy a beer in my seat!

    The alcohol policy is the result of King County having some of the most strict and ridiculous alcohol policies in the entire country. Not only do we get taxed higher than almost anywhere........they restrict where you can and cant drink based on how they feel/enforecement.

    But come on now......if you are a PJ fan........ chances are you are of age and 21+.

    You could drink in your seats at Sonics games. Concerts......generally only on the concourse/bar/or suites.

    PS: Key Arena sucks. It would be awesome if they did two smaller shows at the Paramount.
  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Falcor wrote:
    The "alcohol policy" described on the Key Arena website doesn't say anything about not being able to carry beer to your seats. So hopefully they've changed that policy! I don't want to get drunk, but it sure is nice to have some beer to sip on while rocking out to PJ.

    Agreed! If EV can drink wine straight from the bottle on stage, I better be able to watch, listen and enjoy a beer in my seat!

    The alcohol policy is the result of King County having some of the most strict and ridiculous alcohol policies in the entire country. Not only do we get taxed higher than almost anywhere........they restrict where you can and cant drink based on how they feel/enforecement.

    But come on now......if you are a PJ fan........ chances are you are of age and 21+.

    You could drink in your seats at Sonics games. Concerts......generally only on the concourse/bar/or suites.

    PS: Key Arena sucks. It would be awesome if they did two smaller shows at the Paramount.

    What ?!?! I thought living in KY we were the only ones with crazy alcohol laws :fp:
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • RC153010RC153010 Posts: 864
    Problem solved for me, no booze f that. Last time for riot act tour they were not selling booze either. Therefore, I will pass
  • EddieredderEddieredder Posts: 753
    It would suck if they had the same policy as the Worchester show......but I cant complain. I feel lucky to have gotten what I did.

    But I agree. It would have changed the strategy a bit in terms of priority.

    Two smaller shows at the Paramount!!! FC only. Do it!!!!
  • EddieredderEddieredder Posts: 753
    RC153010 wrote:
    Problem solved for me, no booze f that. Last time for riot act tour they were not selling booze either. Therefore, I will pass

    They have booze. You just cant drink it at your seat.
  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    As you couldn't win back to back shows for any other city, not allowing winners to enter for Worcester 2 is perfectly fair. Not allowing those who didn't enter at all a chance sucks for those who couldn't make the other date but can make this one, but giving people a chance who wanted to go to the show but got shut out is a good idea too. Especially for Seattle, where so many fans didn't get night 1 tickets.

    I just wish they would announce it already...
  • smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    Kathi wrote:
    As you couldn't win back to back shows for any other city, not allowing winners to enter for Worcester 2 is perfectly fair. Not allowing those who didn't enter at all a chance sucks for those who couldn't make the other date but can make this one, but giving people a chance who wanted to go to the show but got shut out is a good idea too. Especially for Seattle, where so many fans didn't get night 1 tickets.

    I just wish they would announce it already...

    +1!

    I don't know why, but it feels so many people want this show, the first is completely sold out.. I really feel this will happen.

    Perfect way to cap off the tour, bringing all your fans to your home town (which I have visited 5 times since 2008 and love it there) and two great nights of pearl jam under the space needle :)

    Hope for the announcement soon. I asked earlier, but, why was Boston 2 added "due to popular demand" but Seattle and Brooklyn were the first to sell out, and very quickly. Boston 1 isn't even sold out!

    If the demand is that high in Boston, you know it is in Seattle too!

    You think they would delay the announcement in order to sell more tickets to other shows? Ie- Portland, Spokane, Vancouver etc?
  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,340
    Bump for a second Seattle show!
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,904
    Only a matter of time until it is announced, maybe next week when the Worcester lottery is over
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • Given2FlyGiven2Fly Seattle Posts: 169
    RC153010 wrote:
    Should be people who got shut out of night one as 1 or 2 priority. After that they should be residents ofnwashinton..if they have remaining tickets left it should go buy people who stayed within their states. Meaning, they were not greedy

    Nice! Glad to see I'm not the only selfish bastard who thinks this. Thank you for making me feel better about myself!
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 95,873
    Bump for a second Seattle show!
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,834
    Given2Fly wrote:
    RC153010 wrote:
    Should be people who got shut out of night one as 1 or 2 priority. After that they should be residents ofnwashinton..if they have remaining tickets left it should go buy people who stayed within their states. Meaning, they were not greedy

    Nice! Glad to see I'm not the only selfish bastard who thinks this. Thank you for making me feel better about myself!

    I don't think they'd check residency. It's never something they've done before. With the tours only covering so many places you get imports, but most of all the software probably isn't designed to take location into consideration....

    It would be cool if they could figure out how to honor the preferences people originally chosen for seattle 1 (so people who had it as 8th or 9th pref, don't knock out people who missed on 1st second). Judging by how the 2nd Worchester show is handled, I somewhat doubt they have the ability to do that..... so limited it to people who expressed interest in night 1 isn't too shabby.
  • brio33800brio33800 Posts: 77
    Come on bring on theb2nd show. Do u think they could add a 3rd one if the second one sells out in seconds?
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,834
    brio33800 wrote:
    Come on bring on theb2nd show. Do u think they could add a 3rd one if the second one sells out in seconds?

    Based in history, it's unlikely? They've never done a 3rd Seattle Show before.
  • Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,432
    I don't like the residency stuff either. I have an international membership, but I'm living in the States now. In an area where they don't play a show. I always had to travel to see them. So I shouldn't have dibs on tickets?
  • NormanNorman Posts: 112
    I don't like the residency stuff either. I have an international membership, but I'm living in the States now. In an area where they don't play a show. I always had to travel to see them. So I shouldn't have dibs on tickets?
    I agree, I live in Seattle, went to Wrigley, then got shut out of Seattle. Big fucking deal. Although I'm really hoping for Seattle 2. The funny thing is of the 20 shows I've seen, Seattle shows would be on the bottom of the list. Good shows but crowds lacked energy. And that was before we legalized god's medicine. Hopefully with all the out of towers the crowd has more energy. Also for all those coming from afar, check out Ballard, Freemont, capitol hill and other areas just outside downtown.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,424
    Norman wrote:
    I don't like the residency stuff either. I have an international membership, but I'm living in the States now. In an area where they don't play a show. I always had to travel to see them. So I shouldn't have dibs on tickets?
    I agree, I live in Seattle, went to Wrigley, then got shut out of Seattle. Big fucking deal. Although I'm really hoping for Seattle 2. The funny thing is of the 20 shows I've seen, Seattle shows would be on the bottom of the list. Good shows but crowds lacked energy. And that was before we legalized god's medicine. Hopefully with all the out of towers the crowd has more energy. Also for all those coming from afar, check out Ballard, Freemont, capitol hill and other areas just outside downtown.
    It's the Pacific chill. I don't know what it is, but the Northwest (including Vancouver) is pretty subdued. There have been exceptions in Vancouver as far as the crowd goes, i.e. at Judas Priest and KISS and, surprisingly, The Killers... But more often than not, crowds in the region do tend to lack energy. I really don't know why this is. I grew up here, and I'm not like that, so have no clue what the cause is. I just keep hoping that it will get better as time goes on... It got worse. Wasn't really an issue until probably the 2000s. So if it can come, it surely can go too. :) Anyway, I doubt the Seattle PJ show will be like that because of the GA and a lot of members are coming in for it. Same with Vancouver, hopefully.
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  • NormanNorman Posts: 112
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Norman wrote:
    I don't like the residency stuff either. I have an international membership, but I'm living in the States now. In an area where they don't play a show. I always had to travel to see them. So I shouldn't have dibs on tickets?
    I agree, I live in Seattle, went to Wrigley, then got shut out of Seattle. Big fucking deal. Although I'm really hoping for Seattle 2. The funny thing is of the 20 shows I've seen, Seattle shows would be on the bottom of the list. Good shows but crowds lacked energy. And that was before we legalized god's medicine. Hopefully with all the out of towers the crowd has more energy. Also for all those coming from afar, check out Ballard, Freemont, capitol hill and other areas just outside downtown.
    It's the Pacific chill. I don't know what it is, but the Northwest (including Vancouver) is pretty subdued. There have been exceptions in Vancouver as far as the crowd goes, i.e. at Judas Priest and KISS and, surprisingly, The Killers... But more often than not, crowds in the region do tend to lack energy. I really don't know why this is. I grew up here, and I'm not like that, so have no clue what the cause is. I just keep hoping that it will get better as time goes on... It got worse. Wasn't really an issue until probably the 2000s. So if it can come, it surely can go too. :) Anyway, I doubt the Seattle PJ show will be like that because of the GA and a lot of members are coming in for it. Same with Vancouver, hopefully.
    You make some really good points. It does seem putting seating on the floor mellowed the concerts a bit. I regret not being able to make the Vancouver show, Love that city. See you guys at Seattle 2(fingers crossed).
  • PJ_Soul wrote:
    Norman wrote:
    I don't like the residency stuff either. I have an international membership, but I'm living in the States now. In an area where they don't play a show. I always had to travel to see them. So I shouldn't have dibs on tickets?
    I agree, I live in Seattle, went to Wrigley, then got shut out of Seattle. Big fucking deal. Although I'm really hoping for Seattle 2. The funny thing is of the 20 shows I've seen, Seattle shows would be on the bottom of the list. Good shows but crowds lacked energy. And that was before we legalized god's medicine. Hopefully with all the out of towers the crowd has more energy. Also for all those coming from afar, check out Ballard, Freemont, capitol hill and other areas just outside downtown.
    It's the Pacific chill. I don't know what it is, but the Northwest (including Vancouver) is pretty subdued. There have been exceptions in Vancouver as far as the crowd goes, i.e. at Judas Priest and KISS and, surprisingly, The Killers... But more often than not, crowds in the region do tend to lack energy. I really don't know why this is. I grew up here, and I'm not like that, so have no clue what the cause is. I just keep hoping that it will get better as time goes on... It got worse. Wasn't really an issue until probably the 2000s. So if it can come, it surely can go too. :) Anyway, I doubt the Seattle PJ show will be like that because of the GA and a lot of members are coming in for it. Same with Vancouver, hopefully.

    what i find funny is that if i go to a string of shows that include seattle or van plus other areas, it is a lot of the same people...but then i hear that seattle crowds aren't as "into" the show? but in calgary, those same people rock :? (talking sepcifically about the fan club area). i guess i'm just sensitive, like when eddie "yelled" at the first few rows during olé at the last vancouver show...i was jumping as high as i could! honest! :D
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 6,005
    what i find funny is that if i go to a string of shows that include seattle or van plus other areas, it is a lot of the same people...but then i hear that seattle crowds aren't as "into" the show? but in calgary, those same people rock :? (talking sepcifically about the fan club area). i guess i'm just sensitive, like when eddie "yelled" at the first few rows during olé at the last vancouver show...i was jumping as high as i could! honest! :D

    I too notice that everyone calls the Seattle shows subdued and blames it on the Seattlites....however, these shows usually hold the most out-of-towners and travelers out of the whole tour.
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  • morgie2morgie2 Posts: 1,065
    In 2009, I went to both Seattle shows. I absolutely loved them, but they were VERY "subdued". When the band went to Vancouver ( didn't attend), the crowd was totally different...so much so Eddie remarked, in not so kidding a fashion, about the difference. I could see the second Seattle show situation go either way...good luck though!! I can't recommend enough going to Seattle. Easy Street Records in West Seattle, Space Needle, Duck tour, etc. Just a great time.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 95,873
    morgie2 wrote:
    Easy Street Records in West Seattle, Space Needle, Duck tour, etc.

    Duck tour? What's this you speak of?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,424
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Norman wrote:
    I agree, I live in Seattle, went to Wrigley, then got shut out of Seattle. Big fucking deal. Although I'm really hoping for Seattle 2. The funny thing is of the 20 shows I've seen, Seattle shows would be on the bottom of the list. Good shows but crowds lacked energy. And that was before we legalized god's medicine. Hopefully with all the out of towers the crowd has more energy. Also for all those coming from afar, check out Ballard, Freemont, capitol hill and other areas just outside downtown.
    It's the Pacific chill. I don't know what it is, but the Northwest (including Vancouver) is pretty subdued. There have been exceptions in Vancouver as far as the crowd goes, i.e. at Judas Priest and KISS and, surprisingly, The Killers... But more often than not, crowds in the region do tend to lack energy. I really don't know why this is. I grew up here, and I'm not like that, so have no clue what the cause is. I just keep hoping that it will get better as time goes on... It got worse. Wasn't really an issue until probably the 2000s. So if it can come, it surely can go too. :) Anyway, I doubt the Seattle PJ show will be like that because of the GA and a lot of members are coming in for it. Same with Vancouver, hopefully.

    what i find funny is that if i go to a string of shows that include seattle or van plus other areas, it is a lot of the same people...but then i hear that seattle crowds aren't as "into" the show? but in calgary, those same people rock :? (talking sepcifically about the fan club area). i guess i'm just sensitive, like when eddie "yelled" at the first few rows during olé at the last vancouver show...i was jumping as high as i could! honest! :D

    :lol: Oh god, that little incident was mortifying for me as a local and I wasn't even at the show. :fp: :lol:

    Maybe everyone is just too high?? I personally don't get high at shows usually BECAUSE it mellows me out too much, and I don't want to be mellow at a rock concert... Judging from all the smoke at shows, that just may be the issue!
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,424
    demetrios wrote:
    morgie2 wrote:
    Easy Street Records in West Seattle, Space Needle, Duck tour, etc.

    Duck tour? What's this you speak of?
    It's a lot of fun. An amphibian boat/tour bus takes you on a tour, and it's a blast. They make it funny.
    Also, the Underground tour is awesome.
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