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peacefrompaul wrote:When do the riots start?
Sorry but there will NO RIOTS!
I knew ALL along he would be found not guilty....just wasn't enough evidence for him to be found NG beyond a reasonable doubt besides we are speaking of the state I live in FLORIDA.
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Guitar92player wrote:I thought George Zimmerman would at least get a manslaughter charge, but ultimately not surprised he is not guilty.
Why am I not surprised?
1. Not enough evidence to convict him,
2. It's Florida, the state where Casey Anthony was not guilty for the same reason.
I agree. But I'm still very sad about this. My husband said, "Hey, George Zimmerman gets to carry a gun again." Wow, that makes me feel safe.0 -
Not only does he get to carry a gun he gets to carry the same gun he murderd someone withEnkidu wrote:Guitar92player wrote:I thought George Zimmerman would at least get a manslaughter charge, but ultimately not surprised he is not guilty.
Why am I not surprised?
1. Not enough evidence to convict him,
2. It's Florida, the state where Casey Anthony was not guilty for the same reason.
I agree. But I'm still very sad about this. My husband said, "Hey, George Zimmerman gets to carry a gun again." Wow, that makes me feel safe.
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ComeToTX wrote:Guitar92player wrote:I thought George Zimmerman would at least get a manslaughter charge, but ultimately not surprised he is not guilty.
Why am I not surprised?
1. Not enough evidence to convict him,
2. It's Florida, the state where Casey Anthony was not guilty for the same reason.
Agree. They didn't have enough to convict him and maybe under current laws he isn't guilty. He is however a profiling asshole that should have taken the assbeating he deserved instead of killing a kid.
I agree as well.Enkidu wrote:Guitar92player wrote:I thought George Zimmerman would at least get a manslaughter charge, but ultimately not surprised he is not guilty.
Why am I not surprised?
1. Not enough evidence to convict him,
2. It's Florida, the state where Casey Anthony was not guilty for the same reason.
I agree. But I'm still very sad about this. My husband said, "Hey, George Zimmerman gets to carry a gun again." Wow, that makes me feel safe.
I wonder if he will actually continue his neighborhood watch stuff.~Carter~
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another reason to not live in Florida.
It is now legal to stalk unarmed people, kill them and call it self defence0 -
satansbed wrote:
Not only does he get to carry a gun he gets to carry the same gun he murderd someone withEnkidu wrote:Guitar92player wrote:I thought George Zimmerman would at least get a manslaughter charge, but ultimately not surprised he is not guilty.
Why am I not surprised?
1. Not enough evidence to convict him,
2. It's Florida, the state where Casey Anthony was not guilty for the same reason.
I agree. But I'm still very sad about this. My husband said, "Hey, George Zimmerman gets to carry a gun again." Wow, that makes me feel safe.
Merica fuck ya
Makes me sick
So sad... I feel very fortunate to have been born white...
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g under p wrote:peacefrompaul wrote:When do the riots start?
Sorry but there will NO RIOTS!
I knew ALL along he would be found not guilty....just wasn't enough evidence for him to be found NG beyond a reasonable doubt besides we are speaking of the state I live in FLORIDA.
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Enkidu wrote:Guitar92player wrote:I thought George Zimmerman would at least get a manslaughter charge, but ultimately not surprised he is not guilty.
Why am I not surprised?
1. Not enough evidence to convict him,
2. It's Florida, the state where Casey Anthony was not guilty for the same reason.
I agree. But I'm still very sad about this. My husband said, "Hey, George Zimmerman gets to carry a gun again." Wow, that makes me feel safe.
And this is the direction we're heading. :x
At least we can move out of Florida, if one chooses, but this quote above just verifies the savage that lives and gets away with murder.0 -
Why is everyone so upset? He was acqitted of the charges (forcibly) brought to him by the prosecution. There was no evidence that supports anything but self defense.
A tragedy did happen. A young man was shot dead. Many things could've happened to prevent this.
1) Zimmerman could have not left his truck
2) Martin didn't have to confront Zimmerman.
Just to name 2.
Please stop naming this a race case. Its simply a self defense case.0 -
It may have been self defence if he stayed in his car as the cops told him to,Last-12-Exit wrote:Why is everyone so upset? He was acqitted of the charges (forcibly) brought to him by the prosecution. There was no evidence that supports anything but self defense.
A tragedy did happen. A young man was shot dead. Many things could've happened to prevent this.
1) Zimmerman could have not left his truck
2) Martin didn't have to confront Zimmerman.
Just to name 2.
Please stop naming this a race case. Its simply a self defense case.
He didn't
He murdered a 17 year old instead
And walked free
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Oj was acquitted so court has no credence. This pos stalked someone and consequently shot him. Merika is fked. Justifying this is sick.Last-12-Exit wrote:Why is everyone so upset? He was acqitted of the charges (forcibly) brought to him by the prosecution. There was no evidence that supports anything but self defense.
A tragedy did happen. A young man was shot dead. Many things could've happened to prevent this.
1) Zimmerman could have not left his truck
2) Martin didn't have to confront Zimmerman.
Just to name 2.
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It may have been self defence if he stayed in his car as the cops told him to,Last-12-Exit wrote:Why is everyone so upset? He was acqitted of the charges (forcibly) brought to him by the prosecution. There was no evidence that supports anything but self defense.
A tragedy did happen. A young man was shot dead. Many things could've happened to prevent this.
1) Zimmerman could have not left his truck
2) Martin didn't have to confront Zimmerman.
Just to name 2.
Please stop naming this a race case. Its simply a self defense case.
He didn't
He murdered a 17 year old instead
And walked free
Disgusted
Agree. 100%.0 -
Last-12-Exit wrote:Why is everyone so upset? He was acqitted of the charges (forcibly) brought to him by the prosecution. There was no evidence that supports anything but self defense.
A tragedy did happen. A young man was shot dead. Many things could've happened to prevent this.
1) Zimmerman could have not left his truck
2) Martin didn't have to confront Zimmerman.
Just to name 2.
Please stop naming this a race case. Its simply a self defense case.
This. Race issues aside, this one case should not confirm or invalidate any previously held beliefs on guns or self-defense (this case has been a proxy war for those two issues).
And while I think there are definitely questions about whether this was self-defense, the fact remains that the only other person who could tell us what happened...is dead. That was an insurmountable burden, one the State couldn't meet.
Like it or not, this is our system. Charges were leveled, a verdict was reached. The system performed its function.
I agree with the sentiment here. Criminality aside, the fact remains that George Zimmerman, while having a right to bear arms and not convicted of any crimes, may grapple with the question "was it worth it to carry a gun and follow this kid that night?" for the rest of his life. Was it worth to end someone's life and effectively his own?
Do I believe that Zimmerman would be dead if he hadn't killed Martin? Not for a second. But as it stands, he was acquitted by a jury and we should respect the decision, if only because in doing so it reaffirms the process. For those disappointed in the outcome, that can be your silver lining.1998-06-30 Minneapolis
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This proves humans can't handle guns.
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vant0037 wrote:Last-12-Exit wrote:Why is everyone so upset? He was acqitted of the charges (forcibly) brought to him by the prosecution. There was no evidence that supports anything but self defense.
A tragedy did happen. A young man was shot dead. Many things could've happened to prevent this.
1) Zimmerman could have not left his truck
2) Martin didn't have to confront Zimmerman.
Just to name 2.
Please stop naming this a race case. Its simply a self defense case.
This. Race issues aside, this one case should not confirm or invalidate any previously held beliefs on guns or self-defense (this case has been a proxy war for those two issues).
And while I think there are definitely questions about whether this was self-defense, the fact remains that the only other person who could tell us what happened...is dead. That was an insurmountable burden, one the State couldn't meet.
Like it or not, this is our system. Charges were leveled, a verdict was reached. The system performed its function.
I agree with the sentiment here. Criminality aside, the fact remains that George Zimmerman, while having a right to bear arms and not convicted of any crimes, may grapple with the question "was it worth it to carry a gun and follow this kid that night?" for the rest of his life. Was it worth to end someone's life and effectively his own?
Do I believe that Zimmerman would be dead if he hadn't killed Martin? Not for a second. But as it stands, he was acquitted by a jury and we should respect the decision, if only because in doing so it reaffirms the process. For those disappointed in the outcome, that can be your silver lining.
haha. respect the process. reaffirm the process. silver lining. Wow. What a joke. You followed the american justice system the last, oh 200 years? You are only fooling yourself. Louima, King, Tim Thomas, Diallo. Gee, I wonder what the process is. Id never serve on a jury in my life if called up. Because id tell them straight up when they interviewed me "I dont believe in the system, its corrupt, racist and classist, and Ive given money to Mumia, Peltier and the WM3".0 -
vant0037 wrote:Last-12-Exit wrote:Why is everyone so upset? He was acqitted of the charges (forcibly) brought to him by the prosecution. There was no evidence that supports anything but self defense.
A tragedy did happen. A young man was shot dead. Many things could've happened to prevent this.
1) Zimmerman could have not left his truck
2) Martin didn't have to confront Zimmerman.
Just to name 2.
Please stop naming this a race case. Its simply a self defense case.
This. Race issues aside, this one case should not confirm or invalidate any previously held beliefs on guns or self-defense (this case has been a proxy war for those two issues).
And while I think there are definitely questions about whether this was self-defense, the fact remains that the only other person who could tell us what happened...is dead. That was an insurmountable burden, one the State couldn't meet.
Like it or not, this is our system. Charges were leveled, a verdict was reached. The system performed its function.
I agree with the sentiment here. Criminality aside, the fact remains that George Zimmerman, while having a right to bear arms and not convicted of any crimes, may grapple with the question "was it worth it to carry a gun and follow this kid that night?" for the rest of his life. Was it worth to end someone's life and effectively his own?
Do I believe that Zimmerman would be dead if he hadn't killed Martin? Not for a second. But as it stands, he was acquitted by a jury and we should respect the decision, if only because in doing so it reaffirms the process. For those disappointed in the outcome, that can be your silver lining.
A very good and articulate post, but you both you and Last-12-Exit are asking everyone to do one seemingly simple thing - PUT RACE ASIDE.
And therein lies the problem.
People can't or won't - that very word is driving this whole story. If it's not, then Google "Joshua Heath Chellew" and tell me why THAT story hasn't made so much as a blip on the radar of the national news media.
It's very unfortunate when anyone loses their life in this manner, particularly a young person with their whole life ahead of them, but there are young black men shooting each other on an almost daily basis in the inner cities of America over drugs and money, and overseas, young men in third world countries killing each other over land and religion - yet here's the media sensationalizing a tragedy of this particular nature and whipping everybody into a frenzy over racism and gun control yet again. I didn't follow the case that closely to begin with, so I really don't have an educated opinion of the verdict, but even if George Zimmerman did kill Trayvon Martin out of malicious intent, what scares me more than one guilty person walking free, is that a community of people may use this outcome to riot and defend hateful attitudes and behavior, while others will attempt to use it as a platform to give politicians unconstitutional authority over this country's citizens.Osaka, Japan (2/21/95), San Diego (7/10/98), Las Vegas (10/22/00), San Diego (10/25/00), Las Vegas (6/6/03), Las Vegas (7/6/06), Los Angeles (7/9/06), VH1 Rock Honors (7/12/08), Ed Solo (7/8/11), Ed Solo (11/1/12), Los Angeles (11/23/13)0 -
musicismylife78 wrote:vant0037 wrote:Last-12-Exit wrote:Why is everyone so upset? He was acqitted of the charges (forcibly) brought to him by the prosecution. There was no evidence that supports anything but self defense.
A tragedy did happen. A young man was shot dead. Many things could've happened to prevent this.
1) Zimmerman could have not left his truck
2) Martin didn't have to confront Zimmerman.
Just to name 2.
Please stop naming this a race case. Its simply a self defense case.
This. Race issues aside, this one case should not confirm or invalidate any previously held beliefs on guns or self-defense (this case has been a proxy war for those two issues).
And while I think there are definitely questions about whether this was self-defense, the fact remains that the only other person who could tell us what happened...is dead. That was an insurmountable burden, one the State couldn't meet.
Like it or not, this is our system. Charges were leveled, a verdict was reached. The system performed its function.
I agree with the sentiment here. Criminality aside, the fact remains that George Zimmerman, while having a right to bear arms and not convicted of any crimes, may grapple with the question "was it worth it to carry a gun and follow this kid that night?" for the rest of his life. Was it worth to end someone's life and effectively his own?
Do I believe that Zimmerman would be dead if he hadn't killed Martin? Not for a second. But as it stands, he was acquitted by a jury and we should respect the decision, if only because in doing so it reaffirms the process. For those disappointed in the outcome, that can be your silver lining.
haha. respect the process. reaffirm the process. silver lining. Wow. What a joke. You followed the american justice system the last, oh 200 years? You are only fooling yourself. Louima, King, Tim Thomas, Diallo. Gee, I wonder what the process is. Id never serve on a jury in my life if called up. Because id tell them straight up when they interviewed me "I dont believe in the system, its corrupt, racist and classist, and Ive given money to Mumia, Peltier and the WM3".
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I wonder how much it will cost Zimmerman for the lifetime security?
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mickeyrat wrote:I wonder how much it will cost Zimmerman for the lifetime security?
Frankly, I see a dead man walking. Someone will contrive a circumstance that puts him in Trayvons position.
i agree mr
he had better watch his back
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