Obama care, What do you think of this ?

Godfather.
Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited July 2013 in A Moving Train
States are starting to roll out details about the exchanges, providing a look at just how affordable coverage under the Affordable Care Act will be. Some potential participants may be surprised at the figures: $2,000 deductibles, $45 primary care visit co-pays, and $250 emergency room tabs.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/13/news/ec ... &hpt=hp_t2


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  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    The people who can't afford any of the tiers can get subsidized. Where's your issue?
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  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    i say Michelle O 2016.......Continue Forward.......
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,892
    why are states reporting that obamacare is going to work better than first thought?
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,614
    I think that once Obamacare becomes fully entrenched and enacted it will become popular. Further, I think 10-15 years from now Republicans will regret their decision to name it after a Democratic President. Imagine if to slander the Civil Rights Act they had referred to it as Johnson Freedom. I imagine they would have come to regret that.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,892
    JimmyV wrote:
    I think that once Obamacare becomes fully entrenched and enacted it will become popular. Further, I think 10-15 years from now Republicans will regret their decision to name it after a Democratic President. Imagine if to slander the Civil Rights Act they had referred to it as Johnson Freedom. I imagine they would have come to regret that.
    i agree.
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  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    ...did cheif justice roberts vote on behalf of obamacare - due to emails gathered from nsa program.

    maybe...or not.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I hate the term Obamacare. It really should be Obamasurance.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,892
    know1 wrote:
    I hate the term Obamacare. It really should be Obamasurance.
    obamasurance sounds less disparaging than obamacare.

    remember, they did the same thing with hillarycare to disparage hillary.

    the gop and those that frame their talking points are masters of language.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,397
    know1 wrote:
    I hate the term Obamacare. It really should be Obamasurance.
    It should be called US Government Mandatory Insurance Program.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    law21 wrote:
    i say Michelle O 2016.......Continue Forward.......
    I've seen this around the forum before, though not sure if from you (or if intended with sincerity or sarcasm) - assuming the former, really and why? Qualifications?

    As to the issue itself, the deductible shown is way higher than I currently pay. The ER fee shown is way lower than we've EVER paid. Co-pay shown is a bit higher.

    BinFrog, I'm cool with contributing some to make up for those who can't afford it...but what happens when said contributions fuck with my ability to pay for our own care, and now I need help?
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,397
    law21 wrote:
    i say Michelle O 2016.......Continue Forward.......

    This guy is better qualified.

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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I hate the term Obamacare. It really should be Obamasurance.
    obamasurance sounds less disparaging than obamacare.

    remember, they did the same thing with hillarycare to disparage hillary.

    the gop and those that frame their talking points are masters of language.


    This is absolutely true. Same folks called it Romneycare when they hated him for doing it...I would wear it as a badge of honor if I were the president, and i would quit calling it Obamacare if I were the republicans and start talking about the actual merits of the bill and what they want defunded....I am fairly confident most people in congress who are for or against it vehemently still don't know what is in it and how it will help and how it may hurt.
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Godfather. wrote:
    States are starting to roll out details about the exchanges, providing a look at just how affordable coverage under the Affordable Care Act will be. Some potential participants may be surprised at the figures: $2,000 deductibles, $45 primary care visit co-pays, and $250 emergency room tabs.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/13/news/ec ... &hpt=hp_t2


    Godfather.
    I would be happy if my current health insurance only had a deductible of $2000.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,892
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    This is absolutely true. Same folks called it Romneycare when they hated him for doing it...I would wear it as a badge of honor if I were the president, and i would quit calling it Obamacare if I were the republicans and start talking about the actual merits of the bill and what they want defunded....I am fairly confident most people in congress who are for or against it vehemently still don't know what is in it and how it will help and how it may hurt.
    it was such a shame for romney that he was made to run away from and run for president against his legislative legacy. people that i know/knew from mass. said it was the best thing he ever did.
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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Godfather. wrote:
    States are starting to roll out details about the exchanges, providing a look at just how affordable coverage under the Affordable Care Act will be. Some potential participants may be surprised at the figures: $2,000 deductibles, $45 primary care visit co-pays, and $250 emergency room tabs.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/13/news/ec ... &hpt=hp_t2


    Godfather.


    I wish they would have put what it was after you reach your deductible, 80/20?. 2000 is a pretty high deductible, but if you don't get sick you won't have to reach it. for $300 a month I think that is pretty reasonable though.

    To put it in perspective GF, through my employer right now I have great insurance. My out of pocket is minuscule, my deductible is basically none existent and my premium per month is somewhere near 700. My co-pay is 30 and my ER/outpatient surgery is 100...Most of the actual premium is paid by my employer, all of it was up until a few years ago. $4000 max out of pocket is a pretty solid deal i think. But it all depends on how much you go to the doctor. If you don't go often at all it costs you nothing but the premium, but if you go all the time or are on a recurring care plan 4000 max out of pocket might sound pretty god damn solid. Am i missing something with that? anyone?

    I am against this bill in principle mainly because it won't do much to curb rising costs for care and might make it worse, but I don't think one can deny it will do a lot of good for a lot of people. I think they should have bullied through a universal system because at this point doing anything else would be, and is going to be like herding cats. It is the only thing that would have brought costs down, or at least keep them on a lower growth pace.
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  • Moonpig
    Moonpig Posts: 659
    Godfather. wrote:
    States are starting to roll out details about the exchanges, providing a look at just how affordable coverage under the Affordable Care Act will be. Some potential participants may be surprised at the figures: $2,000 deductibles, $45 primary care visit co-pays, and $250 emergency room tabs.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/13/news/ec ... &hpt=hp_t2


    Godfather.

    Non story, move along please
  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    ...wonder why?

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Moonpig wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    States are starting to roll out details about the exchanges, providing a look at just how affordable coverage under the Affordable Care Act will be. Some potential participants may be surprised at the figures: $2,000 deductibles, $45 primary care visit co-pays, and $250 emergency room tabs.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/13/news/ec ... &hpt=hp_t2


    Godfather.

    Non story, move along please

    then there is no reason for your reply,move along .

    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,892
    ajedigecko wrote:
    ...wonder why?

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/ins ... ion/print/
    good. let them quit. let them look like crybabies. these guys should be off of the federal government tit anyway. this is what they get for playing politics...i am talking about YOU grassley... :fp:

    they could not come together for something more comprehensive, so get them out of there so new blood might be able to fix something.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,671
    mikepegg44 wrote:

    I am against this bill in principle mainly because it won't do much to curb rising costs for care and might make it worse, but I don't think one can deny it will do a lot of good for a lot of people. I think they should have bullied through a universal system because at this point doing anything else would be, and is going to be like herding cats. It is the only thing that would have brought costs down, or at least keep them on a lower growth pace.

    Why you're against it is one of the reasons I'm for it. It's a step towards a single payer system. Costs will still rise, but now with everyone seeing that they're paying into it, it will create a push to move towards a Canadian/Western European model.

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