Should Pearl Jam Play in Israel?

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

yep...my opinion is they never played there cos of where the israel is in the map
if israel was at north europe next to germany and netherlands,my opinion is they would play 15 times already there..and would be always sold out shows..they have huge fan base at israel..

Or maybe they've not played there before because its a racist Apartheid state engaged in an ongoing campaign of ethnic cleansing?

never the band,their management or members of the band said that..you just assuming..
my opinion still is they never played there cos of the location of israel..there are more than 100 countries out there arent a "racist Apartheid state engaged in an ongoing campaign of ethnic cleansing" and still pj never played there...
took them 15 years to come to Greece,and they add it last min aftet they announce the whole 2006 tour..
after alot of pressure ,letters,signs of 4000 greek fans,so they add croatia and greece at tour...
and nothing to do with politics the reason they didnt visit Greece before.
another exable is Asia tour,alot know things about the band says the logistics arent good enough thats why the band isnt return to tour there..
1st of all music intustry is business...

Thank you Dimi.

Byrnzie wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

never the band,their management or members of the band said that..you just assuming..
my opinion still is they never played there cos of the location of israel..there are more than 100 countries out there arent a "racist Apartheid state engaged in an ongoing campaign of ethnic cleansing" and still pj never played there...
took them 15 years to come to Greece,and they add it last min aftet they announce the whole 2006 tour..
after alot of pressure ,letters,signs of 4000 greek fans,so they add croatia and greece at tour...
and nothing to do with politics the reason they didnt visit Greece before.
another exable is Asia tour,alot know things about the band says the logistics arent good enough thats why the band isnt return to tour there..
1st of all music intustry is business...

They played Taiwan, and the Philippines. I'd imagine playing in those countries would pose more of a logistic challenge than Israel - perched on the end of the Mediterranean, not a million miles from Italy.

But maybe you're right. Maybe it just comes down to logistics. I don't know.

hells if they can make it all the way down here to australia they can make it anywhere.... if they choose to.

Byrnzie wrote:

rollings wrote:

I understand what you're saying, and the reasons. I'm just curious, is the Israeli public really that unaware of their own state of affairs? And with regard to the public voting in the current government, did the people have a better choice of leaders to vote for--did they actually have a choice for, but voted against leaders that would have ended the oppression, etc.?

I understand in theory what you're saying.....but I'm just thinking of all the deprived fans. It doesn't seem fair to them. Especially if the purpose of a boycott is to merely raise awareness of what they already know.

I doubt they're oblivious to what's going on. Either way, maybe an international boycott would wake them from their slumber.

do you know if they had a choice to vote for leaders that would have actually or possibly ended the oppression?

or is it something like in the States--in the end you are voting between two goofs who survived the process of elimination from a whole panel of goofs.

I don't know. I know the situation needs help and attention, but I haven't really been convinced that a musical boycott is going to significantly or even minimally help the situation...especially if its just for the possibly unneccessary purpose of "awareness". Contrarily, it sounds like the people--the civilians who are just like you and me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-ShaFpiVE * could use a litlle PJ.

Pearl Jam's a band who is positively against war and oppressive government. But besides that, they are first and majorly foremost a band who delivers music

* (thank you mcgruff10)

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

never the band,their management or members of the band said that..you just assuming..
my opinion still is they never played there cos of the location of israel..there are more than 100 countries out there arent a "racist Apartheid state engaged in an ongoing campaign of ethnic cleansing" and still pj never played there...
took them 15 years to come to Greece,and they add it last min aftet they announce the whole 2006 tour..
after alot of pressure ,letters,signs of 4000 greek fans,so they add croatia and greece at tour...
and nothing to do with politics the reason they didnt visit Greece before.
another exable is Asia tour,alot know things about the band says the logistics arent good enough thats why the band isnt return to tour there..
1st of all music intustry is business...

They played Taiwan, and the Philippines. I'd imagine playing in those countries would pose more of a logistic challenge than Israel - perched on the end of the Mediterranean, not a million miles from Italy.

But maybe you're right. Maybe it just comes down to logistics. I don't know.

good you mention those countries....i had a copnversation last year with a guy is close to the band and music intustry,and told me they will never return there,cos the band lost money at that tour.
and now you said Italy,i still remember Eddie,when they asked him,why they went to play at Pistoia,Italy,how come pistoia and not a bigger city of italy,
he said"im going when they tells me to go"
go figure how they plan the tour,especially the year of a new album like 2006

ed goes where the surf is.

dimitrispearljam wrote:

catefrances wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

good you mention those countries....i had a copnversation last year with a guy is close to the band and music intustry,and told me they will never return there,cos the band lost money at that tour.
and now you said Italy,i still remember Eddie,when they asked him,why they went to play at Pistoia,Italy,how come pistoia and not a bigger city of italy,
he said"im going when they tells me to go"
go figure how they plan the tour,especially the year of a new album like 2006

ed goes where the surf is.

no shit...where the hell he will go surfing at india or Russia?

kerala. in the south of india. kamchatka, eastern russia.

dimitrispearljam wrote:

catefrances wrote:

ed goes where the surf is.

no shit...where the hell he will go surfing at india or Russia?

Byrnzie wrote:

They played Taiwan, and the Philippines. I'd imagine playing in those countries would pose more of a logistic challenge than Israel - perched on the end of the Mediterranean, not a million miles from Italy.

But maybe you're right. Maybe it just comes down to logistics. I don't know.

it took them 20 fucking years to do a proper cross canada tour, and Canada is their neighbour. Maybe it was because they didn't like Jean Chretien. who knows why they choose where they play. I don't think they've ever played Scotland either, but they've been in that general area. who knows.

catefrances wrote:

ed goes where the surf is.

This is my actual theory on PJ's concert schedule. They are planning vacations and doing gigs to fund it.

This is good news for you Aussies. Not so good for those of us surrounded by corn fields. :(

BinauralJam wrote:

"If you build it, They will come"

Me wanty.