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Three suspects have been taking into custody in relation to the bombings. No descriptions / motives as of yet.
Also, I don't believe taxpayers will be funding his defense team. He gets a public defender option and that's it.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
Boston police have three additional suspects in custody in connection to the Boston Marathon bombings, the department confirmed to Yahoo News Tuesday.
A spokeswoman at the Boston police department directed all questions on the suspects to the FBI, which has yet to disclose their identities. The Boston Globe reports, citing an unnamed police source, that the suspects are three college students and that they are suspected of aiding Dzhokhar Tsarnaev after he allegedly bombed the marathon.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, a 19-year-old college student, is charged with killing three and injuring more than 200 in the two bombs last month. His older brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was killed while fleeing arrest.
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Jason P wrote:Three suspects have been taking into custody in relation to the bombings. No descriptions / motives as of yet.
Also, I don't believe taxpayers will be funding his defense team. He gets a public defender option and that's it.
It was confirmed on CNN the other night
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Bronx Bombers wrote:vant0037 wrote:Bronx Bombers wrote:...taxpayers will now be on the hook for millions for his defense team as well.
Yeah, but what's the alternative in America?
It's bullshit, he has a public defender appointed and paid for by the state. If they want to bring in high powered attorneys to defend him than they should work pro bono and not be paid by the taxpayers.
I'm not sure what you mean. That he should not have a public defender appointed to him (at a high cost to taxpayers)? Whether he has a court-appointed attorney (from a PD office or a federal bar of capital punishment practitioners) OR a privately-retained lawyer (very doubtful - not many private lawyers have capital punishment experience), there will be a cost. In the event that it's a court-appointed lawyer, the cost will be significant. In a high-profile, capital case, they always are.
That's why my question was: what is the alternative? You can't force an attorney to take his case. So he can hire one, but if he can't afford one, he is entitled to a PD. In terms of the costs associated with that representation, you can't deprive someone the right to a vigorous defense, just because they're indigent (which is why the State affords indigent defendants "reasonable expenses" related to the defense).
I understand the frustration that defendants in awful cases get attorneys that are paid for by the State, but I'm not sure what the alternative should be, so long as we're still following the Constitution here in America. Forcing an attorney to take a case pro bono raises far more Constitutional issues than does paying for an indigent defendant's defense with taxpayer dollars.1998-06-30 Minneapolis
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Again, I'm speculating about the "reasonable expenses" thing. In Minnesota, there is a fund that PD's can use during the course of their representing someone. (as an aside: It's usually severely underfunded and of little use)
I have no idea if there is a similar set-up for a case like this, although I think it's safe to assume so.1998-06-30 Minneapolis
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vant0037 wrote:
I understand the frustration that defendants in awful cases get attorneys that are paid for by the State, but I'm not sure what the alternative should be, so long as we're still following the Constitution here in America. Forcing an attorney to take a case pro bono raises far more Constitutional issues than does paying for an indigent defendant's defense with taxpayer dollars.
I agree with this. In this case I wish I didn't, but I do. Which is why I am glad there were others to decide whether or not he should be tried as an enemy combatant and that they made the right decision.
Try him, convict him, punish him. It is the only way.___________________________________________
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JimmyV wrote:vant0037 wrote:
I understand the frustration that defendants in awful cases get attorneys that are paid for by the State, but I'm not sure what the alternative should be, so long as we're still following the Constitution here in America. Forcing an attorney to take a case pro bono raises far more Constitutional issues than does paying for an indigent defendant's defense with taxpayer dollars.
I agree with this. In this case I wish I didn't, but I do. Which is why I am glad there were others to decide whether or not he should be tried as an enemy combatant and that they made the right decision.
Try him, convict him, punish him. It is the only way.
Now whats with these new arrests? Pic I saw looked like same age as the younger? Perhaps classmates at college?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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any news about the other 3 they arrested?the connection with the 19th years old or what part they had to the bombing??
i never believed those 2 did the whole without anyone close to them didnt know about it.."...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
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Plotting to destroy evidence and lying to investigators?
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/05 ... story.html
Two men from Kazakhstan and a man from Cambridge were arrested and charged today in the Boston Marathon bombings investigation, federal prosecutors said.
Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev, both 19 and of New Bedford, were charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice by plotting to dispose of a laptop computer and a backpack containing fireworks belonging to bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the US attorney’s office said in a statement.
Robel Phillipos, 19, of Cambridge was charged with making false statements to law enforcement officials in a terorism investigation, prosecutors said.
Tazhayakov and Kadyrbayev face maximum sentences of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Phillipos faces a maximum sentence of eight years and a $250,000 fine, prosecutors said.___________________________________________
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JimmyV wrote:Plotting to destroy evidence and lying to investigators?
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/05 ... story.html
Two men from Kazakhstan and a man from Cambridge were arrested and charged today in the Boston Marathon bombings investigation, federal prosecutors said.
Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev, both 19 and of New Bedford, were charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice by plotting to dispose of a laptop computer and a backpack containing fireworks belonging to bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the US attorney’s office said in a statement.
Robel Phillipos, 19, of Cambridge was charged with making false statements to law enforcement officials in a terorism investigation, prosecutors said.
Tazhayakov and Kadyrbayev face maximum sentences of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Phillipos faces a maximum sentence of eight years and a $250,000 fine, prosecutors said."...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
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Living the college life, getting girls, smoking pot...seems like big bad America was pretty good to this kid and his friends.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... 3-suspects
With the news of three additional suspects in federal custody, questions remain about the motive for the Boston Marathon bombing and whether the attack involved conspirators beyond the Tsarnaev brothers. But an account from an acquaintance of the suspects—a student at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth who was once romantically involved with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev himself—helps shed light on the individuals now at the center of the investigation.
The woman, who lived in the same dorm at UMass–Dartmouth as Tsarnaev during the 2011-12 academic year, told Mother Jones that she first met and had a "fleeting fling" with the bombing suspect during the fall of 2011. Around the same time, she says, she met Tsarnaev's college buddies Dias Kadyrbayev, Azamat Tazhayakov, and Robel Phillipos, the men now accused of helping Tsarnaev dispose of evidence and lying to investigators [9] after the bombing.
Kadyrbayev and Tazhayakov, the woman said, were part of a group of about five Russian-speaking friends at the university whom Tsarnaev was never without. "They all sort of idolized Jahar," she said, using the name she and others knew Tsarnaev by. "Dias was probably the one closest to him." She said that of the friends, Tsarnaev was the most popular and in touch with campus social life. "I cannot speak to the nature of their relationship because of the language barrier, however I did observe that Jahar was always the leader in his group."
That may help explain why the two would've helped Tsarnaev dispose of evidence after the marathon bombing, as authorities now allege. Whether they did so, and what knowledge they may have had about the bombing, remains unclear.
The woman, who was contacted by Mother Jones, asked to remain anonymous, fearing for the loss of her privacy. Her account of the Boston bombing suspect and his friends was corroborated by another former resident of the UMass-Dartmouth dorm where she met and became involved with Tsarnaev.
She got to know the group, she said, while hanging around campus with them, smoking pot and listening to music. She says her romantic relationship with Tsarnaev lasted for about two weeks. "I met him standing outside a building and honestly, his face was enough to capture my heart," she explained, noting that lots of women fawned over him. "I walked right up to him and I was like, 'Oh my God, you are adorable. Can we hang out?' I'm very forward."
Her nascent romance with Tsarnaev soon soured, though, after he invited her to come to his dorm room alone. "He wanted to go further than I did, and that made me uncomfortable, and I realized that that's not the kind of person that I wanted to be around," she says. "I don't think that's necessarily being a terrorist. I think that's just called being a hands-y teenaged boy."
She said she remains skeptical that Tsarnaev had a religious motive for carrying out the attack, as has been suggested in the context of his older brother's apparent radicalization. "He never mentioned anything about religion," she said. If he had been devoutly religious, he probably wouldn't have become romantically entangled with her, she added, because she practices a different Eastern religion. "I just can't see him being a radical jihadist just because of the nature of who he was. I don't doubt that he did it, but the 'why?' behind it—I'm having difficulty believing the news."
If anything, Tsarnaev's friend Kadyrbayev may have been more religious, in her view. She described a falling out she had with Kadyrbayev a few months after meeting him. "I went out to a party and he made a comment about how my dress was kind of inappropriate because it was kind of revealing," she says. "Other than that, I never got the vibe that he was a very conservative fellow."
A page that appears to belong to Kadyrbayev on Vkontakte, a Russian social-media website similar to Facebook, hints at conservative views about women. Among his posts is a poem attributed to Kazakh poet Abai Qunanbaiuli that defines a good wife as smart, thrifty, and modest. Yet, that would seem at odds with several images that Kadyrbayev has also posted of scantily clad women, as well as a crude cartoon about marijuana, alcohol, and rape.
The woman recalled that when she first saw Tsarnaev's name in the news, she didn't recognize him because she knew him as Jahar. Later it clicked: "I remembered when we had gone up to his room, he had spent like 10 minutes explaining why his name was spelled differently."
Could he have really been behind the marathon bombing? "I was like, there's no way…and then I saw his face all over the news."
She was surprised to learn about the other suspects' alleged involvement as well. "There was no indication that they were crazy at all. They just seemed goofy, kind of lackadaisical, not interested in their studies. But, you know, whatever, it was their first semester of college. No one really cared about books."___________________________________________
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The twitterati have spoken: Robel Phillipos is innocent.
Phillipos, 19, faces up to eight years for allegedly lying to federal authorities investigating the Boston bombings — but the Dzhokhar Tsarnaev pal got a flurry of supportive posts under the hashtag #FreeRobel.
Others took exception to the fact that Phillipos faces a harsher sentence than his alleged accomplices, the 19-year-old Kazakh suspects Dias Kadyrbayev, and Azamat Tazhayakov, who could each spend five years behind bars for conspiracy to obstruct justice.
Phillipos is accused of being part of a plot to toss Tsarnaev’s firework-filled backpack to keep him out of trouble.
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/ ... -1.1333826
Unreal hopefully these 3 punks all receive max sentences, toss them in general population lets see how long it takes to wipe the smiles off their faces.0 -
Bronx Bombers wrote:The twitterati have spoken: Robel Phillipos is innocent.
Phillipos, 19, faces up to eight years for allegedly lying to federal authorities investigating the Boston bombings — but the Dzhokhar Tsarnaev pal got a flurry of supportive posts under the hashtag #FreeRobel.
Others took exception to the fact that Phillipos faces a harsher sentence than his alleged accomplices, the 19-year-old Kazakh suspects Dias Kadyrbayev, and Azamat Tazhayakov, who could each spend five years behind bars for conspiracy to obstruct justice.
Phillipos is accused of being part of a plot to toss Tsarnaev’s firework-filled backpack to keep him out of trouble.
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/ ... -1.1333826
Unreal hopefully these 3 punks all receive max sentences, toss them in general population lets see how long it takes to wipe the smiles off their faces.
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ofthegirl99 wrote:RustyShackelford wrote:unsung wrote:What scares me is the people cheering for military occupation of the streets.
It only took one citizen that was paying attention to capture this guy.
unsung...This is the best comment in the entire thread.
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Without question, Watertown, MA was a police state for a day.
Somehow I think Benjamin Franklin would have used a bit of common sense If a crazed bomber would have been around when he made this quote......
I would think that Benjamin Franklin would be pretty fucked off by the amount of times people wheel out his statements to justify all manners of shit.
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Cambridge, Massachusetts, where the Tsarnaev brothers lived prior to their terror attack at the Boston Marathon, has announced they will not allow dead suspect Tamerlan's body to be buried there, it was revealed Sunday.
City manager Robert Healy said Tsarnaev's body was not welcomed in one of its cemeteries.
'I have determined that it is not in the best interest of peace within the city to execute a cemetery deed for a plot within the Cambridge Cemetery for the body of Tamerlan Tsarnaev,' Healey said.
The news comes as Tsarnaev's uncle, Ruslan Tsarni, arrived in the Bay State to claim his nephew's body and prepare for a funeral.
Every cemetery in Massachusetts has turned down the body of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Stefan told Fox News, but he remains insistent that this death be handled like any other. It is also understood that Stefan has reached out unsuccessfully to cemeteries in New Jersey and Connecticut.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2SWHl98aU
His family has a lot of nerve wanting to bury this POS in this country.0 -
Love that Cambridge is saying no.___________________________________________
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Moonpig wrote:Are the musings from a man not of this time really that apt to the world today?
The passage of time doesn't make one, or their thoughts, insignificant or irrelevant. Much can still be learned from them - at least from where I am.0 -
i think there's space next to salami bin laden
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Bronx Bombers wrote:Cambridge, Massachusetts, where the Tsarnaev brothers lived prior to their terror attack at the Boston Marathon, has announced they will not allow dead suspect Tamerlan's body to be buried there, it was revealed Sunday.
City manager Robert Healy said Tsarnaev's body was not welcomed in one of its cemeteries.
'I have determined that it is not in the best interest of peace within the city to execute a cemetery deed for a plot within the Cambridge Cemetery for the body of Tamerlan Tsarnaev,' Healey said.
The news comes as Tsarnaev's uncle, Ruslan Tsarni, arrived in the Bay State to claim his nephew's body and prepare for a funeral.
Every cemetery in Massachusetts has turned down the body of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Stefan told Fox News, but he remains insistent that this death be handled like any other. It is also understood that Stefan has reached out unsuccessfully to cemeteries in New Jersey and Connecticut.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2SWHl98aU
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