I believe they have definitely had some setlists over their careers that could be considered Greatest Hits sets, but to say they are dialing it in now with greatest hits setlists night after night is just absurd.
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rare 1 (râr)
adj. rar·er, rar·est
1. Infrequently occurring; uncommon: a rare event; a plant that is rare in this region.
2. Excellent; extraordinary: a rare sense of honor.
3. Thin in density: rarefied: rare air.
hence the songs for the hardcore fan are played infrequently. It keeps them special. Also I have been to about 20 shows --- but the people i bring along with me haven't - sure i want to see something i haven't seen, but i also want them to see things.
I can still remember how amazing Daughter or Small Town or Betterman felt the first time seeing them live. Everyone should get to feel that.
and by the way - it still feels pretty good to hear all you fuckers singing these classics.
I also agree if they left out "hits" that normal fans would be disappointed.
Seeing 16 shows since 08, and 29 shows total since 2000, I'll say yes I am a little tired of certain songs live.
Specifically
Dte
Small town
Fixer
But, I don't mind other hits that I like. Therefore I don't get upset when I heat Dte, because I know when I hear these songs I enjoy them so, I try a see both sides.
Corduroy
Even flow
Alive.
But now let's ask our selves, what makes those unique shows from the past stand out today? It's honestly not a setlist full of rate songs, like Newark 2010. Even with all those rare songs its not considered an all time favorite. But the night before, Boston 2010, is considered. It's not full of rare songs, actually a lot of hits. But it's the certain songs that are hardly ever played that makes it such a great show.
Here is a 30 song set. Including hits, covers and all the usual. But I also filled it out with songs we love that are never played enough. Tell me if this would be a good compromise.
Set:
Yellow Ledbetter
Animal
Hail hail
Deep
Corduroy
I am Mine
In my tree
Even flow
Small town
Inside job
Present Tense
Who You Are
Do the Evolution
Once
Blood
Why go
Porch
Enc 1
Man of the hour
Nothin man
Better man
Black
Crazy Mary
Alive
Enc 2
Got some
Habit
Smile
Around the Bend
Rocking in the free world
Enc 3
Indifference
Baba O Riley
Right there, off the top of my head, is a 30 song set, filled with hits but also including not rare songs but Songs we never hear anymore. I could make another different 30 song set as well.
I believe the point the op is making is the same as I did. Nothin wrong with the radio hits but switch it up sometimes to make everyone online go crazy. All they had to do was play even flow second in South America and every one was like what??!! Whoa!!
Here's another set for example
Oceans
Breath
Given to fly
Go
Last exit
Unthought known
Daughter
Jeremy
All those yesterday's
Garden
Half full
Wma
Spin the black circle
Wish list
No way
In hiding
Rearviewmirror
Enc 1
Sometimes
Slow lukin
Faithful
Alive
Brain of j
Dissident
Even flow
Enc 2
Release
You are
Nothing as it seems
Parting ways
All along the watchtower
If there was one band that you could never call a 'greatest hits band' it is Pearl Jam :wtf:
Yep. Most bands play the same boring ass set every night. PJ switches it up all the time and it still isn't good enough. :fp:
Not just that but they bring a new album out every few years and tour it. A lot of other bands that have been around for the same length of time just sit back, do nothing for years and then just play the 'hits' when they finally do decide to tour. PJ stay relevant with their fans because they are always moving forward.
Sometimes I think people expect far too much from PJ (not bashing the OP here)
i have no problems with Greatest Hits shows as long as they're not phoning it in. I've said it before--- some of the rare B-sides shows i've been to have been sloppy and disjointed. Some of the greatest hits shows have been the most powerful.
Again, "Jeremy" played with intensity is way more goosebump inducing than hearing them trying to remember "Push Me Pull Me" .
I wish they would switch it up a little bit by including more No Code/Yield/Binaural at some of their shows. Those albums are consistently ignored and when songs from them do pop up, it's generally the same ones (Hail Hail, Evolution, Given to Fly, Wishlist) and even some more/different Lost Dogs more frequently as well. Hey, doesn't Stone just want to play the hits?
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Every once in awhile we get a show/setlist that is vintage pearl jam, meaning so creative and fresh. But for the most part, I consider them a greatest hits band and it is a shame. I have seen this band 19 times over 14 years. From the years 2000 to 2009, set lists were incredible. Not so much anymore...Maybe this band has too many perfect songs, I don't know, but I believe, for the most part, the unique setlists days are few and far between.
Compared to other bands, Pearl Jam have perfect setlists.
Although I love PJ, RHCP is my favorite band and I am also a regular on their site. RHCP sets are legit hit singles and us fans rarely enjoy non-singles and songs off all the albums.
PJ have great setlists in my opinion, even today still.
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The one where they included Man Of The Hour and Save You but left off Glorified G and Why Go?
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adj. rar·er, rar·est
1. Infrequently occurring; uncommon: a rare event; a plant that is rare in this region.
2. Excellent; extraordinary: a rare sense of honor.
3. Thin in density: rarefied: rare air.
hence the songs for the hardcore fan are played infrequently. It keeps them special. Also I have been to about 20 shows --- but the people i bring along with me haven't - sure i want to see something i haven't seen, but i also want them to see things.
I can still remember how amazing Daughter or Small Town or Betterman felt the first time seeing them live. Everyone should get to feel that.
and by the way - it still feels pretty good to hear all you fuckers singing these classics.
Yes, the band does a great job switching it up.
They switch it up more than any other band.
I also agree if they left out "hits" that normal fans would be disappointed.
Seeing 16 shows since 08, and 29 shows total since 2000, I'll say yes I am a little tired of certain songs live.
Specifically
Dte
Small town
Fixer
But, I don't mind other hits that I like. Therefore I don't get upset when I heat Dte, because I know when I hear these songs I enjoy them so, I try a see both sides.
Corduroy
Even flow
Alive.
But now let's ask our selves, what makes those unique shows from the past stand out today? It's honestly not a setlist full of rate songs, like Newark 2010. Even with all those rare songs its not considered an all time favorite. But the night before, Boston 2010, is considered. It's not full of rare songs, actually a lot of hits. But it's the certain songs that are hardly ever played that makes it such a great show.
Here is a 30 song set. Including hits, covers and all the usual. But I also filled it out with songs we love that are never played enough. Tell me if this would be a good compromise.
Set:
Yellow Ledbetter
Animal
Hail hail
Deep
Corduroy
I am Mine
In my tree
Even flow
Small town
Inside job
Present Tense
Who You Are
Do the Evolution
Once
Blood
Why go
Porch
Enc 1
Man of the hour
Nothin man
Better man
Black
Crazy Mary
Alive
Enc 2
Got some
Habit
Smile
Around the Bend
Rocking in the free world
Enc 3
Indifference
Baba O Riley
Right there, off the top of my head, is a 30 song set, filled with hits but also including not rare songs but Songs we never hear anymore. I could make another different 30 song set as well.
I believe the point the op is making is the same as I did. Nothin wrong with the radio hits but switch it up sometimes to make everyone online go crazy. All they had to do was play even flow second in South America and every one was like what??!! Whoa!!
Here's another set for example
Oceans
Breath
Given to fly
Go
Last exit
Unthought known
Daughter
Jeremy
All those yesterday's
Garden
Half full
Wma
Spin the black circle
Wish list
No way
In hiding
Rearviewmirror
Enc 1
Sometimes
Slow lukin
Faithful
Alive
Brain of j
Dissident
Even flow
Enc 2
Release
You are
Nothing as it seems
Parting ways
All along the watchtower
I just replied and supported your thread. Even gave two setlists to support what your saying. Guess I wasted my time.
Yep. Most bands play the same boring ass set every night. PJ switches it up all the time and it still isn't good enough. :fp:
Not just that but they bring a new album out every few years and tour it. A lot of other bands that have been around for the same length of time just sit back, do nothing for years and then just play the 'hits' when they finally do decide to tour. PJ stay relevant with their fans because they are always moving forward.
Sometimes I think people expect far too much from PJ (not bashing the OP here)
Again, "Jeremy" played with intensity is way more goosebump inducing than hearing them trying to remember "Push Me Pull Me" .
True.
If Glorified G/Why Go got more radioplay etc than Save You/MOTH I don't know...
Compared to other bands, Pearl Jam have perfect setlists.
Although I love PJ, RHCP is my favorite band and I am also a regular on their site. RHCP sets are legit hit singles and us fans rarely enjoy non-singles and songs off all the albums.
PJ have great setlists in my opinion, even today still.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense