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  • YieldToNothing
    YieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
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  • TribeintoBreath
    TribeintoBreath Posts: 883
    Indifference152 wrote:
    Thank you foodboy. Listen, they are the ones who set the standard. They set the bar high. I'm saying I think from here on out the shows will feature many of the same songs. I guess I'm not considering the casual fan...on the other hand, I don't think I we will see a festival setlist like bonaroo 2007 either.

    Bonnaroo was a GREAT show. 2nd set Release??
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    YieldToNothing wrote:
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    :lol:
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,448
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    12,000 people would go home incredibly disappointed if they heard a Lost Dogs set. And the band respects their WHOLE audience too much to do that.

    They should "No Code" their setlist and/or concert persona. Start from scratch, do a left turn, introduce an acoustic section or something :)

    I want my next concert to be the "Who you are" of Pearl Jam concerts.
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  • TamaDrummer91
    TamaDrummer91 VA Posts: 1,294
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    Indifference152 wrote:
    Every once in awhile we get a show/setlist that is vintage pearl jam, meaning so creative and fresh. But for the most part, I consider them a greatest hits band and it is a shame. I have seen this band 19 times over 14 years. From the years 2000 to 2009, set lists were incredible. Not so much anymore...Maybe this band has too many perfect songs, I don't know, but I believe, for the most part, the unique setlists days are few and far between.
    Don't see how the 2000 setlists were more inspired than the European 2012 setlists?

    +1

    Thought about this not long ago as I was looking through 2000 setlists and thought they all looked more similar than I remember. :)
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    look, I hear this so often about bands it's getting kind of tiresome. To me, ANY band that has been around for 20+ years has basically no CHOICE but to become a greatest hits band to a degree. I mean, they have so much material to play live, can you imagine how difficult it is to come up with a setlist that comprises maybe 20% of their total catalogue and keep 15,000 fans and themselves happy? So of COURSE they are going to play most of their hits, which is usually one or two songs per album at least. Ten as a WHOLE was a hit. So take 8 albums times 2 equals 16 songs right there. Then add all of Ten, which they don't ever do, now you have 26. So realistically, let's say they play half of Ten, so now we're left with 21. That's already more than most bands play in a set. So now that leaves anywhere between 5-9 songs left in the set that the band can cherry pick from their catalogue. Not to mention 2 or 3 covers that everyone expects. And those songs have to flow.

    12,000 people would go home incredibly disappointed if they heard a Lost Dogs set. And the band respects their WHOLE audience too much to do that.


    very well said. I think pj along with phish and dmb switch up their set lists incredibly well to appeal to a very diverse crowd. I don't think pj is a greatest hits band, I think of steve miller as a greatest hits band. every summer steve miller plays you get the same damn thing....I wonder how many times he's ended a show with the joker.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,448
    mcgruff10 wrote:
    I wonder how many times he's ended a show with the joker.
    More times than PJ have ended with YL? ;)
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  • Indifference152
    Indifference152 Posts: 305
    Totally missing the point...most of the people on this board right now are the reason this band is still playing music. Casual fans were gone in11996...think about it.
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Indifference152 wrote:
    Totally missing the point...most of the people on this board right now are the reason this band is still playing music. Casual fans were gone in11996...think about it.

    This board makes up a very small percentage of their fan base
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Indifference152 wrote:
    Totally missing the point...most of the people on this board right now are the reason this band is still playing music. Casual fans were gone in11996...think about it.

    you can't be serious. so there's 10-15,000 people from each city on the planet on this board? :lol:
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  • Indifference152
    Indifference152 Posts: 305
    Yes I agree. Open up with GARDEN at wrigley!
  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    I believe they have definitely had some setlists over their careers that could be considered Greatest Hits sets, but to say they are dialing it in now with greatest hits setlists night after night is just absurd.
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  • Indifference152
    Indifference152 Posts: 305
    I consider greatest hits what the band considered greatest hits....the rearviewmirror double album.
  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    Indifference152 wrote:
    I consider greatest hits what the band considered greatest hits....the rearviewmirror double album.


    The one where they included Man Of The Hour and Save You but left off Glorified G and Why Go?
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  • Indifference152
    Indifference152 Posts: 305
    Haha yeah...crazy shit. I never understood that greatest hits record...
  • mydogmookieblaylock
    mydogmookieblaylock Posts: 2,996
    rare 1 (râr)
    adj. rar·er, rar·est
    1. Infrequently occurring; uncommon: a rare event; a plant that is rare in this region.
    2. Excellent; extraordinary: a rare sense of honor.
    3. Thin in density: rarefied: rare air.


    hence the songs for the hardcore fan are played infrequently. It keeps them special. Also I have been to about 20 shows --- but the people i bring along with me haven't - sure i want to see something i haven't seen, but i also want them to see things.
    I can still remember how amazing Daughter or Small Town or Betterman felt the first time seeing them live. Everyone should get to feel that.
    and by the way - it still feels pretty good to hear all you fuckers singing these classics.
  • Indifference152
    Indifference152 Posts: 305
    Haha yeah I'd have to agree with that. Watching my girlfriend sing small town makes me feel incredible...
  • smanchac1
    smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    Here's how I feel.

    Yes, the band does a great job switching it up.

    They switch it up more than any other band.

    I also agree if they left out "hits" that normal fans would be disappointed.

    Seeing 16 shows since 08, and 29 shows total since 2000, I'll say yes I am a little tired of certain songs live.
    Specifically
    Dte
    Small town
    Fixer

    But, I don't mind other hits that I like. Therefore I don't get upset when I heat Dte, because I know when I hear these songs I enjoy them so, I try a see both sides.
    Corduroy
    Even flow
    Alive.

    But now let's ask our selves, what makes those unique shows from the past stand out today? It's honestly not a setlist full of rate songs, like Newark 2010. Even with all those rare songs its not considered an all time favorite. But the night before, Boston 2010, is considered. It's not full of rare songs, actually a lot of hits. But it's the certain songs that are hardly ever played that makes it such a great show.

    Here is a 30 song set. Including hits, covers and all the usual. But I also filled it out with songs we love that are never played enough. Tell me if this would be a good compromise.

    Set:

    Yellow Ledbetter
    Animal
    Hail hail
    Deep
    Corduroy
    I am Mine
    In my tree
    Even flow
    Small town
    Inside job
    Present Tense
    Who You Are
    Do the Evolution
    Once
    Blood
    Why go
    Porch

    Enc 1
    Man of the hour
    Nothin man
    Better man
    Black
    Crazy Mary
    Alive

    Enc 2
    Got some
    Habit
    Smile
    Around the Bend
    Rocking in the free world

    Enc 3
    Indifference
    Baba O Riley

    Right there, off the top of my head, is a 30 song set, filled with hits but also including not rare songs but Songs we never hear anymore. I could make another different 30 song set as well.

    I believe the point the op is making is the same as I did. Nothin wrong with the radio hits but switch it up sometimes to make everyone online go crazy. All they had to do was play even flow second in South America and every one was like what??!! Whoa!!

    Here's another set for example

    Oceans
    Breath
    Given to fly
    Go
    Last exit
    Unthought known
    Daughter
    Jeremy
    All those yesterday's
    Garden
    Half full
    Wma
    Spin the black circle
    Wish list
    No way
    In hiding
    Rearviewmirror

    Enc 1
    Sometimes
    Slow lukin
    Faithful
    Alive
    Brain of j
    Dissident
    Even flow

    Enc 2
    Release
    You are
    Nothing as it seems
    Parting ways
    All along the watchtower
  • Digital Twilight
    Digital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    If there was one band that you could never call a 'greatest hits band' it is Pearl Jam :wtf:
  • Indifference152
    Indifference152 Posts: 305
    Nobody gets the point, point taken.

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