Greatest hits band..

Indifference152 wrote:

Every once in awhile we get a show/setlist that is vintage pearl jam, meaning so creative and fresh. But for the most part, I consider them a greatest hits band and it is a shame. I have seen this band 19 times over 14 years. From the years 2000 to 2009, set lists were incredible. Not so much anymore...Maybe this band has too many perfect songs, I don't know, but I believe, for the most part, the unique setlists days are few and far between.

Don't see how the 2000 setlists were more inspired than the European 2012 setlists?

mcgruff10 wrote:

5 hits out of 29 songs? the hits in my opinion are: jeremy, daughter, last kiss, better man, alive

By your account, Rearviewmirror could have never been released.

Do The Evolution, for exampple, is ofc by Pearl Jam standard one of their greatest hits.

When I saw them in 2010 over 6 shows, I think I saw over 100 unique songs. Never counted up 2011 or 2012, but that's not too bad. And there are a lot of casual fans at their shows.Way more than the die hards.

mcgruff10 wrote:

Festival show:
09/21/12: Deluna Music Festival, Pensicola Beach, Pensicola, FL, USA
main set: Oceans, Interstellar Overdrive -> Corduroy, Got Some, Once, Given To Fly, Amongst the Waves, Grievance, Even FLow, World Wid Suicide, The Fixer, Daughter/(It’s OK), Of The Earth, Elderly Woman …, Parachutes, Unthought Known, Do The Evolution, Porch
encore: Better Man(/Save It For Later), Lukin, Alive, Baba O’Riley, Yellow Ledbetter


6 hits: evenflow, daughter, porch, betterman, alive, baba, yellow

interstellar overdrive, parachutes, lukin, amongst the waves are hits?

Corduroy, GTF, Fixer, Small Town, DTE, and maybe even Unthought all could be considered hits as well.

a hit to me is a song that every one knows...a radio hit. so i don't think it's flawed as a fuck, merely an opinion. my buddy brought is girlfirend to the msg shows in 2010...she knew the radio hits. not dte, rvm, etc. those songs like unthought knows etc are definitely hits in pearl jam fans eyes but not to the general public.
what is a "hit" to all of us? is it just a really good song or a song that was waaay overplayed on the radio that everyone could sing at a campfire?

this band is so far from a greatest hits band. ignoring festivals, their setlists have been consistently excellent

my take on this is that what he may be trying to say is that there are too many of the same songs always being played from a group of songs and that includes the hits. if you go to 4 shows in a week you might see a number of songs 3 or 4 times. yes there will be different songs thrown in and the odd rarity from time to time but really most shows are from a base of songs with others thrown in.

well, if someone considers 80% of their songs to be hits, then I suppose that would be correct.

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:

mcgruff10 wrote:

a hit to me is a song that every one knows...a radio hit. so i don't think it's flawed as a fuck, merely an opinion. my buddy brought is girlfirend to the msg shows in 2010...she knew the radio hits. not dte, rvm, etc. those songs like unthought knows etc are definitely hits in pearl jam fans eyes but not to the general public.
what is a "hit" to all of us? is it just a really good song or a song that was waaay overplayed on the radio that everyone could sing at a campfire?

But the semantics regarding what makes a hit or not is irrelevant.
Widen your view and try to get what the TS is going after instead.

As stated by me before: Rearviewmirror (Greatest Hits 1991–2003)

You should file a lawsuit against them/Epic for putting out a Greatest Hits album (consisting of the greatest hits by the bands standard) and make PJ put out an EP with only "the hits" by your standards then instead...

It's abvious what the TS mean. So discuss that instead of going into semantics regarding if GTF is an universal hit or not (by Pearl Jam standards it is a hit). Pearl Jam has a base of songs that are pretty much always played, and they are played to include the "casual fan" or the "casual concert goer".

:roll:

look, I hear this so often about bands it's getting kind of tiresome. To me, ANY band that has been around for 20+ years has basically no CHOICE but to become a greatest hits band to a degree. I mean, they have so much material to play live, can you imagine how difficult it is to come up with a setlist that comprises maybe 20% of their total catalogue and keep 15,000 fans and themselves happy? So of COURSE they are going to play most of their hits, which is usually one or two songs per album at least. Ten as a WHOLE was a hit. So take 8 albums times 2 equals 16 songs right there. Then add all of Ten, which they don't ever do, now you have 26. So realistically, let's say they play half of Ten, so now we're left with 21. That's already more than most bands play in a set. So now that leaves anywhere between 5-9 songs left in the set that the band can cherry pick from their catalogue. Not to mention 2 or 3 covers that everyone expects. And those songs have to flow.

12,000 people would go home incredibly disappointed if they heard a Lost Dogs set. And the band respects their WHOLE audience too much to do that.