Hologram concert of dead musicians: would you go?

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    regardless if anyone thinks this is a dumb idea or not, do you see anything morally or even legally wrong with doing this? I mean, who has the legal right to use someone's past real live performance and pass it off as current?

    as a musician, I don't know how I'd feel about that possibility.

    Since a holograph is basically a 3D movie, I don't see anything morally wrong with it. As far as legal concerns, that would probably depend on whether or not consent of the deceased estate was necessary.

    Interesting that Jim Morrison's name comes up a lot here. I would enjoy watching Morrison recite "Horse Latitudes".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy9Ipdvj7Ok
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    brianlux wrote:

    Interesting that Jim Morrison's name comes up a lot here. I would enjoy watching Morrison recite "Horse Latitudes".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy9Ipdvj7Ok

    Oh, that would be something. :D
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    HFD - I guess the legal right resides with the estate.

    Morally - I don't see a problem here. I don't think anyone would be passing off this 'performance' as a real one. More like watching a movie, documentary, whatever.

    I have a number of music/concert DVDs, some with dead performers. Would that be any different?

    Is it any different than those ads that cut in dead stars, such as Brando or James Dean, in with 'the living'?
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Jeanwah wrote:
    brianlux wrote:

    Interesting that Jim Morrison's name comes up a lot here. I would enjoy watching Morrison recite "Horse Latitudes".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy9Ipdvj7Ok

    Oh, that would be something. :D


    Oh yeah..... **goes off in dream world**
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Sounds silly but it would make me sad I guess, most especially sharing the stage
    with band members who have enjoyed a long life.

    I think I'll stick with listening to albums, watching old clips of them in their time
    like documentaries.

    I would probably be crying if I went to see something like this in concert.
    I cried watching Miss Lisa and her Dad.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    redrock wrote:
    HFD - I guess the legal right resides with the estate.

    Morally - I don't see a problem here. I don't think anyone would be passing off this 'performance' as a real one. More like watching a movie, documentary, whatever.

    I have a number of music/concert DVDs, some with dead performers. Would that be any different?

    Is it any different than those ads that cut in dead stars, such as Brando or James Dean, in with 'the living'?

    yeah, after I posed the question, I realized it really would be not much different than me watching one of my Nirvana dvd's. I think it would actually be less weird that watching Ian Astbury play Jim Morrison live. Which I saw. Which was uncomfortable.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    as sacriledge as this may sound, all this talk about Jim Morrison made me realize: I've never seen one of their live dvd's. I think I need to get on that.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    I have no interests in that sort of ridiculous gimmick ... now I like what the who did where in 2 separate songs they incorporated video of Keith and John ... too me this was totally acceptable.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Any live version of The End - mama mia!
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    as sacriledge as this may sound, all this talk about Jim Morrison made me realize: I've never seen one of their live dvd's. I think I need to get on that.

    Although the dvds are good, Jim was on better behavior on these dvds. The real shows were the ones of him going off on a tangent (but he was also wasted). Unfortunately I've only read about these shows.
  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    brianlux wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    regardless if anyone thinks this is a dumb idea or not, do you see anything morally or even legally wrong with doing this? I mean, who has the legal right to use someone's past real live performance and pass it off as current?

    as a musician, I don't know how I'd feel about that possibility.

    Since a holograph is basically a 3D movie, I don't see anything morally wrong with it. As far as legal concerns, that would probably depend on whether or not consent of the deceased estate was necessary.

    Interesting that Jim Morrison's name comes up a lot here. I would enjoy watching Morrison recite "Horse Latitudes".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy9Ipdvj7Ok

    I would not go see Morrison. I would go to See Hendrix first.
    Priorities with dead people. They don't have any time. :lol: But living people do?
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    as sacriledge as this may sound, all this talk about Jim Morrison made me realize: I've never seen one of their live dvd's. I think I need to get on that.

    Although the dvds are good, Jim was on better behavior on these dvds. The real shows were the ones of him going off on a tangent (but he was also wasted). Unfortunately I've only read about these shows.

    I've seen them once in SF in 1967. Sadly, I was too young to fully appreciate what I was seeing but it left a 'forever' imprint on me.
  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    brianlux wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    regardless if anyone thinks this is a dumb idea or not, do you see anything morally or even legally wrong with doing this? I mean, who has the legal right to use someone's past real live performance and pass it off as current?

    as a musician, I don't know how I'd feel about that possibility.

    Since a holograph is basically a 3D movie, I don't see anything morally wrong with it. As far as legal concerns, that would probably depend on whether or not consent of the deceased estate was necessary.

    Interesting that Jim Morrison's name comes up a lot here. I would enjoy watching Morrison recite "Horse Latitudes".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy9Ipdvj7Ok


    How about Jim sitting on a stool all alone with a table next to him with a bottle of whiskey on it, and he just
    recites the poetry recorded for An American Prayer?

    Now THAT, i would go see!!!
    Peace, Love.

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  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    pandora wrote:
    Sounds silly but it would make me sad I guess, most especially sharing the stage
    with band members who have enjoyed a long life.

    I think I'll stick with listening to albums, watching old clips of them in their time
    like documentaries.

    I would probably be crying if I went to see something like this in concert.
    I cried watching Miss Lisa and her Dad.


    I agree for the most part Pandi. Then agian, I think how the doors wanted to tour the LA Woman album so
    badly, but never got the chance. They could finally do so with HoloJim.

    I don't know. I'm really torn about it and for the most part lean towards leaving the dead be.
    Peace, Love.

    "To question your government is not unpatriotic --
    to not question your government is unpatriotic."
    -- Sen. Chuck Hagel
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    redrock wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    as sacriledge as this may sound, all this talk about Jim Morrison made me realize: I've never seen one of their live dvd's. I think I need to get on that.

    Although the dvds are good, Jim was on better behavior on these dvds. The real shows were the ones of him going off on a tangent (but he was also wasted). Unfortunately I've only read about these shows.

    I've seen them once in SF in 1967. Sadly, I was too young to fully appreciate what I was seeing but it left a 'forever' imprint on me.

    Oh, the lucky ones!!
  • even flow - question mark
    even flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:


    yeah, after I posed the question, I realized it really would be not much different than me watching one of my Nirvana dvd's. I think it would actually be less weird that watching Ian Astbury play Jim Morrison live. Which I saw. Which was uncomfortable.

    But you must say he did a good job. At least I think he did.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • even flow - question mark
    even flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    Okay I have caved. To see Thin Lizzy with Phil would be Nirvana.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    redrock wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    as sacriledge as this may sound, all this talk about Jim Morrison made me realize: I've never seen one of their live dvd's. I think I need to get on that.

    Although the dvds are good, Jim was on better behavior on these dvds. The real shows were the ones of him going off on a tangent (but he was also wasted). Unfortunately I've only read about these shows.

    I've seen them once in SF in 1967. Sadly, I was too young to fully appreciate what I was seeing but it left a 'forever' imprint on me.


    Both Jim's were on tangents. One of the members of The Beatles actually had a scuffle with one of the Jims.
    (Jim as touring with them, one night they see him smacking a woman with a glass bottle, and the Beatles' couldn't let it happen. They never played near each other after that.)
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    even flow - question mark wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:


    yeah, after I posed the question, I realized it really would be not much different than me watching one of my Nirvana dvd's. I think it would actually be less weird that watching Ian Astbury play Jim Morrison live. Which I saw. Which was uncomfortable.

    But you must say he did a good job. At least I think he did.

    yeah, but I didn't know the intention was going to be Ian trying to be Jim. I thought he would bring his own flavor to it. This seemed like pathetic karaoke to me. He even fucking dressed like him. It was weird.
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  • pjradio
    pjradio Posts: 6,704
    Interesting technology, but I don't think I would even watch a TV broadcast of a hologram concert. Much less pay to see it live.
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