NOT ONLY WOULD I GO, I'D ASK FOR AUTOGRAPHS! :roll:
I felt dirty going to watch Ian sing with the Doors as good as that was. Why in the world would I go to see a hologram when I can watch a dvd in the comfort of my own home and drink and smoke and make it feel real.
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I wonder how the banter in between songs would work
You'd hear Jim talking about the Vietnam war in the year 2015AD.
Nah, he'd be talking about our eventual end and breaking through to the other side.
That would be such a trippy thing to see. Damn... one could even put all your favs on stage at one time. Make a super, super band - Jim with Jimmy with Janis, etc. (an all J band???).
Definitely need to be in the right frame of mind to see that!
I thought it was going to be just the artist not with the live counterparts.
I think I would pass on that and invest in more albums instead.
look up the video on youtube of Snoop Dogg and Tupac. I don't like rap at ALL, but that "duet" was something to see. and the hologram looks nothing like the princess lea "you're our only hope" hologram. Tupac looked like he was really there.
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In the fields of philosophy and æsthetics, the term philistinism describes the social attitude of anti-intellectualism that undervalues and despises art, beauty, spirituality, and intellect; ‘the manners, habits, and character, or mode of thinking of a philistine’. A philistine person is the man or woman who is smugly narrow of mind and of conventional morality whose materialistic views and tastes indicate a lack of and indifference to cultural and æsthetic values. Since the 19th century, the contemporary denotation of philistinism, as the behaviour of ‘ignorant, ill-behaved persons lacking in culture or artistic appreciation, and only concerned with materialistic values.
I really love Cameron Crowe's movies.
People should appreciate all art forms.
(It's not you, it's peeps without a dictionary)
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I like the imagination this thread elicits and I respect HFD.
you don't like one movie? then you must be a philistine!
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regardless if anyone thinks this is a dumb idea or not, do you see anything morally or even legally wrong with doing this? I mean, who has the legal right to use someone's past real live performance and pass it off as current?
as a musician, I don't know how I'd feel about that possibility.
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you don't like one movie? then you must be a philistine!
:P
This whole topic raises many thought-provoking questions. The selfish side of me would get off on it (though I get even flow's comment about doing it from home - much why we don't see movies in the theatre but from our convenient little nest).
The other, more practical, side of me understands the ramifications - ethical, legal, etc. - and wonders how this would work if actually played out. Is it up to the estate?
Michael Jackson's family has released footage of him pre-death (a film too, if I recall correctly).
"Free as a Bird" was released via the Beatles' anthology series, based on lyrics Lennon wrote before he died.
I guess it's up to the family of the deceased, or based on any wishes they might've made while still alive...?
regardless if anyone thinks this is a dumb idea or not, do you see anything morally or even legally wrong with doing this? I mean, who has the legal right to use someone's past real live performance and pass it off as current?
as a musician, I don't know how I'd feel about that possibility.
Since a holograph is basically a 3D movie, I don't see anything morally wrong with it. As far as legal concerns, that would probably depend on whether or not consent of the deceased estate was necessary.
Interesting that Jim Morrison's name comes up a lot here. I would enjoy watching Morrison recite "Horse Latitudes".
HFD - I guess the legal right resides with the estate.
Morally - I don't see a problem here. I don't think anyone would be passing off this 'performance' as a real one. More like watching a movie, documentary, whatever.
I have a number of music/concert DVDs, some with dead performers. Would that be any different?
Is it any different than those ads that cut in dead stars, such as Brando or James Dean, in with 'the living'?
HFD - I guess the legal right resides with the estate.
Morally - I don't see a problem here. I don't think anyone would be passing off this 'performance' as a real one. More like watching a movie, documentary, whatever.
I have a number of music/concert DVDs, some with dead performers. Would that be any different?
Is it any different than those ads that cut in dead stars, such as Brando or James Dean, in with 'the living'?
yeah, after I posed the question, I realized it really would be not much different than me watching one of my Nirvana dvd's. I think it would actually be less weird that watching Ian Astbury play Jim Morrison live. Which I saw. Which was uncomfortable.
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as sacriledge as this may sound, all this talk about Jim Morrison made me realize: I've never seen one of their live dvd's. I think I need to get on that.
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I have no interests in that sort of ridiculous gimmick ... now I like what the who did where in 2 separate songs they incorporated video of Keith and John ... too me this was totally acceptable.
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as sacriledge as this may sound, all this talk about Jim Morrison made me realize: I've never seen one of their live dvd's. I think I need to get on that.
Although the dvds are good, Jim was on better behavior on these dvds. The real shows were the ones of him going off on a tangent (but he was also wasted). Unfortunately I've only read about these shows.
regardless if anyone thinks this is a dumb idea or not, do you see anything morally or even legally wrong with doing this? I mean, who has the legal right to use someone's past real live performance and pass it off as current?
as a musician, I don't know how I'd feel about that possibility.
Since a holograph is basically a 3D movie, I don't see anything morally wrong with it. As far as legal concerns, that would probably depend on whether or not consent of the deceased estate was necessary.
Interesting that Jim Morrison's name comes up a lot here. I would enjoy watching Morrison recite "Horse Latitudes".
as sacriledge as this may sound, all this talk about Jim Morrison made me realize: I've never seen one of their live dvd's. I think I need to get on that.
Although the dvds are good, Jim was on better behavior on these dvds. The real shows were the ones of him going off on a tangent (but he was also wasted). Unfortunately I've only read about these shows.
I've seen them once in SF in 1967. Sadly, I was too young to fully appreciate what I was seeing but it left a 'forever' imprint on me.
regardless if anyone thinks this is a dumb idea or not, do you see anything morally or even legally wrong with doing this? I mean, who has the legal right to use someone's past real live performance and pass it off as current?
as a musician, I don't know how I'd feel about that possibility.
Since a holograph is basically a 3D movie, I don't see anything morally wrong with it. As far as legal concerns, that would probably depend on whether or not consent of the deceased estate was necessary.
Interesting that Jim Morrison's name comes up a lot here. I would enjoy watching Morrison recite "Horse Latitudes".
How about Jim sitting on a stool all alone with a table next to him with a bottle of whiskey on it, and he just
recites the poetry recorded for An American Prayer?
Now THAT, i would go see!!!
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to not question your government is unpatriotic."
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Sounds silly but it would make me sad I guess, most especially sharing the stage
with band members who have enjoyed a long life.
I think I'll stick with listening to albums, watching old clips of them in their time
like documentaries.
I would probably be crying if I went to see something like this in concert.
I cried watching Miss Lisa and her Dad.
I agree for the most part Pandi. Then agian, I think how the doors wanted to tour the LA Woman album so
badly, but never got the chance. They could finally do so with HoloJim.
I don't know. I'm really torn about it and for the most part lean towards leaving the dead be.
Peace, Love.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
as sacriledge as this may sound, all this talk about Jim Morrison made me realize: I've never seen one of their live dvd's. I think I need to get on that.
Although the dvds are good, Jim was on better behavior on these dvds. The real shows were the ones of him going off on a tangent (but he was also wasted). Unfortunately I've only read about these shows.
I've seen them once in SF in 1967. Sadly, I was too young to fully appreciate what I was seeing but it left a 'forever' imprint on me.
yeah, after I posed the question, I realized it really would be not much different than me watching one of my Nirvana dvd's. I think it would actually be less weird that watching Ian Astbury play Jim Morrison live. Which I saw. Which was uncomfortable.
But you must say he did a good job. At least I think he did.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
as sacriledge as this may sound, all this talk about Jim Morrison made me realize: I've never seen one of their live dvd's. I think I need to get on that.
Although the dvds are good, Jim was on better behavior on these dvds. The real shows were the ones of him going off on a tangent (but he was also wasted). Unfortunately I've only read about these shows.
I've seen them once in SF in 1967. Sadly, I was too young to fully appreciate what I was seeing but it left a 'forever' imprint on me.
Both Jim's were on tangents. One of the members of The Beatles actually had a scuffle with one of the Jims.
(Jim as touring with them, one night they see him smacking a woman with a glass bottle, and the Beatles' couldn't let it happen. They never played near each other after that.)
yeah, after I posed the question, I realized it really would be not much different than me watching one of my Nirvana dvd's. I think it would actually be less weird that watching Ian Astbury play Jim Morrison live. Which I saw. Which was uncomfortable.
But you must say he did a good job. At least I think he did.
yeah, but I didn't know the intention was going to be Ian trying to be Jim. I thought he would bring his own flavor to it. This seemed like pathetic karaoke to me. He even fucking dressed like him. It was weird.
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I felt dirty going to watch Ian sing with the Doors as good as that was. Why in the world would I go to see a hologram when I can watch a dvd in the comfort of my own home and drink and smoke and make it feel real.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
You'd hear Jim talking about the Vietnam war in the year 2015AD.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
Nah, he'd be talking about our eventual end and breaking through to the other side.
I think I would pass on that and invest in more albums instead.
This was my first thought. I think Morrison is the only one i would go to see, but even that..... IDK. :?
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
That would be such a trippy thing to see. Damn... one could even put all your favs on stage at one time. Make a super, super band - Jim with Jimmy with Janis, etc. (an all J band???).
Definitely need to be in the right frame of mind to see that!
And one duet-ing with one's self? Wow.....
look up the video on youtube of Snoop Dogg and Tupac. I don't like rap at ALL, but that "duet" was something to see. and the hologram looks nothing like the princess lea "you're our only hope" hologram. Tupac looked like he was really there.
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you don't like one movie? then you must be a philistine!
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
as a musician, I don't know how I'd feel about that possibility.
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
This whole topic raises many thought-provoking questions. The selfish side of me would get off on it (though I get even flow's comment about doing it from home - much why we don't see movies in the theatre but from our convenient little nest).
The other, more practical, side of me understands the ramifications - ethical, legal, etc. - and wonders how this would work if actually played out. Is it up to the estate?
Michael Jackson's family has released footage of him pre-death (a film too, if I recall correctly).
"Free as a Bird" was released via the Beatles' anthology series, based on lyrics Lennon wrote before he died.
I guess it's up to the family of the deceased, or based on any wishes they might've made while still alive...?
Since a holograph is basically a 3D movie, I don't see anything morally wrong with it. As far as legal concerns, that would probably depend on whether or not consent of the deceased estate was necessary.
Interesting that Jim Morrison's name comes up a lot here. I would enjoy watching Morrison recite "Horse Latitudes".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy9Ipdvj7Ok
Oh, that would be something.
Morally - I don't see a problem here. I don't think anyone would be passing off this 'performance' as a real one. More like watching a movie, documentary, whatever.
I have a number of music/concert DVDs, some with dead performers. Would that be any different?
Is it any different than those ads that cut in dead stars, such as Brando or James Dean, in with 'the living'?
Oh yeah..... **goes off in dream world**
with band members who have enjoyed a long life.
I think I'll stick with listening to albums, watching old clips of them in their time
like documentaries.
I would probably be crying if I went to see something like this in concert.
I cried watching Miss Lisa and her Dad.
yeah, after I posed the question, I realized it really would be not much different than me watching one of my Nirvana dvd's. I think it would actually be less weird that watching Ian Astbury play Jim Morrison live. Which I saw. Which was uncomfortable.
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"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Although the dvds are good, Jim was on better behavior on these dvds. The real shows were the ones of him going off on a tangent (but he was also wasted). Unfortunately I've only read about these shows.
I would not go see Morrison. I would go to See Hendrix first.
Priorities with dead people. They don't have any time.
I've seen them once in SF in 1967. Sadly, I was too young to fully appreciate what I was seeing but it left a 'forever' imprint on me.
How about Jim sitting on a stool all alone with a table next to him with a bottle of whiskey on it, and he just
recites the poetry recorded for An American Prayer?
Now THAT, i would go see!!!
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
I agree for the most part Pandi. Then agian, I think how the doors wanted to tour the LA Woman album so
badly, but never got the chance. They could finally do so with HoloJim.
I don't know. I'm really torn about it and for the most part lean towards leaving the dead be.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
Oh, the lucky ones!!
But you must say he did a good job. At least I think he did.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
Both Jim's were on tangents. One of the members of The Beatles actually had a scuffle with one of the Jims.
(Jim as touring with them, one night they see him smacking a woman with a glass bottle, and the Beatles' couldn't let it happen. They never played near each other after that.)
yeah, but I didn't know the intention was going to be Ian trying to be Jim. I thought he would bring his own flavor to it. This seemed like pathetic karaoke to me. He even fucking dressed like him. It was weird.
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