Military tuition assistance cut

aerial
aerial Posts: 2,319
edited March 2013 in A Moving Train
http://www.woai.com/news/local/story/Military-tuition-assistance-another-casualty-of/ouEcijxw5UCbZ3kjzRdloA.cspx

SAN ANTONIO - The sequester spending cuts are taking their toll and no one is feeling them more than the military.

Active service military members in the Army, Navy and Marines will no longer get assistance to further their educations.

All three have suspended their programs until the nation's fiscal situation clears up.

At Fort Sam Houston, soldiers had until March 8 to apply for tuition assistance. Those who missed the deadline can no longer qualify.

Those currently receiving assistance will not have it renewed at the end of the semester.

Currently, 20 percent of the Army population at Fort Sam Houston receive tuition assistance.

A spokesman for Joint Base San Antonio said more than 24,000 members of the military based at Lackland Air Force Base, Randolph Air Force Base and Fort Sam Houston had been eligible for the program.

The Air Force has not made any announcement about its tuition assistance.



Congress gets paid for life yet our Military can't get an education.......Cut pay to those in Congress..... at least cut there benefits that we pay for......This is sic...
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I'd think you'd be happy... Congress has CUT SPENDING. Isn't that what you have been championing... Spending Cuts?
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  • Out of My Mind and Time
    Out of My Mind and Time Posts: 1,333
    Cosmo wrote:
    I'd think you'd be happy... Congress has CUT SPENDING. Isn't that what you have been championing... Spending Cuts?


    I also heard from a returning vet that they revoked his conceal and carry and do not allow any purchase of guns. Every returning soldier considered a domestic terrorist.


    Things are turning very weird lately :fp:
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Out of My Mind and Time wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    I'd think you'd be happy... Congress has CUT SPENDING. Isn't that what you have been championing... Spending Cuts?


    I also heard from a returning vet that they revoked his conceal and carry and do not allow any purchase of guns. Every returning soldier considered a domestic terrorist.


    Things are turning very weird lately :fp:
    ...
    I work with active service as well as veterans... this is a new one on me.
    I'll check around.
    ...
    Also... To address the original poster... This is part of the thing that Conservative Republicans argue against.

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — Agency: Veterans Affairs
    Spending: $137.4 billion
    Percentage Change from 2012: 10.6 percent increase
    Discretionary Spending: $61 billion

    Highlights: Obama’s budget reflects the growing number of veterans who will need health care through the VA. The budget projects that about 610,000 veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars will get health care through VA’s hospitals and clinics this fiscal year. The budget seeks spending increases for virtually all health services provided, including a 5 percent increase for mental health services, which has become a top priority among congressional oversight committees, and a double-digit increase for health programs designed to assist female veterans.

    The budget also proposes $1 billion over five years for a Veterans Jobs Corps, a new initiative that would put veterans to work rebuilding roads, trails and other infrastructure on public lands.

    The budget seeks a 33 percent increase in spending to combat homelessness among veterans. The administration has set a goal of eliminating homelessness among veterans by 2015. The money would be used to hire coordinators who will help veterans with disability claims, housing problems and other needs. Additional money would be provided to non-profits that help house veterans and their families.

    Obama also is seeking more money to deal with the growing number of disability claims that the department is getting from veterans. Veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan are filing claims that include about 8.5 disabilities per veteran, a rate nearly double that for claims from veterans of previous wars."

    If you want to complain to someone, start with Rep. Bohner. He's the one that did not want to discuss anything on the cutting board.
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    I blame them all.....There all self serving and could care less about the U.S. citizens.....they can't relate to the average person.....We pay for everything for them......
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    I blame them all.....There all self serving and could care less about the U.S. citizens.....they can't relate to the average person.....We pay for everything for them......
    ...
    You forgot... WE hire them.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Maybe this will keep some percentage of people from joining the military. Less soldiers equals less ability to make war.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Cosmo wrote:
    If you want to complain to someone, start with Rep. Bohner. He's the one that did not want to discuss anything on the cutting board.


    didn't the republicans offer Obama the ability to make all the decisions on the cuts?

    wouldn't have been any discussions then, President Obama could have made the cuts where he saw fit.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Yea and he better not take anymore golf trips...
    I wonder what Michelle and her buds got planned on my dollar, maybe Paris?
    and I was just thinking about a tour of my country's White House ... damn....
    who would have thunk it.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,741
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    If you want to complain to someone, start with Rep. Bohner. He's the one that did not want to discuss anything on the cutting board.


    didn't the republicans offer Obama the ability to make all the decisions on the cuts?

    wouldn't have been any discussions then, President Obama could have made the cuts where he saw fit.
    there was a catch to that. i don't remember what it was, but there was a political pitfall for obama.

    do you really think the republicans would offer that power to obama unconditionally?

    they have fought him tooth and nail on everything, even the things that they themselves originally came up with, voted on, and passed, only to withdraw support when obama agreed with them that it was a good idea or good for the country.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,951
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    there was a political pitfall for obama.


    And that is the root of the problem. Both sides worried more about "political pitfall" then the country they have been elected and PAID to serve.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I think I heard something about Lockheed recently.
    It will be the little folk suffering no matter what.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,649
    People want the budget cut, so what are they expecting? Budget cuts that don't effect anyone?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,951
    Go Beavers wrote:
    People want the budget cut, so what are they expecting? Budget cuts that don't effect anyone?

    I'm fine with budget cuts. I'm not fine with the people in charge of making those cuts basically not making a decision on what gets cut and what doesn't.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,649
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    People want the budget cut, so what are they expecting? Budget cuts that don't effect anyone?

    I'm fine with budget cuts. I'm not fine with the people in charge of making those cuts basically not making a decision on what gets cut and what doesn't.

    Maybe they're responding to constituents who don't want to be effected by the cuts? They're aren't many fields where if a person does their job, there's a big risk of losing that job.
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    If you want to complain to someone, start with Rep. Bohner. He's the one that did not want to discuss anything on the cutting board.


    didn't the republicans offer Obama the ability to make all the decisions on the cuts?

    wouldn't have been any discussions then, President Obama could have made the cuts where he saw fit.
    there was a catch to that. i don't remember what it was, but there was a political pitfall for obama.

    do you really think the republicans would offer that power to obama unconditionally?

    they have fought him tooth and nail on everything, even the things that they themselves originally came up with, voted on, and passed, only to withdraw support when obama agreed with them that it was a good idea or good for the country.

    The only catch is that he would be the one making the choice on where to cut as far as I know. Which is a political pitfall all its own. But there both sides are again, playing political games while Rome is burning. He should have taken it and cut spending where he wanted it cut. Pitfalls or not, the president doesn't get that power ever and he could have made some solid tough choices to cut 85 billion out of 3.7 trillion.
    Go Beavers wrote:
    People want the budget cut, so what are they expecting? Budget cuts that don't effect anyone?

    exactly. This shit has to happen, tuition assistance is great WHEN WE CAN AFFORD IT. Things have to go...non-essential programs have to be cut down while we get our budget in order.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,741
    Go Beavers wrote:
    People want the budget cut, so what are they expecting? Budget cuts that don't effect anyone?
    everyone wants budget cuts, unless it will directly impact them.

    refer to the gop wanting to repeal obamacare and cut medicare and medicaid. they or their family members will never need those programs directly, so gut em, right?


    you can't call for across the board spending cuts and then bitch when cuts are made.

    i agree with what someone said above about this maybe keeping people from enlisting. smaller military makes it more difficult to wage war. if you cut education funding you disincentivize people from joining.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,069
    Something lost here is that service members who wish to take advantage of this program pay some into it as well , with (exceding) matching funds from their respective branch. This amount was also increased after 9/11 due to the extended deployments.
    When I was in, 25 years ago this october , we were given to one chance option during bootcamp.
    I have yet to hear from my company about this, as we have a vets program that vets can take advantage of.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    If you want to complain to someone, start with Rep. Bohner. He's the one that did not want to discuss anything on the cutting board.
    didn't the republicans offer Obama the ability to make all the decisions on the cuts?

    wouldn't have been any discussions then, President Obama could have made the cuts where he saw fit.
    ...
    I'm going to have to look that one up.
    But, the political climate, as it exists today... does anyone see the John Bohner lead House giving any omnipotent powers over budget spending cuts to the President? I heard Bohner doesn't care much for the President.
    ...
    If you have any references, I'd appreciate them... i'm feeling kinda lazy today.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,069
    Cosmo wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    If you want to complain to someone, start with Rep. Bohner. He's the one that did not want to discuss anything on the cutting board.
    didn't the republicans offer Obama the ability to make all the decisions on the cuts?

    wouldn't have been any discussions then, President Obama could have made the cuts where he saw fit.
    ...
    I'm going to have to look that one up.
    But, the political climate, as it exists today... does anyone see the John Bohner lead House giving any omnipotent powers over budget spending cuts to the President? I heard Bohner doesn't care much for the President.
    ...
    If you have any references, I'd appreciate them... i'm feeling kinda lazy today.
    I dont think it included the closing of tax loopholes like the Pres has been stumping on.

    Note , I am in no way well versed in all the theater. Kind of a shameful turnoff for me.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    pandora wrote:
    I think I heard something about Lockheed recently.
    It will be the little folk suffering no matter what.
    ...
    Yes... poor little Mom and Pop Aerospace Giant Lockheed/Martin. What ever are they going to do without taxpayer contracts to make military hardware to fight a conventional war in Europe with the non-existant Soviet Union? Poor little multi-billion dollar Lockheed/Martin.
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