Porch vs Porch

oona left · March 2013

Johnny Aggro wrote:

Which is better.. the beers you drank underage at a house party where u scored a girl for the first time or a fine wine chilling on the penthouse floor of a buddys apt with ur wife and friends?

You cant compare them. They both have their place in the river of time. Each unique. Each special for their own reasons.

Wonderful perspective. Very well put!

evenflow82 · March 2013

Porch has never been the same since Dave A. left.

End of discussion.

papa_pearls_jam.pj20 · March 2013

carly316 wrote:

I really miss the young energy and "new-ness" of the Pink Pop version but I just love how in sync they are as a band in the '09 version. I like how they've matured and they all just have such raw talent. McMelty definitely fucking kills it in '09! It's awesome how him and Stone just feed off of each other. Nothing against the drummers before him but there's just something about Matt that kicks it up a notch, too. And Jeff, he just kicks ass then and now! Best bassist, in my book. It's actually nice to see Ed more calm in the '09 version - not so overwhelmed by the hype of it all. I'm going with '09 this time around.

I really miss threads where someone other than the OP can have an opinion without the OP trying to argue for the OP's "way or the highway".
:nono:

Big Bank Hank · March 2013

papa_pearls_jam.pj20 wrote:

carly316 wrote:

I really miss the young energy and "new-ness" of the Pink Pop version but I just love how in sync they are as a band in the '09 version. I like how they've matured and they all just have such raw talent. McMelty definitely fucking kills it in '09! It's awesome how him and Stone just feed off of each other. Nothing against the drummers before him but there's just something about Matt that kicks it up a notch, too. And Jeff, he just kicks ass then and now! Best bassist, in my book. It's actually nice to see Ed more calm in the '09 version - not so overwhelmed by the hype of it all. I'm going with '09 this time around.

I really miss threads where someone other than the OP can have an opinion without the OP trying to argue for the OP's "way or the highway".
:nono:

anybody can have an opinion but how can they be fair when the thread is which performance is better, and you don't even check either one out, then I am not sure how it qualifies that person to have an opinion, there have been several people who liked the 92 version better, and even though I may disagree, the fact that they actually took the time to form that opinion based on watch both video I have to respect that opinion, and if that is too difficult a criteria to actually watch both performances, then go create your own thread that is whatever topic you want to talk about, but this thread is which of the two performances is better, if that is too difficult a challenge to have an opinion, well there are plenty of people in here who it wasn't too difficult for and those are the people this thread is for

papa_pearls_jam.pj20 · March 2013

Big Bank Hank wrote:

papa_pearls_jam.pj20 wrote:

carly316 wrote:

I really miss the young energy and "new-ness" of the Pink Pop version but I just love how in sync they are as a band in the '09 version. I like how they've matured and they all just have such raw talent. McMelty definitely fucking kills it in '09! It's awesome how him and Stone just feed off of each other. Nothing against the drummers before him but there's just something about Matt that kicks it up a notch, too. And Jeff, he just kicks ass then and now! Best bassist, in my book. It's actually nice to see Ed more calm in the '09 version - not so overwhelmed by the hype of it all. I'm going with '09 this time around.

I really miss threads where someone other than the OP can have an opinion without the OP trying to argue for the OP's "way or the highway".
:nono:

anybody can have an opinion but how can they be fair when the thread is which performance is better, and you don't even check either one out, then I am not sure how it qualifies that person to have an opinion, there have been several people who liked the 92 version better, and even though I may disagree, the fact that they actually took the time to form that opinion based on watch both video I have to respect that opinion, and if that is too difficult a criteria to actually watch both performances, then go create your own thread that is whatever topic you want to talk about, but this thread is which of the two performances is better, if that is too difficult a challenge to have an opinion, well there are plenty of people in here who it wasn't too difficult for and those are the people this thread is for

:nono:

Big Bank Hank · March 2013

you aren't even making any sense :fp:

Black73 · March 2013

Although the '09 version is a very solid performance, and it was my favorite song they performed at ACL, I have to go with the '92 performance. The raw emotion that Eddie displays while running around the stage, jumping on/over amps, and jumping off the camera boom are unparalleled IMHO. Even though I've seen a lot of emotion in the shows I've attended, I have not seen as much as has been displayed in their early shows.

mca47 · March 2013

Old Porch is def better than Porch these days. That said...it is pretty interesting to see the transition of this song over the years. It was completely energetic and crazy back in the day and they rocked the shit out of it. It then (IMO) seemed to kind of go down hill from the late 90's until the late '00's. Not bad, just kind of stale (see Even Flow...).
I think since 2010 it has gotten better.

While not AS good, it's different and it is still one of those songs from the early days that is incredibly bad-ass live! It really has aged well compared to others from the early days.

Big Bank Hank · March 2013

mca47 wrote:

Old Porch is def better than Porch these days. That said...it is pretty interesting to see the transition of this song over the years. It was completely energetic and crazy back in the day and they rocked the shit out of it. It then (IMO) seemed to kind of go down hill from the late 90's until the late '00's. Not bad, just kind of stale (see Even Flow...).
I think since 2010 it has gotten better.

While not AS good, it's different and it is still one of those songs from the early days that is incredibly bad-ass live! It really has aged well compared to others from the early days.

I agree, and especially about Even Flow, I have gotten really burned out on that song

63schoefflin · March 2013

That 92 performance is one of the first 2 or 3 videos I show people who aren't familiar with Pearl Jam. To be at a show like that back in the day I would give everything. While they are tighter today...damn that intensity can't be matched by many. Gets me every time.

goldrush · March 2013

I prefer the 09 video for a few reasons. Whilst I loved the 92 Porch (and was fortunate enough to see Porch live in 93) the 09 performance was tighter. I get why people say that they love the intensity of the earlier version but I'd take performance over attitude anyday.

The interplay between the guys is much better now, it just shows that you don't need to be bouncing all over the stage for it to be a great performance. As others have said before, Mike, Stone and Jeff are better musicians now and I prefer Matt to Dave.

And if I had to choose which video I would rather be in - I'd take standing a few feet away from a performance like this at ACL over being kicked in the head by a flying Eddie in a sweaty pit any day of the week!

Big Bank Hank · March 2013

goldrush wrote:

I prefer the 09 video for a few reasons. Whilst I loved the 92 Porch (and was fortunate enough to see Porch live in 93) the 09 performance was tighter. I get why people say that they love the intensity of the earlier version but I'd take performance over attitude anyday.

The interplay between the guys is much better now, it just shows that you don't need to be bouncing all over the stage for it to be a great performance. As others have said before, Mike, Stone and Jeff are better musicians now and I prefer Matt to Dave.

And if I had to choose which video I would rather be in - I'd take standing a few feet away from a performance like this at ACL over being kicked in the head by a flying Eddie in a sweaty pit any day of the week!

thank you on the Matt over Dave, Dave was a sloppy drummer in the sense he was always playing over Eddie's vocals, you hear Eddie much more clearly now and the band is so much better without him

stardust1976 · March 2013

I don't really see how you can compare them.

Neither one is better or worse than the other - they are two completely different performances done at different times in the band's life.

Both have energy and merit of their own. One is a performance given by a band who were just starting out, young, full of adrenaline and a pretty new song. The other is a performance by a seasoned band who have played together thousands of times, probably nowhere near the adrenaline flowing and a song that they have played countless times previously.

I like them both equally for different reasons.

Black73 · March 2013

Big Bank Hank wrote:

goldrush wrote:

I prefer the 09 video for a few reasons. Whilst I loved the 92 Porch (and was fortunate enough to see Porch live in 93) the 09 performance was tighter. I get why people say that they love the intensity of the earlier version but I'd take performance over attitude anyday.

The interplay between the guys is much better now, it just shows that you don't need to be bouncing all over the stage for it to be a great performance. As others have said before, Mike, Stone and Jeff are better musicians now and I prefer Matt to Dave.

And if I had to choose which video I would rather be in - I'd take standing a few feet away from a performance like this at ACL over being kicked in the head by a flying Eddie in a sweaty pit any day of the week!

thank you on the Matt over Dave, Dave was a sloppy drummer in the sense he was always playing over Eddie's vocals, you hear Eddie much more clearly now and the band is so much better without him

I respect your opinion, but disagree Dave was a sloppy drummer (always playing over Eddie's vocals) & that they are so much better without Dave. They are different...I like Matt's playing style, which may better compliment Eddie's vocals, but I personally do not care for Matt's backing vocals. As an oldster (yeah, I've aged with PJ from the early days), Dave's playing style compliments that time in my life very well, and I'm sentimental to his style, the band's emotion, so on. Matt rocks, Dave rocked = different but not better IMHO.

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