Meteor injures hundreds in Russia

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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Love the info posts here... thanks!
    I wonder if we get NASA tv channel... live stream of Asteroid 2012DA14 passing 17,000
    miles close to Earth at 7pm tonight ... sounds like a party! :D

    http://www.wrexham.com/news/asteroid-du ... 29002.html
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    A scary thing to think about...
    Be happy this didn't happen in 1983. It could have been mistaken as a first strike attack and triggered the Soviet Union to launch its ballistic missiles at us.... which in turn, would have automatically triggered a U.S. response.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • guypjfreak
    guypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    The footage is crazy!! A bigger one or a big asteroid hitting the earth is a prospect that scares the shit out of me, however remote the possibility! If I'd seen that thing streaking across the sky like that in person, I might have died of a heart attack. :oops:
    i agree the footage IS mad i watch the first bit at about 8.30 this morning and thought wow how the F do you JUST happen to catch that on your phone ..............any way went to hospital picked up my gran daughter came home popped the news on RT NEWS and something that got my attention was how much captured was caught by people in cars until the presenter explained that in Russia they fit cameras in to there cars abit like the cyclists do nowadays on there helmets .....mad ah great idea .
    and now we have the big one going past us as we write ........where we are we should be able to see that one at about 9 30 .....good day for the space watchers :D
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    guypjfreak wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    The footage is crazy!! A bigger one or a big asteroid hitting the earth is a prospect that scares the shit out of me, however remote the possibility! If I'd seen that thing streaking across the sky like that in person, I might have died of a heart attack. :oops:
    i agree the footage IS mad i watch the first bit at about 8.30 this morning and thought wow how the F do you JUST happen to catch that on your phone ..............any way went to hospital picked up my gran daughter came home popped the news on RT NEWS and something that got my attention was how much captured was caught by people in cars until the presenter explained that in Russia they fit cameras in to there cars abit like the cyclists do nowadays on there helmets .....mad ah great idea .
    and now we have the big one going past us as we write ........where we are we should be able to see that one at about 9 30 .....good day for the space watchers :D
    This is the reason they now fit all the cars with cameras in Russia:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEVC15GzvE8

    :fp:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Guitar92player
    Guitar92player Posts: 664
    I just now saw this on the news! Crazy stuff!!

    If I was there I would've assumed it was a missile and been freaked out.
    ~Carter~

    You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
    or you can come to terms and realize
    you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
    makes much more sense to live in the present tense     - Present Tense
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    guypjfreak wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    The footage is crazy!! A bigger one or a big asteroid hitting the earth is a prospect that scares the shit out of me, however remote the possibility! If I'd seen that thing streaking across the sky like that in person, I might have died of a heart attack. :oops:
    i agree the footage IS mad i watch the first bit at about 8.30 this morning and thought wow how the F do you JUST happen to catch that on your phone ..............any way went to hospital picked up my gran daughter came home popped the news on RT NEWS and something that got my attention was how much captured was caught by people in cars until the presenter explained that in Russia they fit cameras in to there cars abit like the cyclists do nowadays on there helmets .....mad ah great idea .
    and now we have the big one going past us as we write ........where we are we should be able to see that one at about 9 30 .....good day for the space watchers :D
    This is the reason they now fit all the cars with cameras in Russia:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEVC15GzvE8

    :fp:

    And here I thought Asian so-cal drivers were the worst..... :fp: :corn:
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    I would have pooped my pants if I had witnessed this.

    But the real hidden gem is that I have discovered the awesomeness of Russian car cams and the country's army of crappy drivers!!!

    :mrgreen:

    Enjoy this link ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itMdLTd1l4E
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Jason P wrote:
    I would have pooped my pants if I had witnessed this.

    But the real hidden gem is that I have discovered the awesomeness of Russian car cams and the country's army of crappy drivers!!!

    :mrgreen:

    Enjoy this link ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itMdLTd1l4E
    Isn't it great? :lol:
    The helicopter. :lol::lol:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Cosmo wrote:
    The videos are spectacular.
    ...
    The thing I thought about... if this were 500 years ago, it would have been seen as a 'Sign From God' from most of the people of the planet.
    Today, we know what it is... a big ass rock moving within the confines of the laws of physics in our universe.

    Just imagine what we'll know and think about it 500 years from now.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    know1 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    The videos are spectacular.
    ...
    The thing I thought about... if this were 500 years ago, it would have been seen as a 'Sign From God' from most of the people of the planet.
    Today, we know what it is... a big ass rock moving within the confines of the laws of physics in our universe.

    Just imagine what we'll know and think about it 500 years from now.
    ...
    Agree... we will know many new things. But, we will still know that a meteor is still not a sign from God and simply a big ass rock moving within the confines of the laws of physics in our universe.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Cosmo wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    The videos are spectacular.
    ...
    The thing I thought about... if this were 500 years ago, it would have been seen as a 'Sign From God' from most of the people of the planet.
    Today, we know what it is... a big ass rock moving within the confines of the laws of physics in our universe.

    Just imagine what we'll know and think about it 500 years from now.
    ...
    Agree... we will know many new things. But, we will still know that a meteor is still not a sign from God and simply a big ass rock moving within the confines of the laws of physics in our universe.

    I'm not as confident in that as you are. I think "science's" theories will change a ton over that time period.

    We can look at the past to see evidence of that.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    know1 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Just imagine what we'll know and think about it 500 years from now.
    ...
    Agree... we will know many new things. But, we will still know that a meteor is still not a sign from God and simply a big ass rock moving within the confines of the laws of physics in our universe.

    I'm not as confident in that as you are. I think "science's" theories will change a ton over that time period.

    We can look at the past to see evidence of that.
    Sometimes the facts are discovered, and that's that. Like, once they figured out the Earth is round, it's not like we kept on developing our views on the matter. They figured it out, and now we're done. We get it. I see no reason why people would view a meteor entering the atmosphere any differently in 500 years, except maybe by then they will have been able to stop it before it got there. I don't really understand what you think would happen to people's perceptions at this point to change anything unless you think we will all fall back into the dark ages by then, and regress to thinking it's some kind of omen from the gods again.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    know1 wrote:
    I'm not as confident in that as you are. I think "science's" theories will change a ton over that time period.

    We can look at the past to see evidence of that.
    ...
    That was sort of the point of my original statement.
    And i agree with you, Science will change its theories as new evidence is discovered. Religion, on the other hand, will never change its doctrine.
    I also agree with your statement about looking back to see evidence. In looking back 500 years, we see that the Church was in charge of the State and therefore in charge of 'science'. That is how science was forced to explain the geocentric model of the Universe... or risk losing you head over it... literally. The Church placed the Earth at the center of the Universe because Man was the center of God's focus.
    Science proved otherwise, despite the threat of death from the Church.
    That is why a meteor was a sign from God 500 years ago... but today (thanx to Science) we know it is just one of the trillions of giant bolder, meandering in the confines of our Universe.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Cosmo wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I'm not as confident in that as you are. I think "science's" theories will change a ton over that time period.

    We can look at the past to see evidence of that.
    ...
    That was sort of the point of my original statement.
    And i agree with you, Science will change its theories as new evidence is discovered. Religion, on the other hand, will never change its doctrine.
    I also agree with your statement about looking back to see evidence. In looking back 500 years, we see that the Church was in charge of the State and therefore in charge of 'science'. That is how science was forced to explain the geocentric model of the Universe... or risk losing you head over it... literally. The Church placed the Earth at the center of the Universe because Man was the center of God's focus.
    Science proved otherwise, despite the threat of death from the Church.
    That is why a meteor was a sign from God 500 years ago... but today (thanx to Science) we know it is just one of the trillions of giant bolder, meandering in the confines of our Universe.

    I think it takes as much faith to believe in science as it does to believe in God. Maybe more.

    And I disagree with the comment in your earlier post that religion stays the same. I've witnessed quite an evolution in religion in my life. The church I attend now is nothing like the one I was brought up in and its kind didn't exist or at least wasn't very common then.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    know1 wrote:
    I think it takes as much faith to believe in science as it does to believe in God. Maybe more.

    And I disagree with the comment in your earlier post that religion stays the same. I've witnessed quite an evolution in religion in my life. The church I attend now is nothing like the one I was brought up in and its kind didn't exist or at least wasn't very common then.
    ...
    The difference between the two, Science looks for anwsers... Religion believes it already KNOWS the answers. Ask many religious people... they will tell you they already know. That is the basis of religion... belief and knowledge are one in the same.
    And i agree... that people with religious beliefs evolve as Science provides answers... such as the Earth being older than 6,000 years, woman was not fabricated from a rib bone on a man and that snakes don't really talk to people and, probably, never did. It does not mean the core foundations of religious issues such as Creation has changed in the Religious doctrine... rather, people have evolved their thinking to fit in a world where Science continues to ask questions and provides answers... where answers are not written in stone and will change as more truth is revealed.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Cosmo wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I think it takes as much faith to believe in science as it does to believe in God. Maybe more.

    And I disagree with the comment in your earlier post that religion stays the same. I've witnessed quite an evolution in religion in my life. The church I attend now is nothing like the one I was brought up in and its kind didn't exist or at least wasn't very common then.
    ...
    The difference between the two, Science looks for anwsers... Religion believes it already KNOWS the answers. Ask many religious people... they will tell you they already know. That is the basis of religion... belief and knowledge are one in the same.
    And i agree... that people with religious beliefs evolve as Science provides answers... such as the Earth being older than 6,000 years, woman was not fabricated from a rib bone on a man and that snakes don't really talk to people and, probably, never did. It does not mean the core foundations of religious issues such as Creation has changed in the Religious doctrine... rather, people have evolved their thinking to fit in a world where Science continues to ask questions and provides answers... where answers are not written in stone and will change as more truth is revealed.

    So basically, you're saying that science doesn't really have any true answers, but rather that it is continually seeking more knowledge?

    If so, I agree with that and it's what I've been saying for years. People put a lot of faith in science when true science should never say that its answers are absolute. In other words, people are believing in something that says itself that it doesn't know.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    know1 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I think it takes as much faith to believe in science as it does to believe in God. Maybe more.

    And I disagree with the comment in your earlier post that religion stays the same. I've witnessed quite an evolution in religion in my life. The church I attend now is nothing like the one I was brought up in and its kind didn't exist or at least wasn't very common then.
    ...
    The difference between the two, Science looks for anwsers... Religion believes it already KNOWS the answers. Ask many religious people... they will tell you they already know. That is the basis of religion... belief and knowledge are one in the same.
    And i agree... that people with religious beliefs evolve as Science provides answers... such as the Earth being older than 6,000 years, woman was not fabricated from a rib bone on a man and that snakes don't really talk to people and, probably, never did. It does not mean the core foundations of religious issues such as Creation has changed in the Religious doctrine... rather, people have evolved their thinking to fit in a world where Science continues to ask questions and provides answers... where answers are not written in stone and will change as more truth is revealed.

    So basically, you're saying that science doesn't really have any true answers, but rather that it is continually seeking more knowledge?

    If so, I agree with that and it's what I've been saying for years. People put a lot of faith in science when true science should never say that its answers are absolute. In other words, people are believing in something that says itself that it doesn't know.
    Actually, science has produced a lot of actual answers.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • whgarrett
    whgarrett Posts: 574
    Let me just say first off that I am much more of a scientific than a religious. It does however make me laugh when people boast about what WE "KNOW" due to science. Science is not an answer. It is an endless question. If 90% of the Universe is unaccounted for.....a mystery. Why is intelligent design looked down upon so often?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    whgarrett wrote:
    Let me just say first off that I am much more of a scientific than a religious. It does however make me laugh when people boast about what WE "KNOW" due to science. Science is not an answer. It is an endless question. If 90% of the Universe is unaccounted for.....a mystery. Why is intelligent design looked down upon so often?
    Science isn't something that necessarily has answered all things, but not because it can't. Only because humans haven't managed to make it answer all things. And we do KNOW many things due to science. Just because we don't know most stuff yet doesn't mean that we don't know some stuff, nor does it mean that it COULDN'T answer all things, if only we could figure it out. Science is TRUTH. That doesn't change just because we don't know through science what the truth is yet. The truth is attainable through science - just not by us.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • whgarrett
    whgarrett Posts: 574
    Science is an educated guess. A hypothesis. And is always treated so until otherwise proven wrong. Oh yeah....it is merely OUR truth.

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