Meteor injures hundreds in Russia

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  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    I'm just trying to figure out where I fit in between the alpha and omega. Science helps me, but where it stumbles, spirituality picks up the slack. :D
  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    My belt just broke. It must be a sign. :lol:
  • rollingsrollings Posts: 7,124
    whgarrett wrote:
    I'm just trying to figure out where I fit in between the alpha and omega. Science helps me, but where it stumbles, spirituality picks up the slack. :D
    whgarrett wrote:
    My belt just broke. It must be a sign. :lol:

    :lol: need a new bible belt?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited March 2013
    whgarrett wrote:
    I'm just trying to figure out where I fit in between the alpha and omega. Science helps me, but where it stumbles, spirituality picks up the slack. :D
    ...
    I think you fall within the range of most people.
    I think people might feel that you can't have science and religion at the same time... but, I believe you can. They don't cancel out each other. Like, you can still be religious and understand the theory of Evolution... only because the story as told in the Bible... which was written by Man... taken from stories and tales... from the Neolithic Age... cannot offer any proof. It's still a nice story that teaches lessons in life that we can apply to our current day human experience. But, literally, it does not hold up today... based on what we have learned since our days as latter day cavemen.
    We live in a physical universe, but are spiritual beings.
    Post edited by Cosmo on
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  • whgarrettwhgarrett Posts: 574
    word
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,958
    know1 wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    know1 wrote:

    Science is absolutely not truth. In fact, it's the opposite of it.

    Science leaves open the possibility that new evidence tomorrow could totally overthrow what we think we know today.

    That's why I find it interesting that people put faith in something that maintains a position that it will always be seeking more answers.

    And it is exactly an educated guess as someone said above.

    Let me guess, you don't believe in climate science, do you. So if science doesn't ascertain your beliefs, than you can claim that it's all hogwash. Uh-huh.

    That's totally not what I'm saying.

    I'm saying that science does not call itself infallible, so why do people put so much faith in it.

    Science acknowledges that any of its conclusions could be overturned tomorrow with new evidence/observations.
    Not any of them. There are a LOT of conclusions that NO scientist would ever suggest might be overturned with new evidence or observations.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Cosmo wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Proof is a man-made convention anyway.
    ...
    And so is the concept of God.
    So, it's a wash, right?

    Again - not sure where that came from. I guess I'm not good at making my point because I think you and I think more alike than different about the science, but you keep bringing in concepts that are extraneous to the discussion.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Not any of them. There are a LOT of conclusions that NO scientist would ever suggest might be overturned with new evidence or observations.

    Then they aren't good scientists because science should be open to new theories given new evidence.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Cosmo wrote:
    whgarrett wrote:
    I'm just trying to figure out where I fit in between the alpha and omega. Science helps me, but where it stumbles, spirituality picks up the slack. :D
    ...
    I think you fall within the range of most people.
    I think people might feel that you can't have science and religion at the same time... but, I believe you can. They don't cancel out each other. Like, you can still be religious and understand the theory of Evolution... only because the story as told in the Bible... which was written by Man... taken from stories and tales... from the Neolithic Age... cannot offer any proof. It's still a nice story that teaches lessons in life that we can apply to our current day human experience. But, literally, it does not hold up today... based on what we have learned since our days as latter day cavemen.
    We live in a physical universe, but are spiritual beings.

    I totally think you can have science and religion at the same time.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    know1 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Proof is a man-made convention anyway.
    ...
    And so is the concept of God.
    So, it's a wash, right?

    Again - not sure where that came from. I guess I'm not good at making my point because I think you and I think more alike than different about the science, but you keep bringing in concepts that are extraneous to the discussion.
    ...
    I think we both agree on that scientific knowledge and religious belief can coexist in our lives.
    I just don't agree with you assessment that science is a concept that provides no true answers. We both agree that it if we jump... we will come back down, right? Science explains that to us as gravity. That is the answer to the question, 'Why do we come back down after we jump up?' Answer: Gravity.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,958
    know1 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    whgarrett wrote:
    I'm just trying to figure out where I fit in between the alpha and omega. Science helps me, but where it stumbles, spirituality picks up the slack. :D
    ...
    I think you fall within the range of most people.
    I think people might feel that you can't have science and religion at the same time... but, I believe you can. They don't cancel out each other. Like, you can still be religious and understand the theory of Evolution... only because the story as told in the Bible... which was written by Man... taken from stories and tales... from the Neolithic Age... cannot offer any proof. It's still a nice story that teaches lessons in life that we can apply to our current day human experience. But, literally, it does not hold up today... based on what we have learned since our days as latter day cavemen.
    We live in a physical universe, but are spiritual beings.

    I totally think you can have science and religion at the same time.
    Of course, as long as you aren't a fundamentalist.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    A link to cool photos taken from space of the meteor entering the atmosphere taken from Meteosat Second Generation satellites (the ultimate dash cam)

    http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-meteor-hitting-earth-from-space-2013-7
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