out of touch republicans

chadwick · February 2013

http://youtu.be/Wjr-YWsP430
rush limbaugh on women voting
this fucking prick is a useless fat tub of crap. why can't he just vanish like tomorrow or something?

Bentleyspop · February 2013

chadwick wrote:

http://youtu.be/Wjr-YWsP430
rush limbaugh on women voting
this fucking prick is a useless fat tub of crap. why can't he just vanish like tomorrow or something?

But the regressives need a leader to tell them what to think and say and believe

Besides if Rush is gone who will we have to remind us how smart we are??

JimmyV · February 2013

Rand Paul on foreign policy does not impress, film at 11.

http://cfif.org/v/freedom_line_blog/171 ... paragraph/

Here’s the passage at issue:

"In the 1980s, the war caucus in Congress armed bin Laden and the mujaheddin in their fight with the Soviet Union. In fact, it was the official position of the State Department to support radical jihad against the Soviets. We all know how well that worked out."

Let’s leave aside for now the insulting, utterly asinine, sickening, inexcusable use of the phrase “war caucus” to describe those (including Reagan!) who supported the mujaheddin against the Soviets. That word choice alone is almost entirely disqualifying for its purveyor to ever be president.

Instead, let’s just look at a little history here — because the ignorance evident in this paragraph is truly astonishing. One would be hard pressed to find even a single historian, whether right, left, or center, who would argue anything other than that the Soviet failure in Afghanistan was not just a huge factor, but probably an essential one, in the Soviets’ ultimate loss of the Cold War. The mujaheddin did much to help bleed the Soviets dry, at a comparatively negligible cost to the United States (for smuggled military hardware and some intelligence). “We all know how well that worked out,” said Sen. Paul, dismissively, of the work of our “war caucus” to support the mujaheddin. Yes, we do: It played a key role in helping us win the Cold War. Anybody who doesn’t understand that is either foolish or invincibly ignorant.

Second, it is a myth that the United States “armed bin Laden.” False, false, false. It is also a falsehood to say that bin Laden was a major player within the mujeheddin or in the anti-Soviet war effort at all. Finally, it is false even to say that the Afghani effort against the Soviets was primarily, or even largely, about “jihad.” It was a defensive effort against armed invaders, not an offensive effort by “radicals” in the name of Allah. Sure, there were religious aspects to the motivations of the mujaheddin, who of course considered the Soviets to be “infidels,” but to say that the primary goal was to expand the reach of the Prophet is so absurd as to be laughable. The Afghani defense against the Soviets was, in truth, as close to being a nationalist, patriotic war as the diverse tribes of Afghanistan are ever likely to be involved in.

So every element of Sen. Paul’s paragraph was wrong: 1) Reagan was not the head of a “war caucus.” 2) The U.S. did not arm bin Laden. 3) The U.S. support had nothing to do with “radical jihad.” 4) The Afghani/mujaheddin effort as a whole was only tangentially jihadist. And 5) The war in Afghanistan that kicked out the Soviets worked out not badly, but very, very well for the United States, for the Western world, and for the hundreds of millions of people freed from behind the Iron Curtain and for millions elsewhere whose “non-aligned states” were freed from fear of the Soviets and thus could move more towards free markets and towards Western prosperity.

Finally, as a post-script, most knowledgeable people would argue that it was only after the Soviets left that the radical jihadists like the Taliban and bin Laden really gained ascendance within Afghanistan — and it was not because the United States helped arm the mujaheddin, but because we left so soon afterwards without providing reconstruction aid. While nobody would suggest that the U.S. should have done anything approaching “nation building,” it is certainly arguable — and the movie Charlie Wilson’s War, as well as congressmen I know personally, indeed did and do argue this — that humanitarian aid, of not-terribly-expensive sorts, might have gone a long way towards bolstering the society in Afghanistan, and towards bolstering more responsible elements therein, in such a way that the Taliban might not have been able to find anywhere near as much opportunity to operate.

The lesson then would be not that Paul-like isolation is the best idea, but rather that just a little involvement might have then, and often does, helped ward off future disaster.

Rand Paul makes a lot of sense on many domestic issues. But by virtue of this one paragraph alone, his big “coming out” exam on foreign policy earned an unambiguous grade of ‘F.’

chadwick · February 2013

Bentleyspop wrote:

chadwick wrote:

http://youtu.be/Wjr-YWsP430
rush limbaugh on women voting
this fucking prick is a useless fat tub of crap. why can't he just vanish like tomorrow or something?

But the regressives need a leader to tell them what to think and say and believe

Besides if Rush is gone who will we have to remind us how smart we are??

true

JimmyV · February 2013

motherships.

chadwick · February 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in1AovV3 ... 58A0565C5B
and here is mr. insanity limbaugh talking out of his large sweaty pimply ass

Bentleyspop · February 2013

here's another classic

Only this time Rushie is called out by an ex-marine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNJ5nn2-2oo

Lifted · February 2013

All my policies come from facts, common sense and faith! Its that simple.

I dont believe in emotions and feelings for policy....i believe in facts, common sense and reality!

all of your policies come from facts, common sense and FAITH? but you don't believe in emotions and feelings for policy? hmmmmmmm.......very republican of you.

also, I've heard that excuse made for republicans who claim the republican party is the party of civil rights. yeah, MLK and Abe Lincoln were both self-proclaimed republicans. (or at least Lincoln was) but clearly the republican party has evolved, no pun intended, into something completely different. the party of fox news claiming to be aligned with the teachings of MLK is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard, if only I hadn't heard it before. even Colin Powell has essentially disbanded from the republican party, yet you still try and use him as your token black guy....herman caine? hahahaha.....I won't even capitalize his name....how someone could be proud of having that guy in their 'party' is beyond me. when you have to start naming off the handful of minorities who belong to your party as an example of why your party does not hate said minorities, that should be a red flag. if you had any common sense, it would be clear to you that todays GOP is the party of hate....even if some of their members aren't ready to openly admit their prejudices.

MG79478 · February 2013

Lifted wrote:

also, I've heard that excuse made for republicans who claim the republican party is the party of civil rights. yeah, MLK and Abe Lincoln were both self-proclaimed republicans. (or at least Lincoln was) but clearly the republican party has evolved, no pun intended, into something completely different. the party of fox news claiming to be aligned with the teachings of MLK is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard, if only I hadn't heard it before. even Colin Powell has essentially disbanded from the republican party, yet you still try and use him as your token black guy....herman caine? hahahaha.....I won't even capitalize his name....how someone could be proud of having that guy in their 'party' is beyond me. when you have to start naming off the handful of minorities who belong to your party as an example of why your party does not hate said minorities, that should be a red flag. if you had any common sense, it would be clear to you that todays GOP is the party of hate....even if some of their members aren't ready to openly admit their prejudices.

Yet the Democrats are the party that want to enslave minorities to the government with entitlements in exchange for votes. It appears you have a warped view of reality.

mickeyrat · February 2013

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pj1981 · February 2013

mickeyrat wrote:

My point was how can fetuses be considered human if they would be unable to breathe even with help? How would such an entity be kept alive without some lung function? Seriously. How?

My point has been that fetuses are life, they are human life, we all know this,
whether we are pro choice or pro life.
To continue to deny this fact is ridiculous and does nothing for the pro choice side of the issue.
It's a lame argument that is unnecessary.
Each and every human being who walks or ever walked the Earth was a fetus.
This is human life. Respect this.

Pro choice argument is just that, it's about the right to choose,
simply, either you believe in this or you don't. I do.

MG79478 · February 2013

mickeyrat wrote:

was your friends father born with fully developed lungs? I assume at some point he could breathe unaided ?Thats its now at this stage of life he needs assistance to breathe?

My point was how can fetuses be considered human if they would be unable to breathe even with help? How would such an entity be kept alive without some lung function? Seriously. How?

Without care 24/7, a 1 year old baby would die. Are they not human?

At what point does life begin?

Lifted · February 2013

MG79478 wrote:

Lifted wrote:

also, I've heard that excuse made for republicans who claim the republican party is the party of civil rights. yeah, MLK and Abe Lincoln were both self-proclaimed republicans. (or at least Lincoln was) but clearly the republican party has evolved, no pun intended, into something completely different. the party of fox news claiming to be aligned with the teachings of MLK is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard, if only I hadn't heard it before. even Colin Powell has essentially disbanded from the republican party, yet you still try and use him as your token black guy....herman caine? hahahaha.....I won't even capitalize his name....how someone could be proud of having that guy in their 'party' is beyond me. when you have to start naming off the handful of minorities who belong to your party as an example of why your party does not hate said minorities, that should be a red flag. if you had any common sense, it would be clear to you that todays GOP is the party of hate....even if some of their members aren't ready to openly admit their prejudices.

Yet the Democrats are the party that want to enslave minorities to the government with entitlements in exchange for votes. It appears you have a warped view of reality.

please elaborate on this accusation.

as for my warped view of reality....i'd say it's not. merely an observation of the reality I am living in. there is not one strong-standing/passionate republican that I've ever met who I would not consider a bigot. the only republicans I know who I would not consider bigoted are people who choose political sides based on the affiliations of those closest to them, and not a knowledge of actual political policy. (the misinformed) for example, my non-political mother who refuses to support Obama, not based on his performance as president, or his personality, or even his ideology; but because my stepfather is a racist in denial who has fox news playing on the tv 24/7. you know, the news network that spends 90% of their airtime portraying the president of the united states as an illegitimate commie/socialist (if only he were a commie/socialist) who is trying to derail this great country and everything it has ever stood for.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that, in my world, there are two types of people that support todays republican party.

#1. those who are filled with hate, and/or are overly susceptible to fear mongering.
#2. those who are severely misinformed...most likely due to selective exposure of information, a low intellectual capacity or religious brainwashing.

Lifted · February 2013

one of my favorite conservative talking points:

tide goes in, tide goes out, sun goes up, sun goes down; never a miscommunication - paraphrasing conservative idiot Bill O'Reilly's breakthrough on what he claims is proof that God exists.

MG79478 · February 2013

Lifted wrote:

MG79478 wrote:

Lifted wrote:

also, I've heard that excuse made for republicans who claim the republican party is the party of civil rights. yeah, MLK and Abe Lincoln were both self-proclaimed republicans. (or at least Lincoln was) but clearly the republican party has evolved, no pun intended, into something completely different. the party of fox news claiming to be aligned with the teachings of MLK is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard, if only I hadn't heard it before. even Colin Powell has essentially disbanded from the republican party, yet you still try and use him as your token black guy....herman caine? hahahaha.....I won't even capitalize his name....how someone could be proud of having that guy in their 'party' is beyond me. when you have to start naming off the handful of minorities who belong to your party as an example of why your party does not hate said minorities, that should be a red flag. if you had any common sense, it would be clear to you that todays GOP is the party of hate....even if some of their members aren't ready to openly admit their prejudices.

Yet the Democrats are the party that want to enslave minorities to the government with entitlements in exchange for votes. It appears you have a warped view of reality.

please elaborate on this accusation.

as for my warped view of reality....i'd say it's not. merely an observation of the reality I am living in. there is not one strong-standing/passionate republican that I've ever met who I would not consider a bigot. the only republicans I know who I would not consider bigoted are people who choose political sides based on the affiliations of those closest to them, and not a knowledge of actual political policy. (the misinformed) for example, my non-political mother who refuses to support Obama, not based on his performance as president, or his personality, or even his ideology; but because my stepfather is a racist in denial who has fox news playing on the tv 24/7. you know, the news network that spends 90% of their airtime portraying the president of the united states as an illegitimate commie/socialist (if only he were a commie/socialist) who is trying to derail this great country and everything it has ever stood for.

I guess what i'm trying to say is that, in my world, there are two types of people that support todays republican party.

#1. those who are filled with hate, and/or are overly susceptible to fear mongering.
#2. those who are severely misinformed...most likely due to selective exposure of information, a low intellectual capacity or religious brainwashing.

What a coincidence! Because in my experience, those are the two types of people who support todays Democratic Party.

mickeyrat · February 2013

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Jason P · February 2013

I believe my brother was born almost 3 months premature. He could fit in the palm of your hand.

I enjoyed cracking a few beers and watching b-ball with him this past weekend. Life is good.

cincybearcat · February 2013

Lifted wrote:

I guess what i'm trying to say is that, in my world, there are two types of people that support todays republican party.

#1. those who are filled with hate, and/or are overly susceptible to fear mongering.
#2. those who are severely misinformed...most likely due to selective exposure of information, a low intellectual capacity or religious brainwashing.

Oh shit this is priceless. Of course no one could disagree with your opinions or "your side" unless there was something seriously wrong with them huh?

Get your bs out of here.

cincybearcat · February 2013

Jason P wrote:

I believe my brother was born almost 3 months premature. He could fit in the palm of your hand.

I enjoyed cracking a few beers and watching b-ball with him this past weekend. Life is good.

How did you open your beer with him in your hand? :shock:

JimmyV · February 2013

cincybearcat wrote:

Jason P wrote:

I believe my brother was born almost 3 months premature. He could fit in the palm of your hand.

I enjoyed cracking a few beers and watching b-ball with him this past weekend. Life is good.

How did you open your beer with him in your hand? :shock:

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