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hedonist · February 2013

JimmyV wrote:

My experience with some libertarians has shown a rigidity and refusal to compromise, a sense of superiority that theirs is the only true way, and a general contempt for anyone who disagrees because anyone who does not see things their way is ignorant and not as in-the-know as they. Not at all saying you are one of these people but they are out there.

Replace "libertarians" with "people" or every other party, and I'm with you.

People are the same all over.

brianlux · February 2013

bigdvs wrote:

if i understand it correctly forum posting, pearl jam and outdoor concerts are all SWPL

Oh heck ya. You bet 'cha. Like, fer shur.

brianlux · February 2013

hedonist wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

My experience with some libertarians has shown a rigidity and refusal to compromise, a sense of superiority that theirs is the only true way, and a general contempt for anyone who disagrees because anyone who does not see things their way is ignorant and not as in-the-know as they. Not at all saying you are one of these people but they are out there.

Replace "libertarians" with "people" or every other party, and I'm with you.

People are the same all over.

I agree but only because I see Libertarianism as having changed over the last several years. Libertarian is a new label (gotta love them labels) for "Tea Party". It's not the same thing any more.

JonnyPistachio · February 2013

brianlux wrote:

I'm waiting for the CSPWNLA to arise.

(That's: Common Sense People With No Label Affiliation.)

And of course I'm one of those RAPWWWEIMIAA.

(Really Amused People Who Wonder Why Everything Is Made Into An Acronym)

TWFF (That Was Fuckin Funny)

the wolf · February 2013

Smart people usually don't have to try so hard to sound smart.

Though I lost interest after the 25th "leftoid" and 56th "SWPL". :roll:

JimmyV · February 2013

hedonist wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

My experience with some libertarians has shown a rigidity and refusal to compromise, a sense of superiority that theirs is the only true way, and a general contempt for anyone who disagrees because anyone who does not see things their way is ignorant and not as in-the-know as they. Not at all saying you are one of these people but they are out there.

Replace "libertarians" with "people" or every other party, and I'm with you.

People are the same all over.

In some cases certainly. But I expect someone who is a hardcore Dem or Rep to be rigid in that ideology. With libertarians there is simultaneously this notion that they have risen above party politics but are somehow just as rigid in their beliefs.

mikepegg44 · February 2013

JimmyV wrote:

hedonist wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

My experience with some libertarians has shown a rigidity and refusal to compromise, a sense of superiority that theirs is the only true way, and a general contempt for anyone who disagrees because anyone who does not see things their way is ignorant and not as in-the-know as they. Not at all saying you are one of these people but they are out there.

Replace "libertarians" with "people" or every other party, and I'm with you.

People are the same all over.

In some cases certainly. But I expect someone who is a hardcore Dem or Rep to be rigid in that ideology. With libertarians there is simultaneously this notion that they have risen above party politics but are somehow just as rigid in their beliefs.

what would be your definition of rising above party politics?

I would think rejecting the dominant parties platforms and not supporting someone based on party alignment would be above party politics. that doesn't mean a rigid belief system is absent. Libertarians are probably more rigid than the others in their beliefs but refuse to buy into the lesser of two evils argument that permeates party politics.

Prince Of Dorkness · February 2013

Reading this thread gives me the same confused feeling I get after I take a really big dump and then stare at the stained paper, trying to figure out what everything was before I digested it.

But this stinks more.

Prince Of Dorkness · February 2013

You do have to openly point and laugh at some tool who writes a VERY poorly-worded, meandering and ultimately meaningless whinefest about how "intolerant" one group is and then fills it with digs and obtuse generalizations about said group, comes up with some obnoxious acronym for them, adds more silly names (leftoid? democan? republicrat?) and then comes up with some totally unrelated conclusion.

He then relates a story about how someone got sick of listening to their bleating and walked away... and this is used as proof that people who live on the east coast are intolerant.

but please...BigDVS.... I'm all ears.... since you're not one of those limp-wristed pansy people who "like stuff" like walking on the beach and Pearl Jam concerts like those people on the East Coast... what do YOU like? What things make you all excited to be alive?

Squirrel hunting, tractor pulls and can shooting? Is there a committee that votes on what is OK and not OK for people to like before they're called "leftoid?"

Prince Of Dorkness · February 2013

bigdvs wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

* PWTSAAFM =

People With Thick Skulls And Assholes For Mouths. :idea:

aww aren't you cute and original

SWPL- long running blog of Stuff White People Like for example sushi, walks on the beach, farmers markets, cats, cause bracelets: its meant as a dig at people (regardless of race) that fall into the groupthink mentality of most East Coast cities

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/

Um... buddy? You took an acronym from a parody website and I made one up off the top of my head.

Cute... not sure about that. But original? Well.. comparred to your post, anyway.

peacefrompaul · February 2013

JimmyV wrote:

I too am unsure what an SWPL is. And what manner of mythical creature is this "commonsensical libertarian?"

Hello

peacefrompaul · February 2013

brianlux wrote:

hedonist wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

My experience with some libertarians has shown a rigidity and refusal to compromise, a sense of superiority that theirs is the only true way, and a general contempt for anyone who disagrees because anyone who does not see things their way is ignorant and not as in-the-know as they. Not at all saying you are one of these people but they are out there.

Replace "libertarians" with "people" or every other party, and I'm with you.

People are the same all over.

I agree but only because I see Libertarianism as having changed over the last several years. Libertarian is a new label (gotta love them labels) for "Tea Party". It's not the same thing any more.

As a Libertarian, I agree. The Tea Party is ridiculous.

JimmyV · February 2013

mikepegg44 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

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In some cases certainly. But I expect someone who is a hardcore Dem or Rep to be rigid in that ideology. With libertarians there is simultaneously this notion that they have risen above party politics but are somehow just as rigid in their beliefs.

what would be your definition of rising above party politics?

I would think rejecting the dominant parties platforms and not supporting someone based on party alignment would be above party politics. that doesn't mean a rigid belief system is absent. Libertarians are probably more rigid than the others in their beliefs but refuse to buy into the lesser of two evils argument that permeates party politics.

See, I don't agree that what some Libertarians are doing is any better than what some Dems or Republicans are doing. How many people are supporting Rand simply because he is Ron's son? Again, not saying you are one of them, but deep down you do know those people are out there. How different is that than supporting this year's democratic candidate just because someone is a Democrat? I don't see it as being much different at all. The sense of superiority coming from some Libertarians is a real turnoff to their cause.

For what it is worth I personally have never thought of the Tea Party as being a branch of Libertarianism.

Prince Of Dorkness · February 2013

Rand Paul doesn't even believe his own bullshit.

He's now suing the people who own Ron Paul.com and RonPaul.org, even though they had originally offered him.org for free.

And this "people should be able to do what they want" has gone crying to the UNITED F-ing NATIONS begging for help.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ron-paul ... -for-help/

In a libertarian Utopia he claims to want... anyone could own RonPaul.com and do whatever they wanted with it and neither the U.S. federal government nor the U.N. could do a thing about it.

It would be just like those roadside businesses that Ron and Rand Paul say should be able to turn away black people if they want. Or how food manufacturers should be able to post "healthy and nutritious" on boxes of saw dust and screw the buyer... do your own research and don't expect the Nanny State to protect you...

Libertarians love the idea of "hands off" until its their turn to be slighted. Then they suddenly think the gov'mnt needs to step in and help this poor soul.

JimmyV · February 2013

So the Pauls paid out all this campaign money to their relatives and no one working on the campaign thought to lock up these domains?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/22/r ... 1-million/

What a scam they have pulled on their followers.

Smellyman · February 2013

JimmyV wrote:

So the Pauls paid out all this campaign money to their relatives and no one working on the campaign thought to lock up these domains?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/22/r ... 1-million/

What a scam they have pulled on their followers.

Libertarian utopia. the rich get richer and cronyism runs rampant.

Prince Of Dorkness · February 2013

Anyone paying attention to the Paul family knows that their "libertarianism" is just a way to say "yeah, I abuse everyone I want, steal what I want, do what I want, screw over who I want and the government has no right to tell me I can't."

JimmyV · February 2013

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Anyone paying attention to the Paul family knows that their "libertarianism" is just a way to say "yeah, I abuse everyone I want, steal what I want, do what I want, screw over who I want and the government has no right to tell me I can't."

"And if I can find a way to blame the government for any of it, I will."

mikepegg44 · February 2013

JimmyV wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Anyone paying attention to the Paul family knows that their "libertarianism" is just a way to say "yeah, I abuse everyone I want, steal what I want, do what I want, screw over who I want and the government has no right to tell me I can't."

"And if I can find a way to blame the government for any of it, I will."

sorry you guys feel that way.

They believe the gov't is there to protect individuals, but you can mis-characterize it all you want.

You can disagree with them, in fact, I disagree with a lot of Rand Paul's decisions, but don't simply make shit up. There is plenty you can disagree with them on, why make stuff up?

JimmyV · February 2013

I believe that government has been very good to the Pauls and demonizing government has been even better. I don't believe they even believe what they are saying much of the time, yet they have a fanatical following who treats every word as gospel. I don't respect that.

And I do not agree that saying the Pauls will blame government for anything and everything they can is making something up. I think they have proven that statement to be true.

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