Not sure why people think the lottery will cause a huge increase in demand for 10C tix.
Because if you lower the barriers to entry, more competitors emerge. Many people didn't like the cost of sitting there hitting F5 and just never attempted to get tickets to places like MSG. Now that the cost is zero, everyone who sat on the sidelines will go for tickets. Scalpers included. It's gonna be way easier to scalp MSG now. You will probably also see an increase in multiple memberships so people can get multiple shows as their #1s.
btw...dont forget something very important..no one mention it
before the beta and the changes at the website ,and with the previous system ,you could be online,log in from 2 different pc-laptops,with the same acount....so to have multiples screans or browser open so refresh-f5 and get chances to score
now u cant..once u log in your mobile with chrome u cant be the SAME time to anotrher device or browser log in too...when u try to log in to the second browser-device,you log out automatically from the previous u was in....
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Looks to me like no one will get tickets in this test... in order for you to get your funds back they have to cancel/decline your order. It'd be more complicated to accept your order and your four dollars and then return it by cancelling later. So no "winners" except prize winners in the contest.
No. Existing members used to get tickets close to 90% of the time in my and my friends experience, due to persistence.
Now, thats gone.
New members should be thrilled...older members, should riot.
<sad panda>ME</sad panda>
who said new members arent the same persistent as the old??
and all are members..same 50$ per year,,who said old member should have a better chance to score??
better seats at the venue,yes..better chances to scoree?no
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
ok i guess i was being generous on capacity figures and fan club alottment. but if its 17,000 and 8% then that makes my point stronger. fewer seats and fewer tix, tix in pairs, and fewer possibilities for highly poplulated 10C regions.
btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.
Seriously, have you been in MSG? A quick Google search shows capacity for concerts at 19,763.
Plus, have you ever seen an NBA game? Please point out the NBA arena that holds 25,000.
Anyway, I will assume math was not your strong suit because everything you've said in terms of your numerical assumptions bear no relation to reality.
my bad, dick. forgot to count each and every seat the last time i was at MSG. i will next time tho
2005: Borgata 2, Philly
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
No. Existing members used to get tickets close to 90% of the time in my and my friends experience, due to persistence.
Now, thats gone.
New members should be thrilled...older members, should riot.
<sad panda>ME</sad panda>
who said new members arent the same persistent as the old??
and all are members..same 50$ per year,,who said old member should have a better chance to score??
better seats at the venue,yes..better chances to scoree?no
YOU said your not. Your not gonna sit there all day and do it, I am.
I enjoyed meeting you in Toronto last year, now neither of us will have tickets. I understand what your saying, and itll work better for Grand Rapids, but for any major city, were all now looking at a 10% shot at tix.
hello there..i understand what u saying,but we cant do statistics,mwith out kow the real tour details
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
ok i guess i was being generous on capacity figures and fan club alottment. but if its 17,000 and 8% then that makes my point stronger. fewer seats and fewer tix, tix in pairs, and fewer possibilities for highly poplulated 10C regions.
btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.
most arenas hold between 15,000-20,000, depending on the arena... MSG holds 19,500 for end stage concerts... the "wach" in philly is one of the largest in the country and it holds a little over 20,000 i think... the spectrum held 15,000, if even that
ampitheaters with lawns typically hold more
yeah i get it. i was wrong about phish i looked it up and the 2011 run was 75,707 / 75,707 so about 19k per show. i was just trying to make a point like MayDay and RS65573, us tri-state ppl, are basically relying on luck now in a market where the demand was already the highest in the country.
2005: Borgata 2, Philly
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
No. Existing members used to get tickets close to 90% of the time in my and my friends experience, due to persistence.
Now, thats gone.
New members should be thrilled...older members, should riot.
<sad panda>ME</sad panda>
who said new members arent the same persistent as the old??
and all are members..same 50$ per year,,who said old member should have a better chance to score??
better seats at the venue,yes..better chances to scoree?no
YOU said your not. Your not gonna sit there all day and do it, I am.
me???trust me,,i can be here for a month in the row with out a sleep..
im not talkinmg about me..for me that go to more than one show per tour,ismore difficult the new system to score tix..
but im seeing the forest..not my tree...
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I dont wanna fight with anyone, im just very disappointed. Im sorry if i offended anyone, have a great day guys. Im going back to work.
see??you dont have to take all day off work to try to score tix..
have a good day
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
btw...dont forget something very important..no one mention it
before the beta and the changes at the website ,and with the previous system ,you could be online,log in from 2 different pc-laptops,with the same acount....so to have multiples screans or browser open so refresh-f5 and get chances to score
now u cant..once u log in your mobile with chrome u cant be the SAME time to anotrher device or browser log in too...when u try to log in to the second browser-device,you log out automatically from the previous u was in....
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
ok i guess i was being generous on capacity figures and fan club alottment. but if its 17,000 and 8% then that makes my point stronger. fewer seats and fewer tix, tix in pairs, and fewer possibilities for highly poplulated 10C regions.
btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.
most arenas hold between 15,000-20,000, depending on the arena... MSG holds 19,500 for end stage concerts... the "wach" in philly is one of the largest in the country and it holds a little over 20,000 i think... the spectrum held 15,000, if even that
ampitheaters with lawns typically hold more
yeah i get it. i was wrong about phish i looked it up and the 2011 run was 75,707 / 75,707 so about 19k per show. i was just trying to make a point like MayDay and RS65573, us tri-state ppl, are basically relying on luck now in a market where the demand was already the highest in the country.
dont worry my friend... me, you, and every other die hard northeast fan will win our fair share of 10c tix, and get into every other concert we want to even when we dont... PJ tix are pretty easy to come by
I dont wanna fight with anyone, im just very disappointed. Im sorry if i offended anyone, have a great day guys. Im going back to work.
see??you dont have to take all day off work to try to score tix..
have a good day
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
Quite the overreaction to not being one of nine winners in this test it seems.
You realize this has NOTHING to due with the test, and everything to do with it being a lottery right?
Wrong. The lottery will have zero impact on most shows where everyone used to get tickets and they still will. The lottery will only have major impact on high demand shows where many people got shut out anyway.
As far as scalpers, a lot of people here have no idea how brokers work. The lottery is much worse for brokers because the old system could be manipulated. Where do you think the tricks came from in terms of accessing certain deeper links, etc? Brokers have no interest in new memberships because a new club number doesn't yield good enough tickets for them to worry about.
Everyone that tried for 10club tickets lost. Accept for 9 lucky folks. They received emails that they scored a ticket. They would be receiving an email shortly on what prize they have one.
Quite the overreaction to not being one of nine winners in this test it seems.
You realize this has NOTHING to due with the test, and everything to do with it being a lottery right?
Wrong. The lottery will have zero impact on most shows where everyone used to get tickets and they still will. The lottery will only have major impact on high demand shows where many people got shut out anyway.
As far as scalpers, a lot of people here have no idea how brokers work. The lottery is much worse for brokers because the old system could be manipulated. Where do you think the tricks came from in terms of accessing certain deeper links, etc? Brokers have no interest in new memberships because a new club number doesn't yield good enough tickets for them to worry about.
exactly..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Congratulations! Your name has been drawn for a pair of tickets to the following shows:
DATE CITY PRICE/PAIR
01/29/2013 Twin peaks Night 2 $1.00
TOTAL $1.00
Your credit card has been charged $1.00
You will receive a final confirmation email about one week before the tour begins.
As a reminder:
- All ticket sales are final. No refunds, no name transfers, no ticket exchanges, no exceptions.
- Tickets are not mailed in advance. Ten Club members must show photo identification to collect purchased tickets at fan club will call on the day of the show.
- Only the Ten Club member whose name is on the membership account may pick the tickets up. No exceptions.
Please direct all ticket related questions to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->.
Ten Club will be emailing you shortly regarding your prize.Thank you for participating in the test ticket drawing. Your feedback on this new system is very important to us. When you have a moment please click this link, fill out the feedback form, and let your voice be heard. http://pearljam.com/feedback
Best Regards
10c
got this in my email. can't wait to go to twin peaks. yay for me.
Amongst the Waves Tour draw isnt end yet...seems maybe they add it to try something different?
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Congratulations! Your name has been drawn for a pair of tickets to the following shows:
DATE CITY PRICE/PAIR
01/29/2013 Twin peaks Night 2 $1.00
TOTAL $1.00
Your credit card has been charged $1.00
You will receive a final confirmation email about one week before the tour begins.
As a reminder:
- All ticket sales are final. No refunds, no name transfers, no ticket exchanges, no exceptions.
- Tickets are not mailed in advance. Ten Club members must show photo identification to collect purchased tickets at fan club will call on the day of the show.
- Only the Ten Club member whose name is on the membership account may pick the tickets up. No exceptions.
Please direct all ticket related questions to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->.
Ten Club will be emailing you shortly regarding your prize.Thank you for participating in the test ticket drawing. Your feedback on this new system is very important to us. When you have a moment please click this link, fill out the feedback form, and let your voice be heard. http://pearljam.com/feedback
Best Regards
10c
got this in my email. can't wait to go to twin peaks. yay for me.
2000: Manchester
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes 2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
Congratulations! Your name has been drawn for a pair of tickets to the following shows:
DATE CITY PRICE/PAIR
01/29/2013 Twin peaks Night 2 $1.00
TOTAL $1.00
Your credit card has been charged $1.00
You will receive a final confirmation email about one week before the tour begins.
As a reminder:
- All ticket sales are final. No refunds, no name transfers, no ticket exchanges, no exceptions.
- Tickets are not mailed in advance. Ten Club members must show photo identification to collect purchased tickets at fan club will call on the day of the show.
- Only the Ten Club member whose name is on the membership account may pick the tickets up. No exceptions.
Please direct all ticket related questions to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->.
Ten Club will be emailing you shortly regarding your prize.Thank you for participating in the test ticket drawing. Your feedback on this new system is very important to us. When you have a moment please click this link, fill out the feedback form, and let your voice be heard. http://pearljam.com/feedback
Best Regards
10c
got this in my email. can't wait to go to twin peaks. yay for me.
CONGRATS!!!
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
ok i guess i was being generous on capacity figures and fan club alottment. but if its 17,000 and 8% then that makes my point stronger. fewer seats and fewer tix, tix in pairs, and fewer possibilities for highly poplulated 10C regions.
btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.
most arenas hold between 15,000-20,000, depending on the arena... MSG holds 19,500 for end stage concerts... the "wach" in philly is one of the largest in the country and it holds a little over 20,000 i think... the spectrum held 15,000, if even that
ampitheaters with lawns typically hold more
FYI - the two biggest NBA/NHL venues in North America are both located in Canada. Kind of Ironic eh? shows you how much we like our hockey.
Bell Center in Montreal and ACC in Toronto...
I look at the facts online and it says that the Bell center is bigger... I was under the impression that the ACC would be bigger once the renovation was completed, but apparently I'm completely out to lunch.... :crazy:
Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.
You can go to as many shows as you want. There are other ways to get tickets. 10C is obviously trying to spread tickets to as many members as possible given the few number of shows the band plays each year.
Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. They are sacrificing older members for newer ones. And older members should be happy about this your saying?
G-R-E-E-D
I mean, it's awesome that you got to go to all four philly shows and every garden show since '94 but wouldn't it have been cool if a younger fan got to go to a few of them? You could travel to some less popular venues, that's always fun. I've seen every show they've played in NZ since 1998 (;)) so I don't really have a choice but to travel if I want to see them more and it's awesome. Cool people, fun times.
Your attitude comes across as a bit selfish. If you've been a member for 20 years, you'll remember that there was a time you couldn't get fanclub tickets to every single show on a tour. This is still better than that.
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Because if you lower the barriers to entry, more competitors emerge. Many people didn't like the cost of sitting there hitting F5 and just never attempted to get tickets to places like MSG. Now that the cost is zero, everyone who sat on the sidelines will go for tickets. Scalpers included. It's gonna be way easier to scalp MSG now. You will probably also see an increase in multiple memberships so people can get multiple shows as their #1s.
before the beta and the changes at the website ,and with the previous system ,you could be online,log in from 2 different pc-laptops,with the same acount....so to have multiples screans or browser open so refresh-f5 and get chances to score
now u cant..once u log in your mobile with chrome u cant be the SAME time to anotrher device or browser log in too...when u try to log in to the second browser-device,you log out automatically from the previous u was in....
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Now, thats gone.
New members should be thrilled...older members, should riot.
<sad panda>ME</sad panda>
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
and all are members..same 50$ per year,,who said old member should have a better chance to score??
better seats at the venue,yes..better chances to scoree?no
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
my bad, dick. forgot to count each and every seat the last time i was at MSG. i will next time tho
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
You realize this has NOTHING to due with the test, and everything to do with it being a lottery right?
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
yeah i get it. i was wrong about phish i looked it up and the 2011 run was 75,707 / 75,707 so about 19k per show. i was just trying to make a point like MayDay and RS65573, us tri-state ppl, are basically relying on luck now in a market where the demand was already the highest in the country.
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
im not talkinmg about me..for me that go to more than one show per tour,ismore difficult the new system to score tix..
but im seeing the forest..not my tree...
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
have a good day
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
dont worry my friend... me, you, and every other die hard northeast fan will win our fair share of 10c tix, and get into every other concert we want to even when we dont... PJ tix are pretty easy to come by
Wrong. The lottery will have zero impact on most shows where everyone used to get tickets and they still will. The lottery will only have major impact on high demand shows where many people got shut out anyway.
As far as scalpers, a lot of people here have no idea how brokers work. The lottery is much worse for brokers because the old system could be manipulated. Where do you think the tricks came from in terms of accessing certain deeper links, etc? Brokers have no interest in new memberships because a new club number doesn't yield good enough tickets for them to worry about.
Everyone that tried for 10club tickets lost. Accept for 9 lucky folks. They received emails that they scored a ticket. They would be receiving an email shortly on what prize they have one.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
If you say so.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Congratulations! Your name has been drawn for a pair of tickets to the following shows:
DATE CITY PRICE/PAIR
01/29/2013 Twin peaks Night 2 $1.00
TOTAL $1.00
Your credit card has been charged $1.00
You will receive a final confirmation email about one week before the tour begins.
As a reminder:
- All ticket sales are final. No refunds, no name transfers, no ticket exchanges, no exceptions.
- Tickets are not mailed in advance. Ten Club members must show photo identification to collect purchased tickets at fan club will call on the day of the show.
- Only the Ten Club member whose name is on the membership account may pick the tickets up. No exceptions.
For the full ticketing policy, please visit this link: http://pearljam.com/tenclub/tickets
Please direct all ticket related questions to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->.
Ten Club will be emailing you shortly regarding your prize.Thank you for participating in the test ticket drawing. Your feedback on this new system is very important to us. When you have a moment please click this link, fill out the feedback form, and let your voice be heard. http://pearljam.com/feedback
Best Regards
10c
got this in my email. can't wait to go to twin peaks. yay for me.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
Bootleg Reviews: http://pjbootlegreviews.blogspot.com/
CONGRATS!!!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
FYI - the two biggest NBA/NHL venues in North America are both located in Canada. Kind of Ironic eh? shows you how much we like our hockey.
Bell Center in Montreal and ACC in Toronto...
I look at the facts online and it says that the Bell center is bigger... I was under the impression that the ACC would be bigger once the renovation was completed, but apparently I'm completely out to lunch.... :crazy:
I mean, it's awesome that you got to go to all four philly shows and every garden show since '94 but wouldn't it have been cool if a younger fan got to go to a few of them? You could travel to some less popular venues, that's always fun. I've seen every show they've played in NZ since 1998 (;)) so I don't really have a choice but to travel if I want to see them more and it's awesome. Cool people, fun times.
Your attitude comes across as a bit selfish. If you've been a member for 20 years, you'll remember that there was a time you couldn't get fanclub tickets to every single show on a tour. This is still better than that.