Received email from 10C RE ticket drawing

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Not sure why people think the lottery will cause a huge increase in demand for 10C tix.

Because if you lower the barriers to entry, more competitors emerge. Many people didn't like the cost of sitting there hitting F5 and just never attempted to get tickets to places like MSG. Now that the cost is zero, everyone who sat on the sidelines will go for tickets. Scalpers included. It's gonna be way easier to scalp MSG now. You will probably also see an increase in multiple memberships so people can get multiple shows as their #1s.

No. Existing members used to get tickets close to 90% of the time in my and my friends experience, due to persistence.

Now, thats gone.

New members should be thrilled...older members, should riot.
<sad panda>ME</sad panda>

Quite the overreaction to not being one of nine winners in this test it seems.

Luckytwn1 wrote:

Yellow Bedwetter wrote:

ok i guess i was being generous on capacity figures and fan club alottment. but if its 17,000 and 8% then that makes my point stronger. fewer seats and fewer tix, tix in pairs, and fewer possibilities for highly poplulated 10C regions.

btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.

Seriously, have you been in MSG? A quick Google search shows capacity for concerts at 19,763.

Plus, have you ever seen an NBA game? Please point out the NBA arena that holds 25,000.


Anyway, I will assume math was not your strong suit because everything you've said in terms of your numerical assumptions bear no relation to reality.

my bad, dick. forgot to count each and every seat the last time i was at MSG. i will next time tho

dimitrispearljam wrote:

RS65573 wrote:

No. Existing members used to get tickets close to 90% of the time in my and my friends experience, due to persistence.

Now, thats gone.

New members should be thrilled...older members, should riot.
<sad panda>ME</sad panda>

who said new members arent the same persistent as the old??
and all are members..same 50$ per year,,who said old member should have a better chance to score??
better seats at the venue,yes..better chances to scoree?no

YOU said your not. Your not gonna sit there all day and do it, I am.

RS65573 wrote:

I enjoyed meeting you in Toronto last year, now neither of us will have tickets. I understand what your saying, and itll work better for Grand Rapids, but for any major city, were all now looking at a 10% shot at tix.

hello there..i understand what u saying,but we cant do statistics,mwith out kow the real tour details

RS65573 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

RS65573 wrote:

No. Existing members used to get tickets close to 90% of the time in my and my friends experience, due to persistence.

Now, thats gone.

New members should be thrilled...older members, should riot.
<sad panda>ME</sad panda>

who said new members arent the same persistent as the old??
and all are members..same 50$ per year,,who said old member should have a better chance to score??
better seats at the venue,yes..better chances to scoree?no

YOU said your not. Your not gonna sit there all day and do it, I am.

me???trust me,,i can be here for a month in the row with out a sleep..
im not talkinmg about me..for me that go to more than one show per tour,ismore difficult the new system to score tix..
but im seeing the forest..not my tree...

dimitrispearljam wrote:

btw...dont forget something very important..no one mention it
before the beta and the changes at the website ,and with the previous system ,you could be online,log in from 2 different pc-laptops,with the same acount....so to have multiples screans or browser open so refresh-f5 and get chances to score
now u cant..once u log in your mobile with chrome u cant be the SAME time to anotrher device or browser log in too...when u try to log in to the second browser-device,you log out automatically from the previous u was in....

Very confused still

RS65573 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

Quite the overreaction to not being one of nine winners in this test it seems.

You realize this has NOTHING to due with the test, and everything to do with it being a lottery right?

Wrong. The lottery will have zero impact on most shows where everyone used to get tickets and they still will. The lottery will only have major impact on high demand shows where many people got shut out anyway.

As far as scalpers, a lot of people here have no idea how brokers work. The lottery is much worse for brokers because the old system could be manipulated. Where do you think the tricks came from in terms of accessing certain deeper links, etc? Brokers have no interest in new memberships because a new club number doesn't yield good enough tickets for them to worry about.