I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
yep,for exable..
i have slow internet,why someone else will have better chances than me.?.
someone is expert at browser,im not,i know only explorer
i wear 10 different eyeglasses,till i change them to find where the buy button is ,the page frozen or are sold out..
my kids need to go to school,to doctor appoitment..cant waste all day infront of a laptop..
persistance.??i have,but maybe i dont have the time...
this thing now is away better
I agree that this is better. Expecting someone to spend hours trying to get a web site to load is ridiculous. We all did it, but it's not ideal and the persistence of the F5 way could still get you shut out. At least this way it's easy to enter and doesn't take a lot of time.
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
yep,for exable..
i have slow internet,why someone else will have better chances than me.?.
someone is expert at browser,im not,i know only explorer
i wear 10 different eyeglasses,till i change them to find where the buy button is ,the page frozen or are sold out..
my kids need to go to school,to doctor appoitment..cant waste all day infront of a laptop..
persistance.??i have,but maybe i dont have the time...
this thing now is away better
I enjoyed meeting you in Toronto last year, now neither of us will have tickets. I understand what your saying, and itll work better for Grand Rapids, but for any major city, were all now looking at a 10% shot at tix.
I don't think your chances are less. People in major PJ markets still got shut out before and people will still get shut out now. This at least makes the process easier and less frustrating.
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
but it also makes me wonder how many scalpers will sign up for a digital membership just to enter the lottery.
They could also get an analog membership and flip all the goodies like the Deep mag and vinyl single, or any other 'goodies' that are available to members.
But then they would still have to show up with their own ID to pick up the tix and not know where their seats were until day of show.
Not sure why people think the lottery will cause a huge increase in demand for 10C tix.
East coast/Chicago dates will still be the most difficult to get, and based on current history, 10C tickets for most other cities will be easily had.
Instead of the F5 lottery played by people who are at a computer during onsales, everyone now has the opportunity to enter a lottery. Has anything else really changed?
nothing..more easy fair system only..
there is no serious argument that proves the f5 is better..its not..
again..all 10c tix will go to 10c members..well..not to always the same now..
even i try to score always more than one show,and now will be hard,to impossible,im ok..
more different members get them..but members..great
but it also makes me wonder how many scalpers will sign up for a digital membership just to enter the lottery.
They could also get an analog membership and flip all the goodies like the Deep mag and vinyl single, or any other 'goodies' that are available to members.
If we still have to pick up our tickets at will call and don't know the location of the tickets beforehand I don't thinks calpers would be able to sell them..or at least would have a very difficult time doing so. Other than the onsale method, I think everything else is remaining the same.
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
there are no "tickets." the "tickets" that are won are the prizes. 9 people will have "won" on their ticket page. everyone else will have "lost." I was confused by this part initially but it has been cleared up
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So are you saying that only 9 people will get an e-mail saying congrats you got a pair of tickets to Mercury - or elsewhere (as opposed to your name didn't get get drawn for the tix)? If so, what is the point of this exercise? I thought this was supposed to mirror a real tour lottery with potentially hundreds of names being picked randomly and the site working as if 'for real', ie your 'My Ticket's would show a good number of 10C members with tickets.
It isn't mirroring a real tour, because on a real tour every fan club member doesn't enter for every show. This seems to be a test of the system that we helped them with, and they offered some prizes to get people motivated to help.
I know it's not really completely mirroring, but I would have thought they would have gone through the motions of hundreds of fans being notified of yay or nay, how hundreds of the little 'won/lost' button get updated with different options, etc. Just my thoughts. Unless this is just part of the system they are testing.
Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.
Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.
but he/she wouldn't have as close as seats as you! :fp:
only got one reply back , from the EV tour. Sorry, your name was not drawn for a pair of Ten Club tickets. The credit card authorization will now be canceled releasing the funds back to the card. :( Nothing on the others yet.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.
this guy knows what im talking about
can only hope the new album is better than the last 2 and worth the new lottery
2005: Borgata 2, Philly
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
lmao...how was the old system fair to everyone? Oh, that's right, it wasn't. Plenty of people were persistent, F5'd for days, and had nothing to show for it!
You know a ton of computer shit that 99% of the general public doesn't. People like you are probably the reason it was so hard for everyone else to get tickets. Didn't 10C mention sabotage? "furthest page in the string"? wtf does that mean?
I wasn't sure I liked this new ticketing system but if it levels the playing field for EVERYONE I am all for it!
Not sure why people think the lottery will cause a huge increase in demand for 10C tix.
East coast/Chicago dates will still be the most difficult to get, and based on current history, 10C tickets for most other cities will be easily had.
Instead of the F5 lottery played by people who are at a computer during onsales, everyone now has the opportunity to enter a lottery. Has anything else really changed?
nothing..more easy fair system only..
there is no serious argument that proves the f5 is better..its not..
again..all 10c tix will go to 10c members..well..not to always the same now..
even i try to score always more than one show,and now will be hard,to impossible,im ok..
more different members get them..but members..great
but it also makes me wonder how many scalpers will sign up for a digital membership just to enter the lottery.
They could also get an analog membership and flip all the goodies like the Deep mag and vinyl single, or any other 'goodies' that are available to members.
so..u live in seattle..u are a scalper...
how can u enter the draw for MSG shows??
you need to go in person with your id to get them in NY
you will fly to get them and sell them out of the venue?
and lets say u are NY scalper
what you will say at ebay??
2 10c fan tix,i dont know where in the venue?
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
ok i guess i was being generous on capacity figures and fan club alottment. but if its 17,000 and 8% then that makes my point stronger. fewer seats and fewer tix, tix in pairs, and fewer possibilities for highly poplulated 10C regions.
btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.
Seriously, have you been in MSG? A quick Google search shows capacity for concerts at 19,763.
Plus, have you ever seen an NBA game? Please point out the NBA arena that holds 25,000.
Anyway, I will assume math was not your strong suit because everything you've said in terms of your numerical assumptions bear no relation to reality.
Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.
You can go to as many shows as you want. There are other ways to get tickets. 10C is obviously trying to spread tickets to as many members as possible given the few number of shows the band plays each year.
I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
^^^ This.
I've been very fortunate. After 55 shows (I believe 52 of which were attended with 10C tickets) with a respectable 10C membership number I realize that my streak of never being shut out of a 10C ticket sale is about to end. While I'm in the minority when I say I'd prefer the "old system" as opposed to the lottery I also know there are other means to score tickets should I be shut out. In the grand scheme of things the lottery isn't going to make or break my ability to get inside the building. Granted I may not be sitting in the 1st 10 rows on the floor with my 10C number but I also don't mind sitting in the 1st 10 rows in the wings next to the stage should the need arise.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.
was always like that.new people become members...and what if the new guy hass a better pc-internet connection ot is a hacker??will get them before u
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.
You can go to as many shows as you want. There are other ways to get tickets. 10C is obviously trying to spread tickets to as many members as possible given the few number of shows the band plays each year.
Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. They are sacrificing older members for newer ones. And older members should be happy about this your saying?
I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.
was always like that.new people become members...and what if the new guy hass a better pc-internet connection ot is a hacker??will get them before u
No, i believe its persistence. New members see out of stock and bail, i goto 20 boards, sacrifice a days pay, and stay up all night. YES this benefits the poepl who want it more. HOW IS THAT BAD?
This honestly sickens me man. Ive been all over the planet to see PJ, I WANT IT MORE! There is 0 doubt.
I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
and this is exactly what they wanted to eliminate
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.
You can go to as many shows as you want. There are other ways to get tickets. 10C is obviously trying to spread tickets to as many members as possible given the few number of shows the band plays each year.
Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. They are sacrificing older members for newer ones. And older members should be happy about this your saying?
How are they sacrificing older members? People who have never been shut out for 10C tickets might still never be shut out even with the lottery? Why is everyone assuming the worst? :fp: :fp: :fp:
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
^^^ This.
I've been very fortunate. After 55 shows (I believe 52 of which were attended with 10C tickets) with a respectable 10C membership number I realize that my streak of never being shut out of a 10C ticket sale is about to end. While I'm in the minority when I say I'd prefer the "old system" as opposed to the lottery I also know there are other means to score tickets should I be shut out. In the grand scheme of things the lottery isn't going to make or break my ability to get inside the building. Granted I may not be sitting in the 1st 10 rows on the floor with my 10C number but I also don't mind sitting in the 1st 10 rows in the wings next to the stage should the need arise.
Yeah, Im in the same exact boat. Rather the old way, dont mind this. Will have to adjust accordingly. We will have to get more skilled at the public sales.
How are they sacrificing older members? People who have never been shut out for 10C tickets might still never be shut out even with the lottery? Why is everyone assuming the worst? :fp: :fp: :fp:[/quote]
Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.
You can go to as many shows as you want. There are other ways to get tickets. 10C is obviously trying to spread tickets to as many members as possible given the few number of shows the band plays each year.
Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. They are sacrificing older members for newer ones. And older members should be happy about this your saying?
How are they sacrificing older members? People who have never been shut out for 10C tickets might still never be shut out even with the lottery? Why is everyone assuming the worst? :fp: :fp: :fp:
Because we can do math.[/quote]
So older members have a smaller chance of winning the lottery than new members?
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
ok i guess i was being generous on capacity figures and fan club alottment. but if its 17,000 and 8% then that makes my point stronger. fewer seats and fewer tix, tix in pairs, and fewer possibilities for highly poplulated 10C regions.
btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.
most arenas hold between 15,000-20,000, depending on the arena... MSG holds 19,500 for end stage concerts... the "wach" in philly is one of the largest in the country and it holds a little over 20,000 i think... the spectrum held 15,000, if even that
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I agree that this is better. Expecting someone to spend hours trying to get a web site to load is ridiculous. We all did it, but it's not ideal and the persistence of the F5 way could still get you shut out. At least this way it's easy to enter and doesn't take a lot of time.
same here. but i did receive both emails right away so thats good. not sure why others havent immediately
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
I don't think your chances are less. People in major PJ markets still got shut out before and people will still get shut out now. This at least makes the process easier and less frustrating.
But then they would still have to show up with their own ID to pick up the tix and not know where their seats were until day of show.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
If we still have to pick up our tickets at will call and don't know the location of the tickets beforehand I don't thinks calpers would be able to sell them..or at least would have a very difficult time doing so. Other than the onsale method, I think everything else is remaining the same.
but he/she wouldn't have as close as seats as you! :fp:
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
this guy knows what im talking about
can only hope the new album is better than the last 2 and worth the new lottery
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
lmao...how was the old system fair to everyone? Oh, that's right, it wasn't. Plenty of people were persistent, F5'd for days, and had nothing to show for it!
You know a ton of computer shit that 99% of the general public doesn't. People like you are probably the reason it was so hard for everyone else to get tickets. Didn't 10C mention sabotage? "furthest page in the string"? wtf does that mean?
I wasn't sure I liked this new ticketing system but if it levels the playing field for EVERYONE I am all for it!
how can u enter the draw for MSG shows??
you need to go in person with your id to get them in NY
you will fly to get them and sell them out of the venue?
and lets say u are NY scalper
what you will say at ebay??
2 10c fan tix,i dont know where in the venue?
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Seriously, have you been in MSG? A quick Google search shows capacity for concerts at 19,763.
Plus, have you ever seen an NBA game? Please point out the NBA arena that holds 25,000.
Anyway, I will assume math was not your strong suit because everything you've said in terms of your numerical assumptions bear no relation to reality.
You can go to as many shows as you want. There are other ways to get tickets. 10C is obviously trying to spread tickets to as many members as possible given the few number of shows the band plays each year.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
^^^ This.
I've been very fortunate. After 55 shows (I believe 52 of which were attended with 10C tickets) with a respectable 10C membership number I realize that my streak of never being shut out of a 10C ticket sale is about to end. While I'm in the minority when I say I'd prefer the "old system" as opposed to the lottery I also know there are other means to score tickets should I be shut out. In the grand scheme of things the lottery isn't going to make or break my ability to get inside the building. Granted I may not be sitting in the 1st 10 rows on the floor with my 10C number but I also don't mind sitting in the 1st 10 rows in the wings next to the stage should the need arise.
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
and this is exactly what they wanted to eliminate
No, i believe its persistence. New members see out of stock and bail, i goto 20 boards, sacrifice a days pay, and stay up all night. YES this benefits the poepl who want it more. HOW IS THAT BAD?
This honestly sickens me man. Ive been all over the planet to see PJ, I WANT IT MORE! There is 0 doubt.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
How are they sacrificing older members? People who have never been shut out for 10C tickets might still never be shut out even with the lottery? Why is everyone assuming the worst? :fp: :fp: :fp:
Yeah, Im in the same exact boat. Rather the old way, dont mind this. Will have to adjust accordingly. We will have to get more skilled at the public sales.
Because we can do math.
Sacrificing older members?
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Because we can do math.[/quote]
So older members have a smaller chance of winning the lottery than new members?
most arenas hold between 15,000-20,000, depending on the arena... MSG holds 19,500 for end stage concerts... the "wach" in philly is one of the largest in the country and it holds a little over 20,000 i think... the spectrum held 15,000, if even that
ampitheaters with lawns typically hold more