Received email from 10C RE ticket drawing

eeriepadave · January 2013

only got one reply back , from the EV tour. Sorry, your name was not drawn for a pair of Ten Club tickets. The credit card authorization will now be canceled releasing the funds back to the card. :( Nothing on the others yet.

Yellow Bedwetter · January 2013

RS65573 wrote:

Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.

this guy knows what im talking about

can only hope the new album is better than the last 2 and worth the new lottery

RS65573 · January 2013

Ill sit anywhere man.....anywhere. I just wanna go see my favorite band when they are in town.

covered in bliss · January 2013

MayDay10 wrote:

I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.

There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.

lmao...how was the old system fair to everyone? Oh, that's right, it wasn't. Plenty of people were persistent, F5'd for days, and had nothing to show for it!

You know a ton of computer shit that 99% of the general public doesn't. People like you are probably the reason it was so hard for everyone else to get tickets. Didn't 10C mention sabotage? "furthest page in the string"? wtf does that mean?

I wasn't sure I liked this new ticketing system but if it levels the playing field for EVERYONE I am all for it!

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

RKCNDY wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Not sure why people think the lottery will cause a huge increase in demand for 10C tix.

East coast/Chicago dates will still be the most difficult to get, and based on current history, 10C tickets for most other cities will be easily had.

Instead of the F5 lottery played by people who are at a computer during onsales, everyone now has the opportunity to enter a lottery. Has anything else really changed?

nothing..more easy fair system only..
there is no serious argument that proves the f5 is better..its not..
again..all 10c tix will go to 10c members..well..not to always the same now..
even i try to score always more than one show,and now will be hard,to impossible,im ok..
more different members get them..but members..great

but it also makes me wonder how many scalpers will sign up for a digital membership just to enter the lottery.
They could also get an analog membership and flip all the goodies like the Deep mag and vinyl single, or any other 'goodies' that are available to members.

so..u live in seattle..u are a scalper...
how can u enter the draw for MSG shows??
you need to go in person with your id to get them in NY
you will fly to get them and sell them out of the venue?
and lets say u are NY scalper
what you will say at ebay??
2 10c fan tix,i dont know where in the venue?

SE2567 · January 2013

I`m a loser baby.....

Luckytwn1 · January 2013

Yellow Bedwetter wrote:

ok i guess i was being generous on capacity figures and fan club alottment. but if its 17,000 and 8% then that makes my point stronger. fewer seats and fewer tix, tix in pairs, and fewer possibilities for highly poplulated 10C regions.

btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.

Seriously, have you been in MSG? A quick Google search shows capacity for concerts at 19,763.

Plus, have you ever seen an NBA game? Please point out the NBA arena that holds 25,000.

Anyway, I will assume math was not your strong suit because everything you've said in terms of your numerical assumptions bear no relation to reality.

JimmyV · January 2013

RS65573 wrote:

Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.

You can go to as many shows as you want. There are other ways to get tickets. 10C is obviously trying to spread tickets to as many members as possible given the few number of shows the band plays each year.

100 Pacer · January 2013

MayDay10 wrote:

I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.

There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.

^^^ This.

I've been very fortunate. After 55 shows (I believe 52 of which were attended with 10C tickets) with a respectable 10C membership number I realize that my streak of never being shut out of a 10C ticket sale is about to end. While I'm in the minority when I say I'd prefer the "old system" as opposed to the lottery I also know there are other means to score tickets should I be shut out. In the grand scheme of things the lottery isn't going to make or break my ability to get inside the building. Granted I may not be sitting in the 1st 10 rows on the floor with my 10C number but I also don't mind sitting in the 1st 10 rows in the wings next to the stage should the need arise.

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

RS65573 wrote:

Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.

was always like that.new people become members...and what if the new guy hass a better pc-internet connection ot is a hacker??will get them before u

RS65573 · January 2013

JimmyV wrote:

RS65573 wrote:

Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.

You can go to as many shows as you want. There are other ways to get tickets. 10C is obviously trying to spread tickets to as many members as possible given the few number of shows the band plays each year.

Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. They are sacrificing older members for newer ones. And older members should be happy about this your saying?

my2hands · January 2013

MayDay10 wrote:

I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.

There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.

and this is exactly what they wanted to eliminate

RS65573 · January 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

RS65573 wrote:

Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.

was always like that.new people become members...and what if the new guy hass a better pc-internet connection ot is a hacker??will get them before u

No, i believe its persistence. New members see out of stock and bail, i goto 20 boards, sacrifice a days pay, and stay up all night. YES this benefits the poepl who want it more. HOW IS THAT BAD?

This honestly sickens me man. Ive been all over the planet to see PJ, I WANT IT MORE! There is 0 doubt.

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

my2hands wrote:

MayDay10 wrote:

I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.

There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.

and this is exactly what they wanted to eliminate

Better Dan · January 2013

RS65573 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

RS65573 wrote:

Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.

You can go to as many shows as you want. There are other ways to get tickets. 10C is obviously trying to spread tickets to as many members as possible given the few number of shows the band plays each year.

Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. They are sacrificing older members for newer ones. And older members should be happy about this your saying?

How are they sacrificing older members? People who have never been shut out for 10C tickets might still never be shut out even with the lottery? Why is everyone assuming the worst? :fp: :fp: :fp:

MayDay10 · January 2013

100 Pacer wrote:

MayDay10 wrote:

I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.

There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.

^^^ This.

I've been very fortunate. After 55 shows (I believe 52 of which were attended with 10C tickets) with a respectable 10C membership number I realize that my streak of never being shut out of a 10C ticket sale is about to end. While I'm in the minority when I say I'd prefer the "old system" as opposed to the lottery I also know there are other means to score tickets should I be shut out. In the grand scheme of things the lottery isn't going to make or break my ability to get inside the building. Granted I may not be sitting in the 1st 10 rows on the floor with my 10C number but I also don't mind sitting in the 1st 10 rows in the wings next to the stage should the need arise.

Yeah, Im in the same exact boat. Rather the old way, dont mind this. Will have to adjust accordingly. We will have to get more skilled at the public sales.

RS65573 · January 2013

How are they sacrificing older members? People who have never been shut out for 10C tickets might still never be shut out even with the lottery? Why is everyone assuming the worst? :fp: :fp: :fp:[/quote]

Because we can do math.

JimmyV · January 2013

RS65573 wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

RS65573 wrote:

Thats just not true. Ive never been shut out, because i NEVER gave up til i got them. I went to all 4 phily shows, every garden show since 94....now I can go to 10% of the shows and you think this is close to the same? I think its HORRIBLE. A guy can sign up tomorrow, and have the same shot at tix as a 20 year member.

You can go to as many shows as you want. There are other ways to get tickets. 10C is obviously trying to spread tickets to as many members as possible given the few number of shows the band plays each year.

Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. They are sacrificing older members for newer ones. And older members should be happy about this your saying?

Sacrificing older members?

Better Dan · January 2013

RS65573 wrote:

How are they sacrificing older members? People who have never been shut out for 10C tickets might still never be shut out even with the lottery? Why is everyone assuming the worst? :fp: :fp: :fp:

Because we can do math.[/quote]

So older members have a smaller chance of winning the lottery than new members?

my2hands · January 2013

Yellow Bedwetter wrote:

ok i guess i was being generous on capacity figures and fan club alottment. but if its 17,000 and 8% then that makes my point stronger. fewer seats and fewer tix, tix in pairs, and fewer possibilities for highly poplulated 10C regions.

btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.

most arenas hold between 15,000-20,000, depending on the arena... MSG holds 19,500 for end stage concerts... the "wach" in philly is one of the largest in the country and it holds a little over 20,000 i think... the spectrum held 15,000, if even that

ampitheaters with lawns typically hold more

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