ok so likely fair to assume that any winner is a prize winner?
Yes
As far as I read it, after all the tickets are drawn, there will be another draw for one person per gig. So everyone's name back in the hat for the merch, not just ticket winnners.
" Win Some Rare Merch!
To make this fun, we have included some rare hard-to-find merchandise items that will be given away during the test drawing. Once the drawing entry period has ended, the new ticket system will randomly draw one name for each of the 8 shows entered. Of those 8 winners, each will receive one of the merchandise items listed below assigned at random. "
No, there will only be 9 winners, one for each show. Everyone else will lose. Check the "Events" page:
Monday,January 14th 10am Pacific. The Ticket test is now offline and the drawing entry period has closed. Nine names will be selected to win the merchandise prizes. All other entries will receive an email confirming they were not selected and the authorizations will be canceled releasing funds back to credit cards. Please be sure to fill out the feedback form.
but they could create algorithms or formulas to assist the Northeast market so those of us than have been members for 7+ yrs get at least one show. will it happen? no, of course not. the systems will crash anyways lol
so anyone who gets tickets automatically gets a prize? don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the people who won one of the items, but I would've liked a "real" lottery test, one that gives us an actual idea as to how likely we are to get tickets.
It would be impossible to do that. Until it's a real tour and credit cards are being charged for real dollar amounts, you have no way of knowing how thousands of people would handle the quantity of shows to put in for.
this too
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
but they could create algorithms or formulas to assist the Northeast market so those of us than have been members for 7+ yrs get at least one show. will it happen? no, of course not. the systems will crash anyways lol
Curious...why 7?
may7be 7 sounds sexy
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
but they could create algorithms or formulas to assist the Northeast market so those of us than have been members for 7+ yrs get at least one show. will it happen? no, of course not. the systems will crash anyways lol
Curious...why 7?
may7be 7 sounds sexy
Joined: 02 Oct 2005 01:39
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
the odds of winning tix were 10/100,000+ so i wouldnt discredit the system completely. a real system would be 25,000/100,000+ so odds are a bit better but still not great. i'd rather be in control of my own destiny. if i get shut out on up to 3 dates on the next tour i may consider cancelling my membership, but first they gotta tour which could be a while
Your numbers are way off the mark. The average American show, you have a much higher shot than 25% to get tickets. We know this because many shows don't even sell out the 10C allotment or take more than a day to sell out.
Pretty much you are going to have near a 100% chance of your first choice except for very select markets like NYC and a few others.
how can you honestly say you know this to be true? you dont know how many active 10 Clubbers there are. granted the sample size wouldnt be all (just those who enter for that particular show) but you also dont know the # of tix alotted to members. and because tix come in pairs that cuts the # of total tix/seats in half. thus, your chances as well. most venues have 40-60 thousand seats so im even just guessing that more than 50% is alotted to the fan club. my estimations are just that. but you think you have a basis for accuracy?
btw, my market is the NYC market b/c i live in CT/Northeast so Philly/NYC/Hartford is where I typically go and since those are often easy sell-outs - im saying its possible the lottery will fail those in this area. Not traveling to OH or KY to see a show - that would be a shoe-in
I know this to be true because I have been a 10C member since 1994 and have the benefit of history. I've never been shut out of 10C tickets for a Pearl Jam show.
Secondly, you have no idea what you are talking about. Pearl Jam plays arenas in the US. The average arena holds 17,000 people or so and Pearl Jam gets about 2000 tickets at most per show for the fan club. Ticketmaster limits the number of tickets a fan club can get.
40-60 thousand seat venues are stadiums and Pearl Jam does not play stadiums in the US. Madison Square Garden holds just under 20,000 people for a concert.
the odds of winning tix were 10/100,000+ so i wouldnt discredit the system completely. a real system would be 25,000/100,000+ so odds are a bit better but still not great. i'd rather be in control of my own destiny. if i get shut out on up to 3 dates on the next tour i may consider cancelling my membership, but first they gotta tour which could be a while
Your numbers are way off the mark. The average American show, you have a much higher shot than 25% to get tickets. We know this because many shows don't even sell out the 10C allotment or take more than a day to sell out.
Pretty much you are going to have near a 100% chance of your first choice except for very select markets like NYC and a few others.
how can you honestly say you know this to be true? you dont know how many active 10 Clubbers there are. granted the sample size wouldnt be all (just those who enter for that particular show) but you also dont know the # of tix alotted to members. and because tix come in pairs that cuts the # of total tix/seats in half. thus, your chances as well. most venues have 40-60 thousand seats so im even just guessing that more than 50% is alotted to the fan club. my estimations are just that. but you think you have a basis for accuracy?
btw, my market is the NYC market b/c i live in CT/Northeast so Philly/NYC/Hartford is where I typically go and since those are often easy sell-outs - im saying its possible the lottery will fail those in this area. Not traveling to OH or KY to see a show - that would be a shoe-in
i can't even remember the last time PJ played a 40k seat venue in the US...soldier field 95? Historically speaking, a tenclub member can get in to basically any show they want aside from a couple in the northeast, which are more tricky. also, fan clubs get nowhere near 50% of the venue. I think it is usually about 8%, but PJ negotiates for a slightly higher percentage.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
ok so likely fair to assume that any winner is a prize winner?
As far as I read it, after all the tickets are drawn, there will be another draw for one person per gig. So everyone's name back in the hat for the merch, not just ticket winnners.
" Win Some Rare Merch!
To make this fun, we have included some rare hard-to-find merchandise items that will be given away during the test drawing. Once the drawing entry period has ended, the new ticket system will randomly draw one name for each of the 8 shows entered. Of those 8 winners, each will receive one of the merchandise items listed below assigned at random. "
No, there will only be 9 winners, one for each show. Everyone else will lose. Check the "Events" page:
Monday,January 14th 10am Pacific. The Ticket test is now offline and the drawing entry period has closed. Nine names will be selected to win the merchandise prizes. All other entries will receive an email confirming they were not selected and the authorizations will be canceled releasing funds back to credit cards. Please be sure to fill out the feedback form.
I understand that there will 9 winners of merch - one person per gig. What I am trying to explain is that these winners of the merch will not automatically be a winner of a ticket. The draw for the prizes starts afresh. At least that is how the e-mail sent to us reads. Ellyn's post seems to suggest she/he thinks only ticket winners will be eligible for merch prizes.
but they could create algorithms or formulas to assist the Northeast market so those of us than have been members for 7+ yrs get at least one show. will it happen? no, of course not. the systems will crash anyways lol
Why not 8+ or 9+ or 10+ years? What's the magic of them making sure 7+ years of membership?
i should just say non-NOOB status...there. but MayDay and dimitri get what im saying. Lottery will be great for certain regions and fail others...hopefully it doesnt. but first and foremost, they gotta fix the damn servers or keep the request period open 1-2 weeks the way DMB does. im sure it'll work the same way as the Warehouse - great system. you win some you lose some. one show based on seniority/one based on random for 2-night venues, etc.
2005: Borgata 2, Philly
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
As far as I read it, after all the tickets are drawn, there will be another draw for one person per gig. So everyone's name back in the hat for the merch, not just ticket winnners.
" Win Some Rare Merch!
To make this fun, we have included some rare hard-to-find merchandise items that will be given away during the test drawing. Once the drawing entry period has ended, the new ticket system will randomly draw one name for each of the 8 shows entered. Of those 8 winners, each will receive one of the merchandise items listed below assigned at random. "
No, there will only be 9 winners, one for each show. Everyone else will lose. Check the "Events" page:
Monday,January 14th 10am Pacific. The Ticket test is now offline and the drawing entry period has closed. Nine names will be selected to win the merchandise prizes. All other entries will receive an email confirming they were not selected and the authorizations will be canceled releasing funds back to credit cards. Please be sure to fill out the feedback form.
I understand that there will 9 winners of merch - one person per gig. What I am trying to explain is that these winners of the merch will not automatically be a winner of a ticket. The draw for the prizes starts afresh. At least that is how the e-mail sent to us reads. Ellyn's post seems to suggest she/he thinks only ticket winners will be eligible for merch prizes.
there are no "tickets." the "tickets" that are won are the prizes. 9 people will have "won" on their ticket page. everyone else will have "lost." I was confused by this part initially but it has been cleared up
Not sure why people think the lottery will cause a huge increase in demand for 10C tix.
East coast/Chicago dates will still be the most difficult to get, and based on current history, 10C tickets for most other cities will be easily had.
Instead of the F5 lottery played by people who are at a computer during onsales, everyone now has the opportunity to enter a lottery. Has anything else really changed?
Not sure why people think the lottery will cause a huge increase in demand for 10C tix.
East coast/Chicago dates will still be the most difficult to get, and based on current history, 10C tickets for most other cities will be easily had.
Instead of the F5 lottery played by people who are at a computer during onsales, everyone now has the opportunity to enter a lottery. Has anything else really changed?
Yes its changed. Persistence used to get you tickets, now it doesnt.
Ive been in the fan club since 93, live in the north east, and am terrified of this change.
YES, Id rather refresh for 5 hours and get tickets.
I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
ok i guess i was being generous on capacity figures and fan club alottment. but if its 17,000 and 8% then that makes my point stronger. fewer seats and fewer tix, tix in pairs, and fewer possibilities for highly poplulated 10C regions.
btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.
2005: Borgata 2, Philly
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
Not sure why people think the lottery will cause a huge increase in demand for 10C tix.
East coast/Chicago dates will still be the most difficult to get, and based on current history, 10C tickets for most other cities will be easily had.
Instead of the F5 lottery played by people who are at a computer during onsales, everyone now has the opportunity to enter a lottery. Has anything else really changed?
nothing..more easy fair system only..
there is no serious argument that proves the f5 is better..its not..
again..all 10c tix will go to 10c members..well..not to always the same now..
even i try to score always more than one show,and now will be hard,to impossible,im ok..
more different members get them..but members..great
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
as did i, bro, as did i. thus, why im making my argument about our lottery chances in our area. hoping its all peachy but ever since 2008 tour i've lost a lot of hope in the system.
2005: Borgata 2, Philly
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
well honestly I think this "test" it was more a raffle for 9 prizes... it doesn't make sense if you don't even get a "fake ticket confirmation" that way all of the people that tried to get "seats" will know if this system is better or not, at this point everyone except 9 lucky ones are complaining that this is not working at all... my 5cents, congrats to the winners!!!
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Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
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Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
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Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
there are no "tickets." the "tickets" that are won are the prizes. 9 people will have "won" on their ticket page. everyone else will have "lost." I was confused by this part initially but it has been cleared up
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So are you saying that only 9 people will get an e-mail saying congrats you got a pair of tickets to Mercury - or elsewhere (as opposed to your name didn't get get drawn for the tix)? If so, what is the point of this exercise? I thought this was supposed to mirror a real tour lottery with potentially hundreds of names being picked randomly and the site working as if 'for real', ie your 'My Ticket's would show a good number of 10C members with tickets.
Does anyone else still have "Entered" for all the PJ shows in their tickets page?
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
yep,for exable..
i have slow internet,why someone else will have better chances than me.?.
someone is expert at browser,im not,i know only explorer
i wear 10 different eyeglasses,till i change them to find where the buy button is ,the page frozen or are sold out..
my kids need to go to school,to doctor appoitment..cant waste all day infront of a laptop..
persistance.??i have,but maybe i dont have the time...
this thing now is away better
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
there are no "tickets." the "tickets" that are won are the prizes. 9 people will have "won" on their ticket page. everyone else will have "lost." I was confused by this part initially but it has been cleared up
#
So are you saying that only 9 people will get an e-mail saying congrats you got a pair of tickets to Mercury - or elsewhere (as opposed to your name didn't get get drawn for the tix)? If so, what is the point of this exercise? I thought this was supposed to mirror a real tour lottery with potentially hundreds of names being picked randomly and the site working as if 'for real', ie your 'My Ticket's would show a good number of 10C members with tickets.
It isn't mirroring a real tour, because on a real tour every fan club member doesn't enter for every show. This seems to be a test of the system that we helped them with, and they offered some prizes to get people motivated to help.
I had it pretty well mastered. Never got shut out of 10c tickets. Even landed a package for pj20, MSG Shows, and Spectrums.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
yep,for exable..
i have slow internet,why someone else will have better chances than me.?.
someone is expert at browser,im not,i know only explorer
i wear 10 different eyeglasses,till i change them to find where the buy button is ,the page frozen or are sold out..
my kids need to go to school,to doctor appoitment..cant waste all day infront of a laptop..
persistance.??i have,but maybe i dont have the time...
this thing now is away better
I enjoyed meeting you in Toronto last year, now neither of us will have tickets. I understand what your saying, and itll work better for Grand Rapids, but for any major city, were all now looking at a 10% shot at tix.
Not sure why people think the lottery will cause a huge increase in demand for 10C tix.
East coast/Chicago dates will still be the most difficult to get, and based on current history, 10C tickets for most other cities will be easily had.
Instead of the F5 lottery played by people who are at a computer during onsales, everyone now has the opportunity to enter a lottery. Has anything else really changed?
nothing..more easy fair system only..
there is no serious argument that proves the f5 is better..its not..
again..all 10c tix will go to 10c members..well..not to always the same now..
even i try to score always more than one show,and now will be hard,to impossible,im ok..
more different members get them..but members..great
but it also makes me wonder how many scalpers will sign up for a digital membership just to enter the lottery.
They could also get an analog membership and flip all the goodies like the Deep mag and vinyl single, or any other 'goodies' that are available to members.
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Curious...why 7?
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Joined: 02 Oct 2005 01:39
I know this to be true because I have been a 10C member since 1994 and have the benefit of history. I've never been shut out of 10C tickets for a Pearl Jam show.
Secondly, you have no idea what you are talking about. Pearl Jam plays arenas in the US. The average arena holds 17,000 people or so and Pearl Jam gets about 2000 tickets at most per show for the fan club. Ticketmaster limits the number of tickets a fan club can get.
40-60 thousand seat venues are stadiums and Pearl Jam does not play stadiums in the US. Madison Square Garden holds just under 20,000 people for a concert.
i can't even remember the last time PJ played a 40k seat venue in the US...soldier field 95? Historically speaking, a tenclub member can get in to basically any show they want aside from a couple in the northeast, which are more tricky. also, fan clubs get nowhere near 50% of the venue. I think it is usually about 8%, but PJ negotiates for a slightly higher percentage.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I understand that there will 9 winners of merch - one person per gig. What I am trying to explain is that these winners of the merch will not automatically be a winner of a ticket. The draw for the prizes starts afresh. At least that is how the e-mail sent to us reads. Ellyn's post seems to suggest she/he thinks only ticket winners will be eligible for merch prizes.
i should just say non-NOOB status...there. but MayDay and dimitri get what im saying. Lottery will be great for certain regions and fail others...hopefully it doesnt. but first and foremost, they gotta fix the damn servers or keep the request period open 1-2 weeks the way DMB does. im sure it'll work the same way as the Warehouse - great system. you win some you lose some. one show based on seniority/one based on random for 2-night venues, etc.
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
there are no "tickets." the "tickets" that are won are the prizes. 9 people will have "won" on their ticket page. everyone else will have "lost." I was confused by this part initially but it has been cleared up
East coast/Chicago dates will still be the most difficult to get, and based on current history, 10C tickets for most other cities will be easily had.
Instead of the F5 lottery played by people who are at a computer during onsales, everyone now has the opportunity to enter a lottery. Has anything else really changed?
Yes its changed. Persistence used to get you tickets, now it doesnt.
Ive been in the fan club since 93, live in the north east, and am terrified of this change.
YES, Id rather refresh for 5 hours and get tickets.
There was a degree of persistance. Sometimes (PJ20) lasting many many hours. There were also various tricks that would give you a better shot, such as clearing your temp internet files, figuring out the furthest page in the string where the tickets would be, knowing where the BUY button would be located, and using the best browser.
btw: if phish sold out 4 nights of MSG and that attendance was 100,000+ total doesnt that mean MSG holds at least 25K? and how do you put a figure on lawn-accessible venues? thats sorta how i was basing my figures - based on the shows i've seen. once again, ive never seen a show on the west coast or midwest where venues may only hold 17,000.
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
there is no serious argument that proves the f5 is better..its not..
again..all 10c tix will go to 10c members..well..not to always the same now..
even i try to score always more than one show,and now will be hard,to impossible,im ok..
more different members get them..but members..great
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
as did i, bro, as did i. thus, why im making my argument about our lottery chances in our area. hoping its all peachy but ever since 2008 tour i've lost a lot of hope in the system.
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
So are you saying that only 9 people will get an e-mail saying congrats you got a pair of tickets to Mercury - or elsewhere (as opposed to your name didn't get get drawn for the tix)? If so, what is the point of this exercise? I thought this was supposed to mirror a real tour lottery with potentially hundreds of names being picked randomly and the site working as if 'for real', ie your 'My Ticket's would show a good number of 10C members with tickets.
LOST for everything else
i have slow internet,why someone else will have better chances than me.?.
someone is expert at browser,im not,i know only explorer
i wear 10 different eyeglasses,till i change them to find where the buy button is ,the page frozen or are sold out..
my kids need to go to school,to doctor appoitment..cant waste all day infront of a laptop..
persistance.??i have,but maybe i dont have the time...
this thing now is away better
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I dont mind this lotto
It isn't mirroring a real tour, because on a real tour every fan club member doesn't enter for every show. This seems to be a test of the system that we helped them with, and they offered some prizes to get people motivated to help.
I enjoyed meeting you in Toronto last year, now neither of us will have tickets. I understand what your saying, and itll work better for Grand Rapids, but for any major city, were all now looking at a 10% shot at tix.
but it also makes me wonder how many scalpers will sign up for a digital membership just to enter the lottery.
They could also get an analog membership and flip all the goodies like the Deep mag and vinyl single, or any other 'goodies' that are available to members.
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