Received email from 10C RE ticket drawing

Yellow Bedwetter wrote:

under EV all 4 say "LOST" but under the PJ and Amongst they each still say "ENTERED" - i wonder if thats good considering most ppl says LOST for PJ tour. prolly not tho lol

it means you still have a glimmer of hope.

Don't forget to leave feedback here:
http://pearljam.com/feedback

so anyone who gets tickets automatically gets a prize? don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the people who won one of the items, but I would've liked a "real" lottery test, one that gives us an actual idea as to how likely we are to get tickets.

Luckytwn1 wrote:

Yellow Bedwetter wrote:

the odds of winning tix were 10/100,000+ so i wouldnt discredit the system completely. a real system would be 25,000/100,000+ so odds are a bit better but still not great. i'd rather be in control of my own destiny. if i get shut out on up to 3 dates on the next tour i may consider cancelling my membership, but first they gotta tour which could be a while

Your numbers are way off the mark. The average American show, you have a much higher shot than 25% to get tickets. We know this because many shows don't even sell out the 10C allotment or take more than a day to sell out.

Pretty much you are going to have near a 100% chance of your first choice except for very select markets like NYC and a few others.

how can you honestly say you know this to be true? you dont know how many active 10 Clubbers there are. granted the sample size wouldnt be all (just those who enter for that particular show) but you also dont know the # of tix alotted to members. and because tix come in pairs that cuts the # of total tix/seats in half. thus, your chances as well. most venues have 40-60 thousand seats so im even just guessing that more than 50% is alotted to the fan club. my estimations are just that. but you think you have a basis for accuracy?

btw, my market is the NYC market b/c i live in CT/Northeast so Philly/NYC/Hartford is where I typically go and since those are often easy sell-outs - im saying its possible the lottery will fail those in this area. Not traveling to OH or KY to see a show - that would be a shoe-in

Kathi wrote:

so anyone who gets tickets automatically gets a prize? don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the people who won one of the items, but I would've liked a "real" lottery test, one that gives us an actual idea as to how likely we are to get tickets.

9 winners of thousands worldwide..is a test for the new system..
maybe they do one with out prize..we dont know how and what 10c thinks about the test,and what they looking to see or how working..lets wait

too many factors involved. How many shows, how many in proximity. Day of the week. Population, etc....

A one off show in MSG on a Saturday night is much different than a Tuesday night show in Cleveland in a 25 stop US tour.


I dont think they can simulate the exact ratios. Especially if everyone is encouraged to enter all the shows.

Kathi wrote:

so anyone who gets tickets automatically gets a prize? don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the people who won one of the items, but I would've liked a "real" lottery test, one that gives us an actual idea as to how likely we are to get tickets.

Yes.. that's what's on the events page:

http://pearljam.com/tenclub/events

Monday,January 14th 10am Pacific. The Ticket test is now offline and the drawing entry period has closed. Nine names will be selected to win the merchandise prizes. All other entries will receive an email confirming they were not selected and the authorizations will be canceled releasing funds back to credit cards. Please be sure to fill out the feedback form.

dimitrispearljam wrote:

ellyn27 wrote:

ok so likely fair to assume that any winner is a prize winner?

Yes

As far as I read it, after all the tickets are drawn, there will be another draw for one person per gig. So everyone's name back in the hat for the merch, not just ticket winnners.

"
Win Some Rare Merch!

To make this fun, we have included some rare hard-to-find merchandise items that will be given away during the test drawing. Once the drawing entry period has ended, the new ticket system will randomly draw one name for each of the 8 shows entered. Of those 8 winners, each will receive one of the merchandise items listed below assigned at random.
 
"

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Yellow Bedwetter wrote:

how can you honestly say you know this to be true? you dont know how many active 10 Clubbers there are. granted the sample size wouldnt be all (just those who enter for that particular show) but you also dont know the # of tix alotted to members. and because tix come in pairs that cuts the # of total tix/seats in half. thus, your chances as well. most venues have 40-60 thousand seats so im even just guessing that more than 50% is alotted to the fan club. my estimations are just that. but you think you have a basis for accuracy?

we saw that in previous sales ..some areas dont sell out right away like northeast..
i understand the northeast thing,but the system is for all the usa and the rest of the planet..
they can not make a ticket system,only for a part of america

but they could create algorithms or formulas to assist the Northeast market so those of us than have been members for 7+ yrs get at least one show. will it happen? no, of course not. the systems will crash anyways lol

Yellow Bedwetter wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Yellow Bedwetter wrote:

how can you honestly say you know this to be true? you dont know how many active 10 Clubbers there are. granted the sample size wouldnt be all (just those who enter for that particular show) but you also dont know the # of tix alotted to members. and because tix come in pairs that cuts the # of total tix/seats in half. thus, your chances as well. most venues have 40-60 thousand seats so im even just guessing that more than 50% is alotted to the fan club. my estimations are just that. but you think you have a basis for accuracy?

we saw that in previous sales ..some areas dont sell out right away like northeast..
i understand the northeast thing,but the system is for all the usa and the rest of the planet..
they can not make a ticket system,only for a part of america

but they could create algorithms or formulas to assist the Northeast market so those of us than have been members for 7+ yrs get at least one show. will it happen? no, of course not. the systems will crash anyways lol

Why not 8+ or 9+ or 10+ years? What's the magic of them making sure 7+ years of membership?