Pearl Jam- New Ticket Drawing System Update/ New Merch Item

Get_Right · January 2013

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

just go with ticketmaster already. that was 17 years ago.

Yep!! Not sure why we are reinventing the wheel here.

Because TM is now not only corrupt, they are scalpers too!

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

Get_Right wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

just go with ticketmaster already. that was 17 years ago.

Yep!! Not sure why we are reinventing the wheel here.

Because TM is now not only corrupt, they are scalpers too!

Eroom21 · January 2013

I am still not feeling this lottery system, especially if the only city you live near is Toronto. I can understand if you have multiple show condesnsed into a small area. So JP will probably do 2 nights in Toronto, and I don't think TM sell out of tickets right away. Now, I am sure some people will say that I could get my tickets through TM if I don't get tickets through the lottery, but I would say to them I have my 10c membership so I don't have to deal with TM, I have it so I can get good tickets. I don't pay for a 10c membership for the chance to enter a lottery.

Obviously I will try the lottery system, but I remain highly skeptical. ANd I don't understand why some people seem to have such a problem with senority.

EdsonNascimento · January 2013

Get_Right wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

just go with ticketmaster already. that was 17 years ago.

Yep!! Not sure why we are reinventing the wheel here.

Because TM is now not only corrupt, they are scalpers too!

Except they use them for the general sale. So, what's the difference?

And, let's get off the scalping crap. If these concerts were priced properly to begin with, that wouldn't be an issue. You can't play the - we want to make it affordable card FOLLOWED by the - why are others making money off us card. Not saying PJ themselves do. And not saying the former is a BAD thing necessarily. But, you can't have it both ways. The market will bear what it will bear. Move on with your lives.

EdsonNascimento · January 2013

Eroom21 wrote:

Obviously I will try the lottery system, but I remain highly skeptical. ANd I don't understand why some people seem to have such a problem with senority.

If you were 20 years old, you'd understand. Step into other folks' shoes once in a while. They tend to be uncomfortable at first, but you'll work them in.

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

Eroom21 wrote:

I am still not feeling this lottery system, especially if the only city you live near is Toronto. I can understand if you have multiple show condesnsed into a small area. So JP will probably do 2 nights in Toronto, and I don't think TM sell out of tickets right away. Now, I am sure some people will say that I could get my tickets through TM if I don't get tickets through the lottery, but I would say to them I have my 10c membership so I don't have to deal with TM, I have it so I can get good tickets. I don't pay for a 10c membership for the chance to enter a lottery.

Obviously I will try the lottery system, but I remain highly skeptical. ANd I don't understand why some people seem to have such a problem with senority.

yes,but who said that with the previous system you will get tix??
lottery or not,10c has some fan club tix to sell..ALL no matter the method will sale them,goes to 10c members..
before tix goes to the lucky ones that their pc wasnt frozen,crach,need to be specific time to your pc for the presale,f5 for hours,
now tix goes to the people are lucky at the lottery,and dont have to torture themself to get a fan club tix..

with the previous system,same with the now system,the 10c members wanna see the show and didnt score,buy from ticketmaster or get spares from 10c members that scored tix..

and seniority is a reward to the members are at 10c alot of years in the row..i agree to that..
but used only to the ones score tix already..
chances to score tix ,must be fair to all 10c members..not matter seniority

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

EdsonNascimento wrote:

And, let's get off the scalping crap. If these concerts were priced properly to begin with, that wouldn't be an issue. .

you mean,to have different prices by section of the venue?

EdsonNascimento · January 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

And, let's get off the scalping crap. If these concerts were priced properly to begin with, that wouldn't be an issue. .

you mean,to have different prices by section of the venue?

Yes.

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Eroom21 wrote:

Obviously I will try the lottery system, but I remain highly skeptical. ANd I don't understand why some people seem to have such a problem with senority.

If you were 20 years old, you'd understand. Step into other folks' shoes once in a while. They tend to be uncomfortable at first, but you'll work them in.

yes..unfortunetely the ones born at 90's they will never see a show close,except win 1,2-9,10 rows lottery
only at usa - canada shows..the rest of the world,dont have this problem

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

EdsonNascimento wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

And, let's get off the scalping crap. If these concerts were priced properly to begin with, that wouldn't be an issue. .

you mean,to have different prices by section of the venue?

Yes.

is tis a band issue??promoters?venue?
you mean ticketmaster tix?or fanclub tix??
cos let say fan club tix,at MSG...first rows,will be so expensive...

EdsonNascimento · January 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Eroom21 wrote:

Obviously I will try the lottery system, but I remain highly skeptical. ANd I don't understand why some people seem to have such a problem with senority.

If you were 20 years old, you'd understand. Step into other folks' shoes once in a while. They tend to be uncomfortable at first, but you'll work them in.

yes..unfortunetely the ones born at 90's they will never see a show close,except win 1,2-9,10 rows lottery
only at usa - canada shows..the rest of the world,dont have this problem

And the funny thing is, that's a good way to limit the growth of the club. Quite frankly, I wouldn't join at this point where I live. The general sale will be just as good if not better seats, and I wouldn't have to wonder if I was getting them.

Nice to reward longevity. I get that. But, maybe it should be reverse. First 15-20 rows are random then start seniority. We'd still wind up guaranteed good seats, but the truly great seats would be "shared." Instead of 4 rows make it the first 15 or 20 (or 10, or whatever).

EdsonNascimento · January 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

you mean,to have different prices by section of the venue?

Yes.

is tis a band issue??promoters?venue?
you mean ticketmaster tix?or fanclub tix??
cos let say fan club tix,at MSG...first rows,will be so expensive...

Yes. All of them. And, I'm well aware of your last point. So what? (realizing I am becoming the least popular 10C member moment by moment).

pjsteelerfan · January 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Eroom21 wrote:

I am still not feeling this lottery system, especially if the only city you live near is Toronto. I can understand if you have multiple show condesnsed into a small area. So JP will probably do 2 nights in Toronto, and I don't think TM sell out of tickets right away. Now, I am sure some people will say that I could get my tickets through TM if I don't get tickets through the lottery, but I would say to them I have my 10c membership so I don't have to deal with TM, I have it so I can get good tickets. I don't pay for a 10c membership for the chance to enter a lottery.

Obviously I will try the lottery system, but I remain highly skeptical. ANd I don't understand why some people seem to have such a problem with senority.

yes,but who said that with the previous system you will get tix??
lottery or not,10c has some fan club tix to sell..ALL no matter the method will sale them,goes to 10c members..
before tix goes to the lucky ones that their pc wasnt frozen,crach,need to be specific time to your pc for the presale,f5 for hours,
now tix goes to the people are lucky at the lottery,and dont have to torture themself to get a fan club tix..

with the previous system,same with the now system,the 10c members wanna see the show and didnt score,buy from ticketmaster or get spares from 10c members that scored tix..

and seniority is a reward to the members are at 10c alot of years in the row..i agree to that..
but used only to the ones score tix already..
chances to score tix ,must be fair to all 10c members..not matter seniority

That is just it, I don't see the ranking system as fair to everyone, it is great in out of the way places, it is not in the heavily populated areas. If using a lottery- it would be better to just do a true lottery for every show.

And as for everyone keep saying just get a spare here, not everyone goes to shows solo.

Get_Right · January 2013

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Except they use them for the general sale. So, what's the difference?

And, let's get off the scalping crap. If these concerts were priced properly to begin with, that wouldn't be an issue. You can't play the - we want to make it affordable card FOLLOWED by the - why are others making money off us card. Not saying PJ themselves do. And not saying the former is a BAD thing necessarily. But, you can't have it both ways. The market will bear what it will bear. Move on with your lives.

Oh but they do. And there is no choice because you can't plan an arena "tour" and not use TM.

Get_Right · January 2013

The new system will achieve what I would guess the band wants......a higher percentage of members getting 10c tix to at least one show.

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

pjsteelerfan wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Eroom21 wrote:

I am still not feeling this lottery system, especially if the only city you live near is Toronto. I can understand if you have multiple show condesnsed into a small area. So JP will probably do 2 nights in Toronto, and I don't think TM sell out of tickets right away. Now, I am sure some people will say that I could get my tickets through TM if I don't get tickets through the lottery, but I would say to them I have my 10c membership so I don't have to deal with TM, I have it so I can get good tickets. I don't pay for a 10c membership for the chance to enter a lottery.

Obviously I will try the lottery system, but I remain highly skeptical. ANd I don't understand why some people seem to have such a problem with senority.

yes,but who said that with the previous system you will get tix??
lottery or not,10c has some fan club tix to sell..ALL no matter the method will sale them,goes to 10c members..
before tix goes to the lucky ones that their pc wasnt frozen,crach,need to be specific time to your pc for the presale,f5 for hours,
now tix goes to the people are lucky at the lottery,and dont have to torture themself to get a fan club tix..

with the previous system,same with the now system,the 10c members wanna see the show and didnt score,buy from ticketmaster or get spares from 10c members that scored tix..

and seniority is a reward to the members are at 10c alot of years in the row..i agree to that..
but used only to the ones score tix already..
chances to score tix ,must be fair to all 10c members..not matter seniority

That is just it, I don't see the ranking system as fair to everyone, it is great in out of the way places, it is not in the heavily populated areas. If using a lottery- it would be better to just do a true lottery for every show.

And as for everyone keep saying just get a spare here, not everyone goes to shows solo.

i agree about the ranking system...
but if you dont score 10c tix ,no matter the system they sell them,you need to buy them somewhere..
isnt lottery issue that someone will not score tix..
not all 10c members are at shows,score 10c tickets..happens all the time,with all the ticket saling system

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

Get_Right wrote:

The new system will achieve what I would guess the band wants......a higher percentage of members getting 10c tix to at least one show.

i post this before,i think the same,this must be the reason why they did it..

tinz. · January 2013

What new merch is in the shop?

EdsonNascimento · January 2013

Get_Right wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Except they use them for the general sale. So, what's the difference?

And, let's get off the scalping crap. If these concerts were priced properly to begin with, that wouldn't be an issue. You can't play the - we want to make it affordable card FOLLOWED by the - why are others making money off us card. Not saying PJ themselves do. And not saying the former is a BAD thing necessarily. But, you can't have it both ways. The market will bear what it will bear. Move on with your lives.

Oh but they do. And there is no choice because you can't plan an arena "tour" and not use TM.

No - I meant that I wasn't saying PJ was making those COMMENTS that immediately preceded that. My original sentence indicates they use TM. That's the silliness of all this. We're making fire, but we don't want to use matches for our members because matches start forest fires. But, once we're done with that, the matches are fine because we realize that's a more efficient way to have a fire/tour. It's cukoo.

dimitrispearljam · January 2013

EdsonNascimento wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

is tis a band issue??promoters?venue?
you mean ticketmaster tix?or fanclub tix??
cos let say fan club tix,at MSG...first rows,will be so expensive...

Yes. All of them. And, I'm well aware of your last point. So what? (realizing I am becoming the least popular 10C member moment by moment).

lol on the last comment..

how this will work in lottery??..and if goes like that,i think 1-2 rows will not bew lottery,for members..
cos those rows bring the most cash..
and how young members can afford expensive tix??
so,the same old people will be upfront!!

Pearl Jam- New Ticket Drawing System Update/ New Merch Item

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