This generation and priorites

PureandEasy wrote:

DURP wrote:

I'm not hip so i quit trying to figure out people under the age of 30.

and I fully explained the process to her, I'm sure she'll eventually get around to it :fp:

Hey man like I said i quit trying to figure them out.

My brother was out of work and broke and getting ready to get evicted from his apt. My wife was working for Kelly services and told him she could get him a job. She would call him and no answer then his phone got shut off. So she emailed him and told him to come down fill out the app and you can start working tmw. She even offered to go get him on her lunch bring him to the office and then take him back. He didn't want to made up some bs excuse.

We have the same parents but they raised us with two different styles. My dad would beat my ass tell me how stupid i was and all kinds of loving abilities. My brother was held and told how special he was. Yeah I don't work because of my injuries from the Army but when I was his age (23) I was living on my own in Georgia a Sgt in the Army and paying all my bills and living a good life. He lives at home and mom makes excuses for him. "Oh he hasn't found his drive yet" or "He's not ready to make a career choice" I have no idea what that last one means.

Yeah he's the baby I get that, but he's not the only kid his age that acts that way. I know not every person under 30 is lazy and has a sense of self entitlement but it seems like there are more younger people saying gimme gimme gimme.......gimme some more (Yeah I'm doing Black Flag references) and it's sad.

Okay enough of my old man rant.

DURP wrote:

Yeah he's the baby I get that, but he's not the only kid his age that acts that way. I know not every person under 30 is lazy and has a sense of self entitlement but it seems like there are more younger people saying gimme gimme gimme.......gimme some more (Yeah I'm doing Black Flag references) and it's sad.

Okay enough of my old man rant.

You are welcome to come sit next to me while I'm at work and give every student your old man rant.

drivingrl wrote:

DURP wrote:

Yeah he's the baby I get that, but he's not the only kid his age that acts that way. I know not every person under 30 is lazy and has a sense of self entitlement but it seems like there are more younger people saying gimme gimme gimme.......gimme some more (Yeah I'm doing Black Flag references) and it's sad.

Okay enough of my old man rant.

You are welcome to come sit next to me while I'm at work and give every student your old man rant.

I'm sure it would be well received.

SK359828 wrote:

Don't forget this is also the generation of over parenting. Carlin knew it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2Y4PzTCOc

Plus, is there any chance this person simply doesn't care about this job? Drop the leash!

Don't forget that everyone is a winner. Even if your kids sport team goes 0 and whatever they all still get a trophy. Which in my opinion sets them up for failure in life. Yeah it sucked playing sports and losing but it helped later in life in dealing with obsticles in life and knowing that if you get knocked down you can get up.

Getting a trophy, ribbon or whatever for just showing up sends the wrong message. Winners get trophies and the loosers have to work harder to get that trophy. Seriously what's next? Every single major sports team getting thier respective leagues trophy because we don't want anyone's feelings hurt?

kw18 wrote:

The only caveat I have with this is that it shouldn't be centered on winning, at least not with kids. Losing a meet or a match or whatever sucks, but to just leave it at "you should have tried harder" is a world of suck. I see a lot of kids try harder than others with "natural" talent and they still fall short. That doesn't mean they're not winners, in my book.

Fair enough I get that. I guess I was ranting about football. My friend her son plays in a league and his team went undefeated which they deserve trophies. On the flip side there is a team that didn't win a single game yet all of those players get trophies. The league also gives out trophies for kids who led the league in thier postion stats. There is no MVP trophy which I think is good.

Her son asked me all about football at the start of the season. I told him alot of things but I gave him my best advice. "It's just a game go out and have fun and do your best" a coach throwing a pizza party for the kids at the end of the season is fine. He or she could make the kids feel awesome by saying how good they did and yadda yadda yadda. But to give a trophy just for showing up like you said takes away from those who did something and worked harder.

PureandEasy wrote:

SK359828 wrote:

Don't forget this is also the generation of over parenting. Carlin knew it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2Y4PzTCOc

Plus, is there any chance this person simply doesn't care about this job? Drop the leash!

Caring about this job or not doesn't matter, SHE'S ENTITLED TO THESE BENEFITS, REGARDLESS IF SHE COMES BACK TO WORK OR NOT

it's FREE MONEY


you should be so lucky to have someone that cares that much about you that wants to make sure you get what you deserve and gets frustrated when you don't take advantage of it

I hear ya man, and I agree. I also see it's bothering you. You've done what you can, and your generosity is not being appreciated/reciprocated. So my comment was to you: drop the leash, I'm sure you could focus your care on people that could use it and be grateful for it.

Mamasan23 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Maybe she took it literally when someone said to her "Your life as you know it, is over after having kids."

It's not?

Just keep on assuming it is, just to be on the safe side. No need to risk it.

DS1119 wrote:

kw18 wrote:

DURP wrote:

Don't forget that everyone is a winner. Even if your kids sport team goes 0 and whatever they all still get a trophy. Which in my opinion sets them up for failure in life. Yeah it sucked playing sports and losing but it helped later in life in dealing with obsticles in life and knowing that if you get knocked down you can get up.

Getting a trophy, ribbon or whatever for just showing up sends the wrong message. Winners get trophies and the loosers have to work harder to get that trophy. Seriously what's next? Every single major sports team getting thier respective leagues trophy because we don't want anyone's feelings hurt?

I mostly agree. I coach on a swim team and at the end of the every year we hold a banquet and every kid gets a trophy. My boss (who is in her mid-20s) insists on this instead doing a small number of "most improved" or "team spirit" trophies or something.

Her main concern is that some kids will feel left out, to which I respond good! Maybe those kids will work harder next year. Plus, it allows the kids who actually get the award to feel proud at being recognized. Otherwise, the kid who worked her butt off all season gets the same trophy as the kid who didn't try hard at all; how is that fair?

The only caveat I have with this is that it shouldn't be centered on winning, at least not with kids. Losing a meet or a match or whatever sucks, but to just leave it at "you should have tried harder" is a world of suck. I see a lot of kids try harder than others with "natural" talent and they still fall short. That doesn't mean they're not winners, in my book.

My solution with this is easy. Only the winning person gets a trophy. All of the rest of the kids are lined up based by accomplishment. The lowest 25% are taken out back and permantly eliminated.

Darwinism children-rearing, by DS. Nice!