THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES...

cowboypjfan wrote:

jamminpearls wrote:

A simple comment led to this :? Can't say i'm surprised though. And i'd take Cowher,Gruden,but Winston Moss deserves a shot imo.

I'd love to see Gruden get back into coaching so I don't have to hear his boring commentary on Monday's. This 49ers team and these 49ers...This ALdon Smith guy reminds me of a young....blah blah blah...

speaking of that 49'ers team, what about that vic fangio? he'll surely get some interviews this off season. i would think ray horton might as well.

if garret gets canned, who would you like to replace him?

cowboypjfan wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

cowboypjfan wrote:

I'd love to see Gruden get back into coaching so I don't have to hear his boring commentary on Monday's. This 49ers team and these 49ers...This ALdon Smith guy reminds me of a young....blah blah blah...

speaking of that 49'ers team, what about that vic fangio? he'll surely get some interviews this off season. i would think ray horton might as well.

if garret gets canned, who would you like to replace him?

Honestly, I haven't given that one much thought. Horton seems like a decent name but Perry Fewell or Chip Kelly seem like viable candidates. I think JJ has it in his silly head that he must give a coach three seasons to prove themselves. At season's end, it will be 2.5 for Garrett so we'll see how they finish before I can give you a more accurate opinion.

Who you like if Reid is done?

3? try 14...

i'm open to any of those names really. spags, fangio and possibly horton are intriguing to me. not thrilled with the idea of a college coach due to the track record that exists for them in this league already. kelly and david shaw are names you hear tossed around. if they go with a big name retread, i'd prefer billick or gruden to cowher. not sure lurie would go that route though. should be interesting.

jamminpearls wrote:

The Vick-Foles and Reid-new coach story is very easy. With Reid and Vick Philly will never win a super bowl. With Foles and ? we might. It's time to find out if the next chapter can have a story book ending. Because the book were reading now has the same ending as the past 13yrs.

i'm not as optimistic on foles as, seemingly, everyone with a pulse in this area is but the season is almost to the point where you make a move, i think.

would you do it in the superdome on a monday night though? with that line and all the silent snaps he'd have to make? he might get killed. i think the better option is the dallas game, with the home crowd behind him, assuming they lose in new orleans. or maybe the panthers monday nighter if they lose 2 of their next 3.

fully expecting reid to finally call a consistent balanced attack after he makes the switch. :roll:

the curious case of one, daniel watkins:

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eag ... ead_o.html

Eagles’ drafting of Danny Watkins in first round looks like mistake


If they were drinking truth serum down at the NovaCare, instead of the usual mix of delusion and denial, the Eagles would admit that they shouldn’t have drafted Danny Watkins in the first round of the 2011 draft.

As is often the case, getting Andy Reid and company to say they goofed isn’t easy.

Sometimes, the Eagles coach doesn’t have to say a word. His actions speak louder. Then there are those times when you have to connect the dots.

With Watkins, it’s too early to label the offensive lineman a bust, even if he turns 28 in two days. But in his first 18 games, the guard has shown little to suggest he is of Pro Bowl caliber, which is the bar teams often set for interior linemen selected so high.

Adding intrigue to Watkins’ standing is an ankle that Reid called “chronic” Oct. 26 after he missed his first two practices of the season because of the injury. Reid said it was an injury Watkins had for years, one he said he knew about before the draft.

“This will pass here,” Reid said Thursday. “It’s not where it’s going to be career-ending.”

Both of Watkins’ agents were asked if they knew of a chronic ankle.

“First I ever heard of it,” said Joe Panos, a former Eagles offensive lineman.

“I recall Danny had a completely clean medical,” Eric Metz said in an e-mail, “which contributed to so many clubs giving him a first-round grade.”
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Watkins declined to answer questions about his ankle, he said Friday, because “coach doesn’t want us talking about injuries.”

Earlier Friday, Reid said that he chose the wrong word — chronic, “marked by long duration or frequent recurrence,” as defined by Webster’s — in describing the ankle. He said that Watkins had a history of ankle injuries — two sprains on each leg while in college.

But Watkins had more than just ankle sprains in college, according to a source within the Baylor University program. He had a broken bone in one of his ankles during his senior season. Watkins hardly practiced during the week, but didn’t miss a game, the source said. The injury went unreported.

The Eagles had no comment on Watkins’ broken bone.

Watkins started in all 25 games during his two years at Baylor University. He played in 22 of 23 games at Butte (Calif.) Junior College. There had never been any mention of his having an ankle injury until Oct. 25, when he sat out practice.

Reid said Watkins first “tweaked” his ankle during the Lions game Oct. 14. He said the guard played with the injury. The Detroit game, in which the Eagles blew a 10-point with five minutes to play, has been cited as a low point for Watkins and the offensive line.

Reid didn’t mention Watkins’ injury after the game or the Monday after, although he isn’t required by the league. The Eagles, after the bye week, didn’t resume practice until Oct. 22. Watkins practiced, according to Reid, although it was a light workout.

He practiced again Oct. 24 but was listed on the injury report with an “ankle,” although he was deemed a full participant. Watkins was then held out the next two days after Reid said the ankle wasn’t feeling right on Oct. 25.

“I really don’t know [what happened], to tell you the truth,” Watkins said Friday. “I can’t start practicing and then we went in and looked at it and they said, ‘Yeah, you [injured] your ankle.’”

Watkins had been listed as doubtful for Sunday’s game against the Falcons and rookie Dennis Kelly started in his place. Kelly will earn his second career start on Monday night in New Orleans. Watkins was listed as out.

Reid was asked Thursday if Watkins would retain his starting position when he returns from injury, but the coach gave an ambiguous answer. “We’ll see how he feels once he gets in there,” he said.

Because Kelly was competent against Atlanta — with the assistance of a game plan that featured quick throws — some have celebrated the possible end of Watkins’ run at right guard. He has struggled. Pro Football Focus ranks him 51st out of the 57 guards in pass-blocking.

But to cheer Watkins’ demise would be missing the big picture — that the Eagles appear to have wasted another first-round pick and are paying the price. A fifth-round rookie like Kelly shouldn’t start ahead of a top pick in his second season.

Watkins was projected by many analysts to be a late- first- to early-second-round pick before the draft. Sports Illustrated’s Peter King predicted Watkins would go the Eagles with the 26th overall selection, which is where the Birds picked him.

But there were obvious concerns. Watkins had played football for only four years, first picking up the game when he attended Butte to study fire sciences. The Eagles also wanted to move him from left tackle to right guard, and to do so while learning Howard Mudd’s new blocking technique.

By the end of last season, Watkins appeared to be progressing. The line was clicking. But then Jason Peters ruptured his Achilles and Jason Kelce tore his ACL, and the entire unit — not just Watkins — became inconsistent.

But the firefighter was supposed to be an anchor. Instead, he’s dragging Reid to the bottom, along with a number of the coach’s dubious draft picks.

If Watkins doesn’t start sometime soon, either because of the injury or a benching, it could be interpreted as Reid’s cutting the Canadian loose to save himself.

Mistakes are orphans, but that would own up to a blunder — whoever’s it is.