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Prince Of Dorkness · October 2012

The president hasn't obtusely shouted about all his accomplishments and landed on air craft carriers to grandstand and say "mission accomplished." And because of that, most people who don't pay attention think he doesn't do anything.

And when he DOES do some campaigning, he is accused of grandstanding.

Every candidate for the last 30 years has gone on talk shows and done interviews. Bill Clinton played the saxophone on Jay Leno. John McCain did letterman and Jon Stewart and yes... John McCain went on Ellen Degeneres and The View.

Why are we only hearing republicans whine about this now? Because Mitt Romney is scared to go on The View and Letterman because he knows he will be asked an off-script question and he'll say something that shows him to be an obnoxious plutocrat like he did yesterday when he said that "nobody dies in their apartment because they don't have health insurance." :fp:

So to divert attention from the horrible candidate they have, Republicans cry about the 15-minute interview that the president did and try to suggest he blew off a meeting with "world leaders." That's all they have.

mikepegg44 · October 2012

pandora wrote:

It is his attitude of being unavailable so he can be a family man

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how can anyone honestly have a problem with this? there are WAY too many

there are 24 hours in a day...how many should we allow him to sleep? how long is too long to eat?

you can look at it another way Pandora, he is sacrificing when he does that, if some have their way, he will have sacrificed the office of the President because he didn't do a good job. Apparently we can point to being a dad as part of the reason he wasn't good at his job. That is ridiculous.

I applaud this attitude and wish more people would make that sacrifice.

Halifax2TheMax · October 2012

I'll take it from Obama, when asked to describe his typical day, when he replied in the interviewer that he gets up around 6:00 a.m. sees the kids at breakfast before they go to school, works all day, has dinner with the family around 6:00ish to 9:00ish and then goes back down to the oval office until midnight or 1:00 a.m. I paraphrased and if I can find the interview, I'll post it.

I'd rather take his word for it than "some other source in the know." Also, shouldn't these folks who are so interested in building bridges and developing relationships and such make themselves available for the president? On his terms and when he's available? I mean, he is the "Leader of the Free World" right?

Willard Mitt Romney can't win with an honest discussion of the issues (stance on abortion anyone?) so he and his team resort to the portrayal of the president as aloof and disconnected because he has dinner with his family. Fatherhood is forever. The presidency is for 8 years.

Peace.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · October 2012

pandora wrote:

hmmmm....
I think you might be confused as to exactly how this is going down?
Perhaps that is why it is beyond your comprehension.

There are some good articles on the subject if you would like to remain unbiased
and learn what the other half knows as fact.

it is beyond my comprehension because it is utterly ludicrous that people actually give a shit about this. does that make it clearer for you?

Hugh Freaking Dillon · October 2012

Halifax2TheMax wrote:

I'll take it from Obama, when asked to describe his typical day, when he replied in the interviewer that he gets up around 6:00 a.m. sees the kids at breakfast before they go to school, works all day, has dinner with the family around 6:00ish to 9:00ish and then goes back down to the oval office until midnight or 1:00 a.m. I paraphrased and if I can find the interview, I'll post it.

thank you. this is exactly the point I was making.

Prince Of Dorkness · October 2012

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

it is beyond my comprehension because it is utterly ludicrous that people actually give a shit about this. does that make it clearer for you?

Because it's not like they can talk about the positions of the candidates on particular issues.

Mitt Romney changes his positions in the span of hours. So instead, they make up phony stories like this.

http://aggravatedjasun.tumblr.com/post/33370775362

PJ_Soul · October 2012

pandora wrote:

chadwick wrote:

pandora wrote:

Does he think he is a celebrity? I think that happens with our blue Presidents.
It come from hanging with all those hollywood types and maybe being kind of cute

I wonder if Reagan did that ... he was a hollywood type.

all leaders are treated differently than us common folk. democrat or republican, they all are catered to and such. it isn't just obama and other democrats that have celebrity status.

I just have never see a Republican be like a celeb... not like the Democrats
they are chummy with hollywood ... the super wealthy I should add.

That's only because most of Hollywood strongly supports the Democrats. I guarantee you that if Hollywood leaned right, the Republicans would be all over that.

cincybearcat · October 2012

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

The president hasn't obtusely shouted about all his accomplishments and landed on air craft carriers to grandstand and say "mission accomplished." And because of that, most people who don't pay attention think he doesn't do anything.

And when he DOES do some campaigning, he is accused of grandstanding.

Every candidate for the last 30 years has gone on talk shows and done interviews. Bill Clinton played the saxophone on Jay Leno. John McCain did letterman and Jon Stewart and yes... John McCain went on Ellen Degeneres and The View.

Why are we only hearing republicans whine about this now? Because Mitt Romney is scared to go on The View and Letterman because he knows he will be asked an off-script question and he'll say something that shows him to be an obnoxious plutocrat like he did yesterday when he said that "nobody dies in their apartment because they don't have health insurance." :fp:

So to divert attention from the horrible candidate they have, Republicans cry about the 15-minute interview that the president did and try to suggest he blew off a meeting with "world leaders." That's all they have.

I gave my opinion and I thought it weird for all those other events you mention as well. That is why we get one-liner presidents of soundbites instead of substance. Because we vote for the guy who played the sax on Leno or who we would feel more comfortable having a beer with.

pandora · October 2012

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

pandora wrote:

hmmmm....
I think you might be confused as to exactly how this is going down?
Perhaps that is why it is beyond your comprehension.

There are some good articles on the subject if you would like to remain unbiased
and learn what the other half knows as fact.

it is beyond my comprehension because it is utterly ludicrous that people actually give a shit about this. does that make it clearer for you?

Of course people give a shit both sides have talked about it.
He won't be going down as the hardest working President in history.
His job is 24 7 period.
It is a half hearted leader who only agrees to do things on his own terms,
no compromise. "Sorry I can not meet with these people on important issues
cause I have to be home in the evenings" :?
say what :shock: that is ludicrous!

pandora · October 2012

PJ_Soul wrote:

pandora wrote:

chadwick wrote:

all leaders are treated differently than us common folk. democrat or republican, they all are catered to and such. it isn't just obama and other democrats that have celebrity status.

I just have never see a Republican be like a celeb... not like the Democrats
they are chummy with hollywood ... the super wealthy I should add.

That's only because most of Hollywood strongly supports the Democrats. I guarantee you that if Hollywood leaned right, the Republicans would be all over that.

Of course but you do see the blues act like celebs? Entertainers

I think they are wannabe's

pandora · October 2012

keeponrockin wrote:

I am far from a lazy rich guy but I also make time every day to have dinner with family, friends, or my girlfriend... Does this make me a bad person?

No you are a lucky guy...
how about the guys with responsibilities?

JimmyV · October 2012

I've heard some crazy charges levied at Obama but this is one of the more bizarre.

pandora wrote:

He won't be going down as the hardest working President in history.
His job is 24 7 period.
It is a half hearted leader who only agrees to do things on his own terms,
no compromise. "Sorry I can not meet with these people on important issues
cause I have to be home in the evenings" :?
say what :shock: that is ludicrous!

Home...in the White House...where the Oval Office is...where the White House Situation Room is...where his entire staff has their offices. This isn't like me saying I am leaving at 5pm to go home. The President never "goes home". This one really makes no sense to me.

pandora · October 2012

JimmyV wrote:

I've heard some crazy charges levied at Obama but this is one of the more bizarre.

pandora wrote:

He won't be going down as the hardest working President in history.
His job is 24 7 period.
It is a half hearted leader who only agrees to do things on his own terms,
no compromise. "Sorry I can not meet with these people on important issues
cause I have to be home in the evenings" :?
say what :shock: that is ludicrous!

Home...in the White House...where the Oval Office is...where the White House Situation Room is...where his entire staff has their offices. This isn't like me saying I am leaving at 5pm to go home. The President never "goes home". This one really makes no sense to me.

He's home at the dinner table... no appointments, no meetings, no work :fp:
He has to go out to meet with someone? no sorry ... he won't go.
This is every night, no policy is important, no meeting with others is important.
Real working people can not do this, they have responsibilities.

PJ_Soul · October 2012

pandora wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

pandora wrote:

hmmmm....
I think you might be confused as to exactly how this is going down?
Perhaps that is why it is beyond your comprehension.

There are some good articles on the subject if you would like to remain unbiased
and learn what the other half knows as fact.

it is beyond my comprehension because it is utterly ludicrous that people actually give a shit about this. does that make it clearer for you?

Of course people give a shit both sides have talked about it.
He won't be going down as the hardest working President in history.
His job is 24 7 period.
It is a half hearted leader who only agrees to do things on his own terms,
no compromise. "Sorry I can not meet with these people on important issues
cause I have to be home in the evenings" :?
say what :shock: that is ludicrous!

This is just crazy talk. He knows his job is 24/7 when required. You think he refuses a call from Putin or someone because they call at 7pm? You think he ignores his phone between 6 and 9 when the Secretary of States gives him a ring? :roll: Just because he's around his family, doesn't mean he's not working, and doesn't mean he's not available when needed.

chadwick · October 2012

keeponrockin wrote:

I am far from a lazy rich guy but I also make time every day to have dinner with family, friends, or my girlfriend... Does this make me a bad person?

hell frickin yes it does! anyone important or average that makes time to have a sit down meal with loved ones is completely arrogant & is a hollywood action figure

chadwick · October 2012

PJ_Soul wrote:

pandora wrote:

Of course people give a shit both sides have talked about it.
He won't be going down as the hardest working President in history.
His job is 24 7 period.
It is a half hearted leader who only agrees to do things on his own terms,
no compromise. "Sorry I can not meet with these people on important issues
cause I have to be home in the evenings" :?
say what :shock: that is ludicrous!

This is just crazy talk. He knows his job is 24/7 when required. You think he refuses a call from Putin or someone because they call at 7pm? You think he ignores his phone between 6 and 9 when the Secretary of States gives him a ring? :roll: Just because he's around his family, doesn't mean he's not working, and doesn't mean he's not available when needed.

thank you, pj_soul. your statement makes perfect sense

PJ_Soul · October 2012

chadwick wrote:

keeponrockin wrote:

I am far from a lazy rich guy but I also make time every day to have dinner with family, friends, or my girlfriend... Does this make me a bad person?

hell frickin yes it does! anyone important or average that makes time to have a sit down meal with loved ones is completely arrogant & is a hollywood action figure

Damn that Obama and his family values. :evil:
I think in this context, Obama is an excellent role model (and does not render himself useless just because he's at home. Love how people act like he goes right off the grid during the dinner hour

).

JimmyV · October 2012

pandora wrote:

JimmyV wrote:

I've heard some crazy charges levied at Obama but this is one of the more bizarre.

pandora wrote:

He won't be going down as the hardest working President in history.
His job is 24 7 period.
It is a half hearted leader who only agrees to do things on his own terms,
no compromise. "Sorry I can not meet with these people on important issues
cause I have to be home in the evenings" :?
say what :shock: that is ludicrous!

Home...in the White House...where the Oval Office is...where the White House Situation Room is...where his entire staff has their offices. This isn't like me saying I am leaving at 5pm to go home. The President never "goes home". This one really makes no sense to me.

He's home at the dinner table... no appointments, no meetings, no work :fp:
He has to go out to meet with someone? no sorry ... he won't go.
This is every night, no policy is important, no meeting with others is important.
Real working people can not do this, they have responsibilities.

I haven't had time to read through this whole thread so can you direct me to a legitimate source reporting that? Because I find it incredibly hard to believe. Particularly the part that this happens every night.

peacefrompaul · October 2012

Wasn't Dubya on his ranch quite a bit too?

PJ_Soul · October 2012

peacefrompaul wrote:

Wasn't Dubya on his ranch quite a bit too?

He took more vacation time than any other President in the history of the United States.

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