"Remember the Ladies..."

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  • 3legged dog
    3legged dog Posts: 896
    :fp: I post wrong, sorry for frenchness ;)
    In my lifetime, I have conquered the Multiverse by force of trUth.
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    LloydXmas wrote:
    3legged dog wrote:
    Going 55 in a 54 :lol:
    Fixed, but I've never seen a 54MPH zone before.

    That's the point he wasn't speeding the cop made up a reason even though he was going at he speed limit
  • LloydXmas
    LloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    3legged dog wrote:
    54 in 55 is part of the lyrics, getting pulled over for going 54 in a 55. Hence profiling :fp: :P
    my b.
  • 3legged dog
    3legged dog Posts: 896
    redmosquito84 wrote:
    Jay Z's is a lot smarter than you're giving him credit for. He knows that you'll automatically think that he's referring to a woman when he says, "bitch", but he's actually referring to a bitch - as in, a female dog. "We'll see how smart you are when the canines come. I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one." This isn't to say that he hasn't used derogatory language when describing women in the past (just listen to Big Pimpin'), but it is to say that he knows the listener is going to expect the worst from him and so he decides to outsmart them in this song. That's my take on it.

    Terry Gross (NPR/Fresh Air) did a great interview with him where he describes the storyline. I suggest you check it out: http://www.npr.org/2011/11/25/142506767 ... -interview

    Perfect and correct. :D
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  • covered in bliss
    covered in bliss The Shoals Posts: 1,334
    I think you're looking at it the wrong way and he's NOT calling -all- females bitches.

    when describing my group of friends, there is the one that thinks too much (me :)) the one that doesn't think AT ALL, the alcoholic, the slut, the granola one and the bitch. She openly calls herself one and yes, we all call her one, too!
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    redmosquito84 wrote:
    Jay Z's is a lot smarter than you're giving him credit for. He knows that you'll automatically think that he's referring to a woman when he says, "bitch", but he's actually referring to a bitch - as in, a female dog. "We'll see how smart you are when the canines come. I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one." This isn't to say that he hasn't used derogatory language when describing women in the past (just listen to Big Pimpin'), but it is to say that he knows the listener is going to expect the worst from him and so he decides to outsmart them in this song. That's my take on it.

    Terry Gross (NPR/Fresh Air) did a great interview with him where he describes the storyline. I suggest you check it out: http://www.npr.org/2011/11/25/142506767 ... -interview


    Interesting, thanks for taking the time to write this. I am still not fully persuaded, but what you say makes sense. Also, thanks to all the people who have expressed their support or agreement in private messages :)
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 33,098
    So no one can come here and complain with out having all you kids gang up on her why don't you debate her on it prove your points instead all you do is act like clowns ......
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    josevolution wrote:
    So no one can come here and complain with out having all you kids gang up on her why don't you debate her on it prove your points instead all you do is act like clowns ......

    Ha! Thanks Jose, I'm a big girl. I do appreciate the reminder about debating the points though ;)
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 33,098
    meme wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    So no one can come here and complain with out having all you kids gang up on her why don't you debate her on it prove your points instead all you do is act like clowns ......

    Ha! Thanks Jose, I'm a big girl. I do appreciate the reminder about debating the points though ;)

    Every so often i have to remind myself of the same thing :) ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • 3legged dog
    3legged dog Posts: 896
    josevolution wrote:
    meme wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    So no one can come here and complain with out having all you kids gang up on her why don't you debate her on it prove your points instead all you do is act like clowns ......

    Ha! Thanks Jose, I'm a big girl. I do appreciate the reminder about debating the points though ;)

    Every so often i have to remind myself of the same thing :) ..

    Everyone threw up there two cents. You know some people get to the point and some people pussyfoot and some are just assholes. Who cares Jose. People have attacked me to for some of my posts. I'm sure meme braced for for tongue lashes. We all have voices, some loud some soft some big some small. I enjoy the smart ass remarks and I enjoy your remarks. Frankly I enjoy our freedom to converse openly whether harsh, lude or respectful. Sometimes I have more respect for people have different views and speak their minds. Better than silence. MLK jr once said:"In the end, we will not remember the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends."
    In my lifetime, I have conquered the Multiverse by force of trUth.
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,383
    redmosquito84 wrote:
    Jay Z's is a lot smarter than you're giving him credit for. He knows that you'll automatically think that he's referring to a woman when he says, "bitch", but he's actually referring to a bitch - as in, a female dog. "We'll see how smart you are when the canines come. I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one." This isn't to say that he hasn't used derogatory language when describing women in the past (just listen to Big Pimpin'), but it is to say that he knows the listener is going to expect the worst from him and so he decides to outsmart them in this song. That's my take on it.

    :lol:

    This actually made me laugh out loud.

    He is referring to a woman when he uses the term "bitch" ("If you're having girl problems I feel bad for you son/I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one"). Of the 99 problems in the character's life, a bitch/woman in his life isn't a problem. The second verse in the song refers to the protagonist getting pulled over and refusing to be illegally searched by the police, so the K-9 unit is called in to sniff the car. You couldn't possibly be serious when you suggested he was rapping about a female dog, right?

    ;)
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 33,098
    I agree 3legged dog , you make good points :)
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    100 Pacer wrote:
    redmosquito84 wrote:
    Jay Z's is a lot smarter than you're giving him credit for. He knows that you'll automatically think that he's referring to a woman when he says, "bitch", but he's actually referring to a bitch - as in, a female dog. "We'll see how smart you are when the canines come. I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one." This isn't to say that he hasn't used derogatory language when describing women in the past (just listen to Big Pimpin'), but it is to say that he knows the listener is going to expect the worst from him and so he decides to outsmart them in this song. That's my take on it.

    :lol:

    This actually made me laugh out loud.

    He is referring to a woman when he uses the term "bitch" ("If you're having girl problems I feel bad for you son/I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one"). Of the 99 problems in the character's life, a bitch/woman in his life isn't a problem. The second verse in the song refers to the protagonist getting pulled over and refusing to be illegally searched by the police, so the K-9 unit is called in to sniff the car. You couldn't possibly be serious when you suggested he was rapping about a female dog, right?

    ;)

    It sounds like a huge stretch to me, but redmosquito based his/her insight on JayZ's explanation of his own song. I am getting quite the schooling on JayZness in the last couple of days...
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    we lost the count of the bitching,with the 99 problems but no bitches ,whatever this song says.
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • 3legged dog
    3legged dog Posts: 896
    100 Pacer wrote:
    redmosquito84 wrote:
    Jay Z's is a lot smarter than you're giving him credit for. He knows that you'll automatically think that he's referring to a woman when he says, "bitch", but he's actually referring to a bitch - as in, a female dog. "We'll see how smart you are when the canines come. I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one." This isn't to say that he hasn't used derogatory language when describing women in the past (just listen to Big Pimpin'), but it is to say that he knows the listener is going to expect the worst from him and so he decides to outsmart them in this song. That's my take on it.

    :lol:

    This actually made me laugh out loud.

    He is referring to a woman when he uses the term "bitch" ("If you're having girl problems I feel bad for you son/I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one"). Of the 99 problems in the character's life, a bitch/woman in his life isn't a problem. The second verse in the song refers to the protagonist getting pulled over and refusing to be illegally searched by the police, so the K-9 unit is called in to sniff the car. You couldn't possibly be serious when you suggested he was rapping about a female dog, right?

    ;)

    Why? You never had b*tch in ur life? Never said aloud to ur friends or silently in ur head??? Don't front now...lol.
    In my lifetime, I have conquered the Multiverse by force of trUth.
  • 3legged dog
    3legged dog Posts: 896
    :lol: :corn:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    we lost the count of the bitching,with the 99 problems but no bitches ,whatever this song says.
    In my lifetime, I have conquered the Multiverse by force of trUth.
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,383
    meme wrote:
    It sounds like a huge stretch to me, but redmosquito based his/her insight on JayZ's explanation of his own song. I am getting quite the schooling on JayZness in the last couple of days...

    Sounds like a huge stretch to you?! Just read the lyrics, the story being told is quite simple to follow along with.
    3legged dog wrote:
    Why? You never had b*tch in ur life? Never said aloud to ur friends or silently in ur head??? Don't front now...lol.

    Not sure what exactly you're trying to ask/say, as your post isn't very coherent. Are you asking whether I have a problem using the term "bitch"? The answer is no. I called the old man that cut me off this morning during my commute a bitch among other things. Regardless, in the song being discussed the bitch in question is a woman.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    I'm with you, meme. While I'm happy about the collaboration, it's disheartening - not offensive - that they performed a song which is antithetical to the values for which I have so much respect and admiration for them. I haven't had the heart to watch it.
  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Its quite funny when people get offended about something they know nothing about...
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Its quite funny when people get offended about something they know nothing about...

    I think it's funny that out of four pages of nastiness I only got one attempt at explaining to me what it is that I knew nothing about.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.

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