Pussy Riot

Godfather.
Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited December 2013 in A Moving Train
in some countries you can't say what you want....bet ya that got yer attention :o

Moscow (CNN) -- A judge found three members of the Russian female punk rock band Pussy Riot guilty of hooliganism Friday for performing a song critical of President Vladimir Putin.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/17/world/eur ... ?hpt=hp_t1
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  • Dissidentman
    Dissidentman Posts: 15,381
    Godfather. wrote:
    in some countries you can't say what you want....bet ya that got yer attention :o

    Moscow (CNN) -- A judge found three members of the Russian female punk rock band Pussy Riot guilty of hooliganism Friday for performing a song critical of President Vladimir Putin.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/17/world/eur ... ?hpt=hp_t1

    These girls. They must be broken.

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I don't know which term I like better - Pussy Riot or hooliganism.

    Pretty fucked up that some people can't speak their mind, freely, without legal repercussions.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,394
    Dissidentman wrote:

    These girls. They must be broken.

    If they die, they die.
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  • Zoso
    Zoso Posts: 6,425
    The Putin government is a glorified dictatorship... they are heading down the same road the soviet union did. Hardly a free speech nation.
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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Jason P wrote:
    Dissidentman wrote:

    These girls. They must be broken.

    If they die, they die.


    :lol:

    Does anyone know if the 5 months they've been in custody goes toward their sentence, and is the parole in Russia? could they get out early?
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    But it wasnt' about free speech, was it? It was hooliganism... They 'broke in' a private part of the church, did their slutty stuff in front of church goers and insulted everyone on the way. No, no - nothing to do with criticism of Putin in a song.... :roll:


    "The offence was performed by way of an action driven by the will of the culprits to show their disrespect of the others. It was identified that on Feb 21 2012, Tolokonnikova, Samutsevich and Alekhina unlawfully entered a sealed part of the Christ the Saviour Cathedral reserved for a religious ceremonies and hoist themselves in front of the altar which is reserved specifically for clergy members occupied the cathedral,and [started] reading prayers and other religious texts and inserted dancing and chanting which were insulting for religious believers.

    As they danced they swung they hands and imitated punching unseen enemies..."

    Note: for those who aren't too sure, I'm being sarcastic.
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    2 years? :lol:

    Fuck Russia

    I can't wait to visit
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    In some countries you can't say what you want--that includes the United States by the way. If you guys think there aren't free speech cases here then you are misguided. Just because lots of these cases include scary words like 'terrorism' does not mean they are not free speech cases all the way. It only means the U.S. government can better disguise it.

    Before you get all high and mighty on countries abroad, why don't you focus on your own?
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,394
    Ha! We couldn't make it a page before this was flipped back to the U.S.!

    :lol:
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    fuck wrote:
    In some countries you can't say what you want--that includes the United States by the way. If you guys think there aren't free speech cases here then you are misguided. Just because lots of these cases include scary words like 'terrorism' does not mean they are not free speech cases all the way. It only means the U.S. government can better disguise it.

    Before you get all high and mighty on countries abroad, why don't you focus on your own?

    ummmm :think: what to say ? ...well fuck the story was about a band in Russia that pushes the bounds just a little knowing full well what the repurcissions may be (can you imagine Dave Mustain or even Eddy of PJ having to live and perform in Russia), BUT they stood up for what they thought was right and unfortunatly the Russian police diden't see it that way and I coulden't agree with you more fuck that maybe all of us should mind our own business in our own countries and that being the case fuck where are you from ? IF you are not a US citizen why on eart are you on the train that has many topics about American politics.
    exactly what does "high and mighty" mean...remember this is the train so you can speak freely as long as follow the guide lines :lol:

    Godfather.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Jason P wrote:
    Ha! We couldn't make it a page before this was flipped back to the U.S.!

    :lol:
    All is well in the world 8-)
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    edited August 2012
    Godfather. wrote:
    fuck wrote:
    In some countries you can't say what you want--that includes the United States by the way. If you guys think there aren't free speech cases here then you are misguided. Just because lots of these cases include scary words like 'terrorism' does not mean they are not free speech cases all the way. It only means the U.S. government can better disguise it.

    Before you get all high and mighty on countries abroad, why don't you focus on your own?

    ummmm :think: what to say ? ...well fuck the story was about a band in Russia that pushes the bounds just a little knowing full well what the repurcissions may be (can you imagine Dave Mustain or even Eddy of PJ having to live and perform in Russia), BUT they stood up for what they thought was right and unfortunatly the Russian police diden't see it that way and I coulden't agree with you more fuck that maybe all of us should mind our own business in our own countries and that being the case fuck where are you from ? IF you are not a US citizen why on eart are you on the train that has many topics about American politics.
    exactly what does "high and mighty" mean...remember this is the train so you can speak freely as long as follow the guide lines :lol:

    Godfather.
    I know what the story was about. I was expecting someone to post it on here eventually, because stories like these make us Americans feel better about ourselves. Yeah, the economy might be shit, but we still have freedom, right? We're still the good guys out there, pushing our great values of freedom of speech to everyone who will listen! Give me a break. Don't act like this posting a story like this and saying, "in some countries you can't say what you want" was not a clear point that the United States is somehow better than Russia.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    Jason P wrote:
    Ha! We couldn't make it a page before this was flipped back to the U.S.!

    :lol:
    In my opinion, the topic always had a reference to the U.S. from the very first sentence of the OP! Plenty of people reading and responding to this story have the U.S. in mind, as somehow being 'better' than what just happened in Russia. :roll:
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    https://takeaction.amnestyusa.org/site/ ... 1208EDIAR1

    Petitions didn't work. Donations to send balaclavas to Putin in protest. Not that it will do much, sadly. Putin is old-school KGB....
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  • hedonist
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    fuck wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Ha! We couldn't make it a page before this was flipped back to the U.S.!

    :lol:
    In my opinion, the topic always had a reference to the U.S. from the very first sentence of the OP! Plenty of people reading and responding to this story have the U.S. in mind, as somehow being 'better' than what just happened in Russia. :roll:
    14 replies, minus the three that are yours; I'm just not seeing what you are here.

    Sorry, but you seem to be making unfair assumptions.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    curmudgeoness wrote:
    Putin is old-school KGB....
    yeah....the first thing he did when he won election,was to ban for the next 100 years the gay parades...he dont fuck around at his "democracy" there..
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    Great name for a band though ..
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  • brianlux
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    hedonist wrote:
    fuck wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Ha! We couldn't make it a page before this was flipped back to the U.S.!

    :lol:
    In my opinion, the topic always had a reference to the U.S. from the very first sentence of the OP! Plenty of people reading and responding to this story have the U.S. in mind, as somehow being 'better' than what just happened in Russia. :roll:
    14 replies, minus the three that are yours; I'm just not seeing what you are here.

    Sorry, but you seem to be making unfair assumptions.

    I think I see what fuck is getting at here- to me there does seem to be an implied "we're cool/ they're not" slant to the OP. But I'd like to hear from Godfather on this. Just to clarify, what is your intention here, GF? What's your take on freedom of speech here vs there?
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    brianlux wrote:

    I think I see what fuck is getting at here- to me there does seem to be an implied "we're cool/ they're not" slant to the OP. But I'd like to hear from Godfather on this. Just to clarify, what is your intention here, GF? What's your take on freedom of speech here vs there?
    i dont know what Godfather had in mind,but my opinion is there is NO freedom of speech anywhere..
    we think we have this..govertments and power in general,they can make u and your freedom disapear in a minute..we all have limits of that freedom of speech...
    some countries,just play it more free than other,or hide it..
    but if u seriously try to play with the system..you are fucked..
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  • Cosmo
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    I thought this was going to be a link to a free porn site.
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