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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    edited August 2012
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    what a ridiculous statement.

    and you have said so little in so many pages it's mind boggling.
    another way to say hindsight is 20/20 and most regret something

    Do you know something of that yourself? Perhaps...

    well what does that say about you spending soooo much time reading and then always replying :lol:
    that is even more mind boggling wouldn't you say?

    do I know something of what? what the hell are you talking about? I spend so much time reading trying to understand your point of view, because I can't for the life of me understand your line of thinking.
    I can at least understand the pro-second amendment side. But many of them have a rational way of expressing it.

    Kind of like how scientists study monkeys. Even though a monkey keeps doing the same damn thing over and over, and all the while the monkey is thinking "they must really think I'm superior spending all this time looking at me". The scientists keep trying. is it futile? Maybe.

    this sure as hell has been.

    hey don't do me any favors ;)

    just ignore most especially since understanding is not your motive



    just a line of crapola :lol: again...
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    what a ridiculous statement.

    and you have said so little in so many pages it's mind boggling.
    another way to say hindsight is 20/20 and most regret something

    Do you know something of that yourself? Perhaps...

    well what does that say about you spending soooo much time reading and then always replying :lol:
    that is even more mind boggling wouldn't you say?


    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    do I know something of what? what the hell are you talking about? I spend so much time reading trying to understand your point of view, because I can't for the life of me understand your line of thinking.

    I can at least understand the pro-second amendment side. But many of them have a rational way of expressing it.

    Kind of like how scientists study monkeys. Even though a monkey keeps doing the same damn thing over and over, and all the while the monkey is thinking "they must really think I'm superior spending all this time looking at me". The scientists keep trying. is it futile? Maybe.

    this sure as hell has been.

    You see Hugh THIS is why I posted this...*There's just some men you can't reach...*
    g under p wrote:
    Man I go away and AGAIN I have a book to read and that head banging the wall is ALL I can see.

    Failure To Communicate

    Peace


    I think that's the case that we have here. ;)

    Peace
    and women
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    Add to TBU list... strict and thorough background checks, mandatory licensing. Make all sellers 'licensed' - having to go through the same procedure for selling firearms. No more 'no questions asked' when purchasing firearms at gun shows, via the internet, etc. Just close the loophole.

    But hey... if it's cars that some understand, let's talk cars/guns then.... :roll:

    It has been shown that there are much more controls in obtaining a license to drive a car than there are in being able to obtain a gun. Why not just simply apply the rules for potential car drivers to potential gun users... Via a 'licensed broker' only, thorough checks (giving all details, including social security number, proof of identity/residency, etc.), apply/get goods in person (not via internet), written test (making sure one understands the 'laws' of ownership, how to store arms, etc.), practical test (making sure one can effectively use a gun), revoking of said licence if conditions no longer met... For starters. Then, keeping with the driving 'theme' - as there are different types of licenses depending on the vehicle you wish to drive and the use of this vehicle, let's do the same for guns. 'Basic' licence for guns in the home used for 'protection', another one for those wanting more than that (comparable to non commercial class a or b licenses) and then for those who think they need assault rifles, etc. another step comparable to the commercial driver license which requires a medical.

    I don't hear anyone crying blue murder about these these checks, tests, 'restrictions' for the car. No one saying it is taking away their freedom, etc.; and it doesn't seem to stop 'responsible' car owners/drivers from getting what they want so what would be the problem with applying the same stringent rules to gun ownership? How about that? Sensible enough? Laws/restrictions already accepted by 'all' so no issues, right?
    Is this what you have in the land you call home? Or do you still call the US home and vote here?
    I see your outline here is what you wish for the world.... yes?

    I'm going to be sure to get out and vote ;)
    I had a sneaking suspicion you were American, funny about the hindsight thing,
    bet it feels better to be forthcoming...
    I have been told this by others that honesty is the best policy even here.
    I think this has something to do with one's moral compass, they said.
    Made sense yes?
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    pandora wrote:
    Is this what you have in the land you call home? Or do you still call the US home and vote here?
    I see your outline here is what you wish for the world.... yes?

    I'm going to be sure to get out and vote ;)
    I had a sneaking suspicion you were American, funny about the hindsight thing,
    bet it feels better to be forthcoming...
    I have been told this by others that honesty is the best policy even here.
    I think this has something to do with one's moral compass, they said.
    Made sense yes?

    You are being extremely obnoxious - true colours revealed. Since you want to make this about me and my nationality - I have never 'hidden' it, even mentioned it a number of times but in context. Even in a very recent thread about voting.

    But why would it matter? Why would you have 'sneaky suspicions' as if my citizenship is questionable? A latent xenophobic? Would you like to know what colour my skin is?

    Honesty? Moral compass? You are just trying to get out of a very embarrassing post for you and you are getting in deeper and deeper. There is absolutely no reason for me (or anyone) to have to first 'disclose' nationality/religion/sexual preferences or anything else on this forum before posting in a thread. If one wishes to do so in context, that is fine.

    You really outdid yourself with this one. :roll: Can you come up with more of a personal attack? Have you no other arguments?
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Is this what you have in the land you call home? Or do you still call the US home and vote here?
    I see your outline here is what you wish for the world.... yes?

    I'm going to be sure to get out and vote ;)
    I had a sneaking suspicion you were American, funny about the hindsight thing,
    bet it feels better to be forthcoming...
    I have been told this by others that honesty is the best policy even here.
    I think this has something to do with one's moral compass, they said.
    Made sense yes?

    You are being extremely obnoxious - true colours revealed. Since you want to make this about me and my nationality - I have never 'hidden' it, even mentioned it a number of times but in context. Even in a very recent thread about voting.

    But why would it matter? Why would you have 'sneaky suspicions' as if my citizenship is questionable? A latent xenophobic? Would you like to know what colour my skin is?

    Honesty? Moral compass? You are just trying to get out of a very embarrassing post for you and you are getting in deeper and deeper. There is absolutely no reason for me (or anyone) to have to first 'disclose' nationality/religion/sexual preferences or anything else on this forum before posting in a thread. If one wishes to do so in context, that is fine.

    You really outdid yourself with this one. :roll: Can you come up with more of a personal attack? Have you no other arguments?
    You have the nerve to call that a personal attack really...
    after all that you talk about me? You are joking perhaps.
    How come you can't just answer the questions posed to you?...
    I do happily

    It is nothing personal]it is about the topic of gun laws and what you want in America
    that you posted here ...

    is that what you have now in your country of choice?

    Is that the model for what you want for America and the world?
    I think that is a very viable question. And how the heck is that an attack? :?

    If anything it is sharing your experiences.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    soooo ... is this a good thing this guy was allowed to bring a gun into a movie theatre?

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... ie-theatre



    SPARKS, NEV.—Police say a man accidentally shot himself in the buttocks at a Nevada movie theatre during a showing of “The Bourne Legacy.”

    Police in Sparks, Nev., say the 56-year-old man’s injuries are not life-threatening and no others were hurt.

    Authorities say the man had a permit to carry a concealed firearm. The man told officers the gun fell from his pocket Tuesday night as he was adjusting himself in the seat and that it discharged when it dropped to the floor.

    Authorities say the case will be sent to the city attorney for possible charges.

    The incident comes less than a month after a shooting at a suburban Denver theatre that left 12 dead and 58 injured.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    polaris_x wrote:
    soooo ... is this a good thing this guy was allowed to bring a gun into a movie theatre?

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... ie-theatre



    SPARKS, NEV.—Police say a man accidentally shot himself in the buttocks at a Nevada movie theatre during a showing of “The Bourne Legacy.”

    Police in Sparks, Nev., say the 56-year-old man’s injuries are not life-threatening and no others were hurt.

    Authorities say the man had a permit to carry a concealed firearm. The man told officers the gun fell from his pocket Tuesday night as he was adjusting himself in the seat and that it discharged when it dropped to the floor.

    Authorities say the case will be sent to the city attorney for possible charges.

    The incident comes less than a month after a shooting at a suburban Denver theatre that left 12 dead and 58 injured.
    I should not have laughed I'm sorry not funny... but I did but shouldn't have... :oops:
    http://www.usacarry.com/colorado_concea ... ation.html

    Someone mentioned the theatre had no firearms allowed don't know if that is true...
    must be a sign posted ... as it says in above link
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    pandora wrote:

    It is nothing personal]it is about the topic of gun laws and what you want in America
    that you posted here ...

    Digging in deeper. No twisting your words/meanings will change anything you wrote.

    Just drop Pandora. Now. I mean it.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    pandora wrote:

    It is nothing personal]it is about the topic of gun laws and what you want in America
    that you posted here ...

    Digging in deeper. No twisting your words/meanings will change anything you wrote.

    Just drop Pandora. Now. I mean it.
    your wishes yes of course
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    current gun laws in the united states are not working. simple dimple pimple. change some shit and in a hurry before many hundreds and many thousands keep on dying. to say we haven't a gun issue and to say we need not tweek laws and bring new laws out of the woodwork is fucking nuts.

    1. folks who own 300 guns are bullshit
    2. owning a old family hunting rifle or shotgun is acceptable
    3. owning 17 assault rifles is bunk as fuck and maybe the owners of said weapons should have their teeth kicked in for being a dipshit fucking hillbilly redneck fucking asshole
    4. gun freaks make me nervous and generally they know almost zero about their arsenal in their bunker
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    pandora wrote:
    just a line of crapola :lol: again...

    :roll:
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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,063
    pandora wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    soooo ... is this a good thing this guy was allowed to bring a gun into a movie theatre?

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... ie-theatre



    SPARKS, NEV.—Police say a man accidentally shot himself in the buttocks at a Nevada movie theatre during a showing of “The Bourne Legacy.”

    Police in Sparks, Nev., say the 56-year-old man’s injuries are not life-threatening and no others were hurt.

    Authorities say the man had a permit to carry a concealed firearm. The man told officers the gun fell from his pocket Tuesday night as he was adjusting himself in the seat and that it discharged when it dropped to the floor.

    Authorities say the case will be sent to the city attorney for possible charges.

    The incident comes less than a month after a shooting at a suburban Denver theatre that left 12 dead and 58 injured.
    I should not have laughed I'm sorry not funny... but I did but shouldn't have... :oops:
    http://www.usacarry.com/colorado_concea ... ation.html

    Someone mentioned the theatre had no firearms allowed don't know if that is true...
    must be a sign posted ... as it says in above link

    But I thought all these conceal permit owners were responsible. He could have just as easily killed someone else. He should go to jail like Plaxico.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,063
    Very informative article. Read it: http://www.npr.org/2012/08/15/158758286 ... n=20120815
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    redrock wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Is this what you have in the land you call home? Or do you still call the US home and vote here?
    I see your outline here is what you wish for the world.... yes?

    I'm going to be sure to get out and vote ;)
    I had a sneaking suspicion you were American, funny about the hindsight thing,
    bet it feels better to be forthcoming...
    I have been told this by others that honesty is the best policy even here.
    I think this has something to do with one's moral compass, they said.
    Made sense yes?

    You are being extremely obnoxious - true colours revealed. Since you want to make this about me and my nationality - I have never 'hidden' it, even mentioned it a number of times but in context. Even in a very recent thread about voting.

    But why would it matter? Why would you have 'sneaky suspicions' as if my citizenship is questionable? A latent xenophobic? Would you like to know what colour my skin is?

    Honesty? Moral compass? You are just trying to get out of a very embarrassing post for you and you are getting in deeper and deeper. There is absolutely no reason for me (or anyone) to have to first 'disclose' nationality/religion/sexual preferences or anything else on this forum before posting in a thread. If one wishes to do so in context, that is fine.

    You really outdid yourself with this one. :roll: Can you come up with more of a personal attack? Have you no other arguments?

    This is no different than myself being called out for being insulting and without understanding. I meant to call Pandora on her sensitivity but i let it go cause i can handle some of her comments. Stop trying to control the fricking board leave it to the moderators and please get OVER your high and mighty self. A problem with one's words report it like you usually do and carry on with this crusade. I'm done, moderators please blow this MFing thread up....it's getting ridiculous. Thank you.

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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    ComeToTX wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    soooo ... is this a good thing this guy was allowed to bring a gun into a movie theatre?

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... ie-theatre



    SPARKS, NEV.—Police say a man accidentally shot himself in the buttocks at a Nevada movie theatre during a showing of “The Bourne Legacy.”

    Police in Sparks, Nev., say the 56-year-old man’s injuries are not life-threatening and no others were hurt.

    Authorities say the man had a permit to carry a concealed firearm. The man told officers the gun fell from his pocket Tuesday night as he was adjusting himself in the seat and that it discharged when it dropped to the floor.

    Authorities say the case will be sent to the city attorney for possible charges.

    The incident comes less than a month after a shooting at a suburban Denver theatre that left 12 dead and 58 injured.
    I should not have laughed I'm sorry not funny... but I did but shouldn't have... :oops:
    http://www.usacarry.com/colorado_concea ... ation.html

    Someone mentioned the theatre had no firearms allowed don't know if that is true...
    must be a sign posted ... as it says in above link

    But I thought all these conceal permit owners were responsible. He could have just as easily killed someone else. He should go to jail like Plaxico.

    so carrying and concealing a gun in public is legal. and actually fucking encouraged.

    dropping it can cause you to go to jail or even kill someone.

    yeah, good laws there.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Pandora wrote:
    I should not have laughed I'm sorry not funny... but I did but shouldn't have... :oops:

    but the fact that your gut reaction was to LAUGH is very telling about your lack of respect and awareness for the grave situation this could have ended up as.

    glad the stupid fuck shot himself and not someone else.
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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    pandora wrote:
    Someone mentioned the theatre had no firearms allowed don't know if that is true...
    must be a sign posted ... as it says in above link


    probably right above the sign that says "no outside food or drink". and we know how many people adhere to that. :fp:
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Interesting article about how many US civilians are buying AK-47s in record numbers:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48670593/ns ... CujulZmTFk

    Izhmash benefits from American gun laws that are looser than in its home market. In Russia, consumers can buy a long-barreled firearm only with a police permit, which requires a clean criminal sheet, a diploma from a gun safety course and a medical certificate of sanity. In the United States, laws vary by state, but buyers often need to clear only an F.B.I. criminal background check.

    ^^^interesting laws in Russia concerning the mental state discussion going around here.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Very informative article. Read it: http://www.npr.org/2012/08/15/158758286 ... n=20120815
    It was both frustrating and a relief to police and the family when Courtois was finally arrested for speeding down the highway to what could have been a tragedy. Police found an AK-47, handguns and several boxes of ammunition in Courtois' car as he drove toward New Hampshire, he reportedly told police, to shoot a former employer.

    It appears in Mr Courtois's case he has to shoot up or kill several people BEFORE he's deemed mentally ill. Luckly he chose to speed and got caught which appears to have saved several people's lives. Man are we ever working backwards in this country on our gun laws. However, like some here would want let's have a free for all since criminals will ALWAYS get there guns.

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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    g under p wrote:
    This is no different than myself being called out for being insulting and without understanding. I meant to call Pandora on her sensitivity but i let it go cause i can handle some of her comments. Stop trying to control the fricking board leave it to the moderators and please get OVER your high and mighty self. A problem with one's words report it like you usually do and carry on with this crusade. I'm done, moderators please blow this MFing thread up....it's getting ridiculous. Thank you.

    Peace
    How am I trying to control the board? How was I insensitive?
    Be prepared to discuss others behavior and yours also.

    I have not had a problem in this thread with anyone's words,
    I point them out so the mods and others can see and I carry on.
    I am accustomed to this by now.

    Actually since you posted this others have posted interesting articles ....

    so....
    carry on with the topic.
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