Whats going wrong with the world? More shootings

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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,064
    pandora wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    those weren't exactly the laws I've found and posted :fp: guess we can twist those too :lol: ?
    If this response wasn't so pathetic it would be laughable. Laws (or lack thereof) are laws/the reality. I've already referenced the source of these in this thread.

    It just goes to show that some don't want to see the loopholes that could have maybe saved this lady who got shot by a burglar. Who is to say that he did not acquire his firearm LEGALLY - certainly the LACK OF LAWS which could have prevented this would have allowed him to do so with no problem whatsoever.

    Also, your little :fp: is getting quite tiresome when you lack convincing arguments.
    Actually it is very effective or you wouldn't mention it ;):lol:

    Funny why debate if I'm not convincing? :?

    and yes your laws are twisted to fit your agenda.

    I know all about loopholes in some states. States can make their own laws.
    So in those states, as I mentioned before, those citizens have not voted to address the loophole.

    I am all for the states and each states citizens deciding what is right for them.
    Perhaps you are for big government coming in and taking away citizens rights.
    I just don't know...

    I know I am not for that and I think I am not alone.

    Voted to address loopholes???? These things aren't put up to a vote. They are changed by lawmakers!
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  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    pandora wrote:
    Zoso wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    The right to bear arms is to protect human life.

    hows the working out?
    It would work a lot better if everyone was law abiding responsible gun owners
    not criminals preying on others.
    So it would work in a utopia, but since that's not the case, it might need to be adjusted to better fit with our reality
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    ComeToTX wrote:
    The paramedic that tried to save the shooter yesterday: "I was asking him questions, like if he knew he was allergic to anything," Cisneros said. "He looked up at me and asked me to apologize to the officer that was shot."

    Too late, asshole. He's dead and his kids don't have a dad.
    The shooter is dead yes?
    I'm glad he had an opportunity to say those words as he passed.
    He knew what he had done.

    Many could not even give a damn....
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    redrock wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    But not being a US citizen ......

    crying-with-laughter.gif


    Well, well... I see one edited her post to remove some stupid 'finger pointing elitism' (ie, you're not one of 'us' so you wouldn't know...), pretending it never happened.
    But too late!.... it's been quoted! :lol:
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    comebackgirl wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    It would work a lot better if everyone was law abiding responsible gun owners
    not criminals preying on others.
    So it would work in a utopia, but since that's not the case, it might need to be adjusted to better fit with our reality
    How would you do that?
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,064
    pandora wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    The paramedic that tried to save the shooter yesterday: "I was asking him questions, like if he knew he was allergic to anything," Cisneros said. "He looked up at me and asked me to apologize to the officer that was shot."

    Too late, asshole. He's dead and his kids don't have a dad.
    The shooter is dead yes?
    I'm glad he had an opportunity to say those words as he passed.
    He knew what he had done.

    Many could not even give a damn....

    Did he? He told the paramedic to tell a dead man he was sorry. He obviously didn't give a damn. He killed 2 people over being evicted.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    comebackgirl wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    It would work a lot better if everyone was law abiding responsible gun owners
    not criminals preying on others.
    So it would work in a utopia, but since that's not the case, it might need to be adjusted to better fit with our reality
    How would you do that?
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    ComeToTX wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    The paramedic that tried to save the shooter yesterday: "I was asking him questions, like if he knew he was allergic to anything," Cisneros said. "He looked up at me and asked me to apologize to the officer that was shot."

    Too late, asshole. He's dead and his kids don't have a dad.
    The shooter is dead yes?
    I'm glad he had an opportunity to say those words as he passed.
    He knew what he had done.

    Many could not even give a damn....

    Did he? He told the paramedic to tell a dead man he was sorry. He obviously didn't give a damn. He killed 2 people over being evicted.
    obviously he did care and had no idea he was dead...

    but probably did know he was
  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    pandora wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    It would work a lot better if everyone was law abiding responsible gun owners
    not criminals preying on others.
    So it would work in a utopia, but since that's not the case, it might need to be adjusted to better fit with our reality
    How would you do that?
    mandatory registrations, background checks, limits onthe types an numbers of weapons owned
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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,064
    He made the decision to shoot a police officer that knocked on his door for no reason. I have a hard time believing that he felt much remorse. After shooting at people for 30 minutes!
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    norm wrote:
    ok now i wanna buy a gun and put this thread out of it's misery :crazy: :problem: :-P

    ok i've changed my mind :think:


    i want a rpg launcher to blow this thread to hell
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    But not being a US citizen ......

    crying-with-laughter.gif


    Well, well... I see one edited her post to remove some stupid 'finger pointing elitism' (ie, you're not one of 'us' so you wouldn't know...), pretending it never happened.
    But too late!.... it's been quoted! :lol:
    I rethought because you were so upset by that last time, others too,
    and kindness is what we want to accomplish here... and understanding.
    Is that not right redrock?

    I see you are still upset by your reaction ... :shock:
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    ComeToTX wrote:
    He made the decision to shoot a police officer that knocked on his door for no reason. I have a hard time believing that he felt much remorse. After shooting at people for 30 minutes!
    People often feel remorse when dying don't you think?
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    norm wrote:
    norm wrote:
    ok now i wanna buy a gun and put this thread out of it's misery :crazy: :problem: :-P

    ok i've changed my mind :think:


    i want a rpg launcher to blow this thread to hell

    I was thinking an Abrams, actually...
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    ]It's on page 51. I posted it in full, but highlighted that portion. I'm trying to understand in which situation and to which victims those statements apply, because whenever anyone has referenced those comments we've been called insensitive. If you could very clearly explain to me in which situations and perhaps give an example of someone being a victim due to weakness, etc that would help clarify. I'm trying to understand the difference between a deserving and undeserving victim. Thanks.

    As I am trying to understand what some mean by the term 'responsible' gun owner (since it would seem all rests on this word). In context of gun ownership, in their own words - not a cut and paste of the meaning of the word 'responsible'. What exactly does one have to do to be 'responsible' in terms of owning a gun. Clarification would indeed be useful in this thread.
    What does one do to be responsible when driving a car?
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,064
    pandora wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    He made the decision to shoot a police officer that knocked on his door for no reason. I have a hard time believing that he felt much remorse. After shooting at people for 30 minutes!
    People often feel remorse when dying don't you think?

    No clue. I've never died. I've also never killed 2 people.
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  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Pandora - can you respond to this?

    comebackgirl wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    I have read the full thought and I'm very willing to admit I don't get it. If you could help me understand in which situations those statements about victims apply, that would be great. Thanks.
    What page was my orginal thought on then ? ...
    you must have focused greatly more than I on it

    really think I won't muddle through 120 pages :lol: and I think was that a couple weeks ago now :lol:

    but I don't think I gave any situations in my original thought
    as it was about people in general how they react to protecting themselves and their methods...
    with or without a gun...
    I think it came from more of a philosophical place, though I was thinking of a couple
    personal situations and regret felt for not being more prepared.

    I know you and many focused on it using it as though I was attacking victims,
    something I would never do, make a crime their fault, although we do regret after.
    But you already know this...
    funny trying to turn what is not an attack into one ... ironic indeed :lol:
    It's on page 51. I posted it in full, but highlighted that portion. I'm trying to understand in which situation and to which victims those statements apply, because whenever anyone has referenced those comments we've been called insensitive. If you could very clearly explain to me in which situations and perhaps give an example of someone being a victim due to weakness, etc that would help clarify. I'm trying to understand the difference between a deserving and undeserving victim. Thanks.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Voted to address loopholes???? These things aren't put up to a vote. They are changed by lawmakers!
    Did you vote in your lawmakers?
    Don't act helpless in this if you want the laws changed get out and change them.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited August 2012
    pandora wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    crying-with-laughter.gif


    Well, well... I see one edited her post to remove some stupid 'finger pointing elitism' (ie, you're not one of 'us' so you wouldn't know...), pretending it never happened.
    But too late!.... it's been quoted! :lol:
    I rethought because you were so upset by that last time, others too,
    and kindness is what we want to accomplish here... and understanding.
    Is that not right redrock?

    I see you are still upset by your reaction ... :shock:

    Haha... futile attempt at saving face! Not working! If I hadn't picked up on it, you wouldn't have changed a word! It was a direct attempt at devaluing what I have to say (but it backfired, didn't it?).

    Upset? crying.gif Please... give us some credit! :lol:
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited August 2012
    pandora wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    ]It's on page 51. I posted it in full, but highlighted that portion. I'm trying to understand in which situation and to which victims those statements apply, because whenever anyone has referenced those comments we've been called insensitive. If you could very clearly explain to me in which situations and perhaps give an example of someone being a victim due to weakness, etc that would help clarify. I'm trying to understand the difference between a deserving and undeserving victim. Thanks.

    As I am trying to understand what some mean by the term 'responsible' gun owner (since it would seem all rests on this word). In context of gun ownership, in their own words - not a cut and paste of the meaning of the word 'responsible'. What exactly does one have to do to be 'responsible' in terms of owning a gun. Clarification would indeed be useful in this thread.
    What does one do to be responsible when driving a car?

    Oops... there we go... the car analogy... Unable to give an answer so one 'diverts' :lol:

    Again, this is a thread about shootings and guns - not cars.
    Post edited by redrock on
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