Whats going wrong with the world? More shootings
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pandora wrote:
Actually it is very effective or you wouldn't mention itredrock wrote:
If this response wasn't so pathetic it would be laughable. Laws (or lack thereof) are laws/the reality. I've already referenced the source of these in this thread.pandora wrote:those weren't exactly the laws I've found and posted :fp: guess we can twist those too
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It just goes to show that some don't want to see the loopholes that could have maybe saved this lady who got shot by a burglar. Who is to say that he did not acquire his firearm LEGALLY - certainly the LACK OF LAWS which could have prevented this would have allowed him to do so with no problem whatsoever.
Also, your little :fp: is getting quite tiresome when you lack convincing arguments.

Funny why debate if I'm not convincing? :?
and yes your laws are twisted to fit your agenda.
I know all about loopholes in some states. States can make their own laws.
So in those states, as I mentioned before, those citizens have not voted to address the loophole.
I am all for the states and each states citizens deciding what is right for them.
Perhaps you are for big government coming in and taking away citizens rights.
I just don't know...
I know I am not for that and I think I am not alone.
Voted to address loopholes???? These things aren't put up to a vote. They are changed by lawmakers!This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0 -
So it would work in a utopia, but since that's not the case, it might need to be adjusted to better fit with our realitypandora wrote:
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"0 -
The shooter is dead yes?ComeToTX wrote:The paramedic that tried to save the shooter yesterday: "I was asking him questions, like if he knew he was allergic to anything," Cisneros said. "He looked up at me and asked me to apologize to the officer that was shot."
Too late, asshole. He's dead and his kids don't have a dad.
I'm glad he had an opportunity to say those words as he passed.
He knew what he had done.
Many could not even give a damn....0 -
How would you do that?comebackgirl wrote:
So it would work in a utopia, but since that's not the case, it might need to be adjusted to better fit with our realitypandora wrote:It would work a lot better if everyone was law abiding responsible gun owners
not criminals preying on others.0 -
pandora wrote:
The shooter is dead yes?ComeToTX wrote:The paramedic that tried to save the shooter yesterday: "I was asking him questions, like if he knew he was allergic to anything," Cisneros said. "He looked up at me and asked me to apologize to the officer that was shot."
Too late, asshole. He's dead and his kids don't have a dad.
I'm glad he had an opportunity to say those words as he passed.
He knew what he had done.
Many could not even give a damn....
Did he? He told the paramedic to tell a dead man he was sorry. He obviously didn't give a damn. He killed 2 people over being evicted.This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0 -
How would you do that?comebackgirl wrote:
So it would work in a utopia, but since that's not the case, it might need to be adjusted to better fit with our realitypandora wrote:It would work a lot better if everyone was law abiding responsible gun owners
not criminals preying on others.0 -
obviously he did care and had no idea he was dead...ComeToTX wrote:pandora wrote:
The shooter is dead yes?ComeToTX wrote:The paramedic that tried to save the shooter yesterday: "I was asking him questions, like if he knew he was allergic to anything," Cisneros said. "He looked up at me and asked me to apologize to the officer that was shot."
Too late, asshole. He's dead and his kids don't have a dad.
I'm glad he had an opportunity to say those words as he passed.
He knew what he had done.
Many could not even give a damn....
Did he? He told the paramedic to tell a dead man he was sorry. He obviously didn't give a damn. He killed 2 people over being evicted.
but probably did know he was0 -
mandatory registrations, background checks, limits onthe types an numbers of weapons ownedpandora wrote:
How would you do that?comebackgirl wrote:
So it would work in a utopia, but since that's not the case, it might need to be adjusted to better fit with our realitypandora wrote:It would work a lot better if everyone was law abiding responsible gun owners
not criminals preying on others.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"0 -
He made the decision to shoot a police officer that knocked on his door for no reason. I have a hard time believing that he felt much remorse. After shooting at people for 30 minutes!This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0
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I rethought because you were so upset by that last time, others too,redrock wrote:
and kindness is what we want to accomplish here... and understanding.
Is that not right redrock?
I see you are still upset by your reaction ... :shock:0 -
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What does one do to be responsible when driving a car?redrock wrote:comebackgirl wrote:]It's on page 51. I posted it in full, but highlighted that portion. I'm trying to understand in which situation and to which victims those statements apply, because whenever anyone has referenced those comments we've been called insensitive. If you could very clearly explain to me in which situations and perhaps give an example of someone being a victim due to weakness, etc that would help clarify. I'm trying to understand the difference between a deserving and undeserving victim. Thanks.
As I am trying to understand what some mean by the term 'responsible' gun owner (since it would seem all rests on this word). In context of gun ownership, in their own words - not a cut and paste of the meaning of the word 'responsible'. What exactly does one have to do to be 'responsible' in terms of owning a gun. Clarification would indeed be useful in this thread.0 -
pandora wrote:
People often feel remorse when dying don't you think?ComeToTX wrote:He made the decision to shoot a police officer that knocked on his door for no reason. I have a hard time believing that he felt much remorse. After shooting at people for 30 minutes!
No clue. I've never died. I've also never killed 2 people.This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0 -
Pandora - can you respond to this?comebackgirl wrote:
It's on page 51. I posted it in full, but highlighted that portion. I'm trying to understand in which situation and to which victims those statements apply, because whenever anyone has referenced those comments we've been called insensitive. If you could very clearly explain to me in which situations and perhaps give an example of someone being a victim due to weakness, etc that would help clarify. I'm trying to understand the difference between a deserving and undeserving victim. Thanks.pandora wrote:
What page was my orginal thought on then ? ...comebackgirl wrote:I have read the full thought and I'm very willing to admit I don't get it. If you could help me understand in which situations those statements about victims apply, that would be great. Thanks.
you must have focused greatly more than I on it
really think I won't muddle through 120 pages
and I think was that a couple weeks ago now 
but I don't think I gave any situations in my original thought
as it was about people in general how they react to protecting themselves and their methods...
with or without a gun...
I think it came from more of a philosophical place, though I was thinking of a couple
personal situations and regret felt for not being more prepared.
I know you and many focused on it using it as though I was attacking victims,
something I would never do, make a crime their fault, although we do regret after.
But you already know this...
funny trying to turn what is not an attack into one ... ironic indeed

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pandora wrote:
I rethought because you were so upset by that last time, others too,redrock wrote:redrock wrote:
Well, well... I see one edited her post to remove some stupid 'finger pointing elitism' (ie, you're not one of 'us' so you wouldn't know...), pretending it never happened.
But too late!.... it's been quoted!
and kindness is what we want to accomplish here... and understanding.
Is that not right redrock?
I see you are still upset by your reaction ... :shock:
Haha... futile attempt at saving face! Not working! If I hadn't picked up on it, you wouldn't have changed a word! It was a direct attempt at devaluing what I have to say (but it backfired, didn't it?).
Upset?
Please... give us some credit!
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pandora wrote:
What does one do to be responsible when driving a car?redrock wrote:comebackgirl wrote:]It's on page 51. I posted it in full, but highlighted that portion. I'm trying to understand in which situation and to which victims those statements apply, because whenever anyone has referenced those comments we've been called insensitive. If you could very clearly explain to me in which situations and perhaps give an example of someone being a victim due to weakness, etc that would help clarify. I'm trying to understand the difference between a deserving and undeserving victim. Thanks.
As I am trying to understand what some mean by the term 'responsible' gun owner (since it would seem all rests on this word). In context of gun ownership, in their own words - not a cut and paste of the meaning of the word 'responsible'. What exactly does one have to do to be 'responsible' in terms of owning a gun. Clarification would indeed be useful in this thread.
Oops... there we go... the car analogy... Unable to give an answer so one 'diverts'
Again, this is a thread about shootings and guns - not cars.Post edited by redrock on0
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