Whats going wrong with the world? More shootings

pandora · August 2012

Thirty Bills Unpaid wrote:

I just expressed that it came somewhat of a surprise to me that you spoke so strongly in the post where you presented the case. I don't know you very well... but if you remember correctly... I jumped to your defence a few months back on this very forum. There is nothing personal between you and I- I don't subscribe to your way of thinking as it relates to several of the topics within this particular thread- no big deal... it's allowed.

You are clearly 'in the minority' when it comes to sympathizing with James Holmes. I would speculate that the numbers are overwhelmingly in favour of a really quick trial and execution. Regardless, you are welcome to your position and we don't need to revisit this topic in too much depth- we've done that already ad nauseum.

I have studied Columbine (followed the case when it happened... read the book, Columbine, which was excellent). Those boys were 'outcasts' for lack of better word, but that doesn't excuse their actions. It is the shits that kids cannot treat each other more fairly, but I have never felt any pity for Eric and Dylan. Kids are cruel, school is cruel, life is cruel... but that doesn't give someone a license to go wreak havoc on innocents as an expression of their rage. If anything, target your specific adversaries... not helpless girls hiding in a library, praying to their lord as they stare down the barrel. No... those boys are where they need to be.

I do remember we share a similar opinion on the legalizing all drugs nonsense.
And no nothing personal at all then or now.

I am clearly in the minority on most subjects so that does not surprise me.
That does not surprise me either the bloodlust for James Holmes.
But it does sadden me knowing mental illness and it's victims.

The link I posted certainly was something I had never read and painted them harshly
as never being victimized by bullying. How I feel about revenge killing goes along
with those who prey on others, as I posted earlier, in most cases.
I do think though the Columbine shooters may have been very ill,
what came first the ill or the bullying I don't know.

I have also known some extremely depressed people and life was not valued, their own or others,
paying back society was a common threat while moving towards suicide.

pandora · August 2012

redrock wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

This would get my vote

Mine too! See how easy it is for women to agree and reach a consensus... Now apply this to world politics....

comebackgirl wrote:

norm wrote:

so there is one confirmed death at texas a&m

a cop

guess you can still get shot dead even if you are responsible and trained

Well Norm, he must have been unprepared and weak :nono:

Obviously not a 'twitchy' cop that one needs to defend one's self from.

wow this has to be one of the most insensitive posts I have ever read
as a policeman losses his life :? good lord

way to go an all new low... :fp:

and twisting words and thoughts of course

He was a brave first responder .... thought and prayers to his loved ones.

pandora · August 2012

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Just Another Day (August 13/12)

Another shooting today
Someone pulled out a gun and started laying waste
Nonexistent laws to blame?
That would be in poor taste

Just another day
Just another day
Just another day
In the USA

Condemn the killer
Ignore how it was done
Law abiders shouldn’t have to suffer
All because of the actions of one

Just another day
Just another day
Just another day
In the USA

Where did my rights go?
Right to life is just for show?
From my cold dead hands is how it goes
Stray bullet in my head, dirt between my toes

Did you write this from the lady's perspective who died two days ago here in my neighboring
town. Shot dead in cold blood by a criminal fleeing her home. Totally defenseless she was,
senselessly shot for what... fun?
Her Grandma watched her bleed out and die.

It sounds like it could be her words...

chadwick · August 2012

i just want a more peaceful earth that's all. seems to me women are more peaceful. men in power seem to be war mongers and the like.

for y'alls information... i'd never vote in michele bachman or that screwy ass sarah palin. those two woman are fulla poop six ways from sunday. they aren't good leaders and they sure aren't peaceful... at least palin sure isn't peaceful. she murders wolves & bears for entertainment purposes. i would imagine sara palin collects firearms like some collect bubble gum baseball cards

ComeToTX · August 2012

pandora wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Just Another Day (August 13/12)

Another shooting today
Someone pulled out a gun and started laying waste
Nonexistent laws to blame?
That would be in poor taste

Just another day
Just another day
Just another day
In the USA

Condemn the killer
Ignore how it was done
Law abiders shouldn’t have to suffer
All because of the actions of one

Just another day
Just another day
Just another day
In the USA

Where did my rights go?
Right to life is just for show?
From my cold dead hands is how it goes
Stray bullet in my head, dirt between my toes

Did you write this from the lady's perspective who died two days ago here in my neighboring
town. Shot dead in cold blood by a criminal fleeing her home. Totally defenseless she was,
senselessly shot for what... fun?
Her Grandma watched her bleed out and die.

It sounds like it could be her words...

I wish they could have done something to keep that gun out of the bad guys hand. I'm sure you agree that a cold blooded killer should not come to find himself with a gun as easily as I assume he did.

g under p · August 2012

redrock wrote:

Chadwick - i want a woman president so bad it is unreal. i am convinced men are 90% useless

g under p -The women of the board what say you......do you agree with this? :corn:

I believe there's some truth to this.

I certainly believe that if there were more women 'around the table', there would be a bit more conciliation and peace. I am not saying men are useless - far from that. It's just a different way of thinking. The women with some power at the moment (or in recent past) are not what I call 'real' women - such as Merkel, Thatcher, etc. These are women 'being' men in a man's world.

Edit - sorry my quoting went all wrong so I did it some other way - hope I got is right!

Therefore you see how quick a woman's ingenuity, they will always think or figure out a way to solve a problem.

The number of women world leaders are growing as we speak and even in this country we WILL have a woman as President one day maybe soon.

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/chart ... eaders.php

Things have steadlily improved in Jamaica under the leadership of Portia Simpson Miller

Peace

mickeyrat · August 2012

one of 2 solutions here.

Ban all ammo. 2nd amendment only says you can bear arms, not be overstocked on ammo!!

2nd, only allow weapons technology in civilian hands from the time this amendment was written.

g under p · August 2012

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

chadwick wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

Just Another Day (August 13/12)

Another shooting today
Someone pulled out a gun and started laying waste
Nonexistent laws to blame?
That would be in poor taste

Just another day
Just another day
Just another day
In the USA

Condemn the killer
Ignore how it was done
Law abiders shouldn’t have to suffer
All because of the actions of one

Just another day
Just another day
Just another day
In the USA

Where did my rights go?
Right to life is just for show?
From my cold dead hands is how it goes
Stray bullet in my head, dirt between my toes

your writing?
it's frickin awesome
i love the ending, "stray bullet in my head, dirt between my toes"

just another day
just another day
just another day
in the u.s.a.

yes, I wrote it 5 minutes ago after I read about the latest shooting at Texas A&M.

Very nice, you see all have this talent something just has to hit a cord within our soul-inner beings and writings such as this comes forth. Awesome baby...easy peasy Japaneasy :thumbup: .

Peace

pandora · August 2012

ComeToTX wrote:

pandora wrote:

Did you write this from the lady's perspective who died two days ago here in my neighboring
town. Shot dead in cold blood by a criminal fleeing her home. Totally defenseless she was,
senselessly shot for what... fun?
Her Grandma watched her bleed out and die.

It sounds like it could be her words...

I wish they could have done something to keep that gun out of the bad guys hand. I'm sure you agree that a cold blooded killer should not come to find himself with a gun as easily as I assume he did.

Thats is the crux of the problem, laws can't keep us safe or guns out of the hands of the bad guy...
why good guys need them.

My wish? she would have been she licensed to carry and that heartless killer
would be on his way to prison or shot dead.
As it stands now he can kill again.

g under p · August 2012

mickeyrat wrote:

one of 2 solutions here.

Ban all ammo. 2nd amendment only says you can bear arms, not be overstocked on ammo!!

2nd, only allow weapons technology in civilian hands from the time this amendment was written.

That would certainly cut down gun accidents and mass shootings for sure.

Peace

comebackgirl · August 2012

pandora wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

norm wrote:

so there is one confirmed death at texas a&m

a cop

guess you can still get shot dead even if you are responsible and trained

Well Norm, he must have been unprepared and weak :nono:

wow this has to be one of the most insensitive posts I have ever read
as a policeman losses his life :? good lord

way to go an all new low... :fp:

and twisting words and thoughts of course

He was a brave first responder .... thought and prayers to his loved ones.

pandora wrote:

Some people are just stronger than others, braver, it is in their make up to take control
of situations, to be prepared, trained. We see these folks, we are thankful when they are there,
with a gun or without.

In the world of sheep these stand out. They will protect their neighbors and even
a stranger when needed, risking their own lives because they know this is the
right thing to do.

Others know they must be able to protect themselves and their loved ones if the
need arises. They are aware of the very personal dangers or circumstances they live in
and are prepared as they see fit.

Then there are some who are unprepared, untrained and weak ...
with a gun or without,they will be a victim when the time comes,
a victim of their own stupidity or of someone else's.

I must have misunderstood your words here.

comebackgirl · August 2012

chadwick wrote:

i just want a more peaceful earth that's all.

Me too

EmBleve · August 2012

pandora wrote:

funny stuff ...

someone asked a question maybe expecting a different answer

yes, it's hilarious.

Cosmo · August 2012

comebackgirl wrote:

I must have misunderstood your words here.

...
He wasn't unprepared or weak... it must have been his own stupidity that got him killed.
...
Come on... pay attention.

mickeyrat · August 2012

Cosmo wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

I must have misunderstood your words here.

...
He wasn't unprepared or weak... it must have been his own stupidity that got him killed.
...
Come on... pay attention.

and that 65 yr old civilian. He was stupid unprepared AND weak for getting capped in this situation. he should have known that cop was going to serve an eviction at that moment and the guy in the house would start shooting.

g under p · August 2012

pandora wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

pandora wrote:

Did you write this from the lady's perspective who died two days ago here in my neighboring
town. Shot dead in cold blood by a criminal fleeing her home. Totally defenseless she was,
senselessly shot for what... fun?
Her Grandma watched her bleed out and die.

It sounds like it could be her words...

I wish they could have done something to keep that gun out of the bad guys hand. I'm sure you agree that a cold blooded killer should not come to find himself with a gun as easily as I assume he did.

Thats is the crux of the problem, laws can't keep us safe or guns out of the hands of the bad guy...
why good guys need them.

My wish? she would have been she licensed to carry and that heartless killer
would be on his way to prison or shot dead.
As it stands now he can kill again.

So I gather you must not be a good guy since you apparently don't own or carry a gun. Therefore this very same crime could happen to you. Also just because one has a gun doesn't automatically means things are going to turn out the way you've stated..it is not as easy as you think.

crux of the problem, laws can't keep us safe or guns out of the hands of the bad guy...
why good guys need them.

Yet when it's suggested to have more checks on internet purchases you appear not care for simple checks and balances of waiting period, registration and background checks. You appear to say that will take away guns from innocent victims.

So it appears you're saying everybody who is a good guy make it easier for them to get guns because the bad guys no matter who they may potentially be can always get their guns. OKay

Peace

comebackgirl · August 2012

Cosmo wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

I must have misunderstood your words here.

...
He wasn't unprepared or weak... it must have been his own stupidity that got him killed.
...
Come on... pay attention.

:fp: Please help me stay on track. I can't keep up

Hugh Freaking Dillon · August 2012

pandora wrote:

Did you write this from the lady's perspective who died two days ago here in my neighboring
town.
It sounds like it could be her words...

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

I wrote it 5 minutes ago after I read about the latest shooting at Texas A&M.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · August 2012

g under p wrote:

Very nice, you see all have this talent something just has to hit a cord within our soul-inner beings and writings such as this comes forth. Awesome baby...easy peasy Japaneasy :thumbup: .

Peace

I wouldn't say writing songs is easy (I've written hundreds), but this one sort of wrote itself over the past 100+ pages.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · August 2012

pandora wrote:

He was a brave first responder .... thought and prayers to his loved ones.

so hows about you clarify your "unprepared or weak" statement you made several pages back?

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