Reminder: Ed solo shows taping/camera policy

SVRDhand13 · July 2012

Reminder: Please STFU During EV Solo Shows

helplessdancer · July 2012

AndyVanSlyke wrote:

Radiohead plays Pact Like Sardines...for this first time in years. Person in front row is filming abnoxiouy. Watch :45-:50 and Johnny kneels down on the edge of the stage and just stares at the camera..funny as hell and speaks volumes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t92wfA9o ... ata_player

35000 hits and in HD and 7 pages of comments...hmmm must be for those fans that weren't there!
how nonselfish of the filmer to share that for us all
iloveyoutube

what was your point?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAv10Ss-II

Starlichtje · July 2012

The person sitting next to me in Amsterdam, the 2nd show, looked suprised when they asked not to photograph or film the concert. He assured me he wouldn't bother me with his camera, but I ended up with him filming the whole set, and it disturbed me a lot...
He was looking the whole time at his screen, and I did see the whole time the light coming of of that screen... :evil:

thefin190 · July 2012

I remember in Seattle, there were light flashes going off everywhere in the beginning, even though the policy said camera type devices were banned. So much so that Ed acknowledged it, and then played it off as well as he could, saying "alright, get it over with now". He then posed for the pictures (holding up a middle finger, then two middle fingers). One of my regrets was not bringing a suitable device where I could've taken a picture of him doing the double middle fingers. Even if I did, I would be too scared since security was walking up and down the aisles.

That being said, I really wish Ed would release official bootlegs. Alot of fans would be willing to pay a fair price for them. I think the fact that he doesn't, it encourages people to record and trade them illegally. The best way to reduce or eliminate these sort of recording devices is is offering a better alternative, rather than double down on enforcing the policy.

AndyVanSlyke · July 2012

helplessdancer wrote:

AndyVanSlyke wrote:

Radiohead plays Pact Like Sardines...for this first time in years. Person in front row is filming abnoxiouy. Watch :45-:50 and Johnny kneels down on the edge of the stage and just stares at the camera..funny as hell and speaks volumes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t92wfA9o ... ata_player

35000 hits and in HD and 7 pages of comments...hmmm must be for those fans that weren't there!
how nonselfish of the filmer to share that for us all
iloveyoutube

what was your point?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAv10Ss-II

Seeing a show is a privilege for people who pay for it. Sure, it's great to see a YouTube video but it's free. We pay to see a unique experience in person. Not to be distracted by a screen.

justam · July 2012

helplessdancer wrote:

35000 hits and in HD and 7 pages of comments...hmmm must be for those fans that weren't there!
how nonselfish of the filmer to share that for us all
iloveyoutube

what was your point?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAv10Ss-II

My comment is totally off the subject but, I saw this video you put up of the saxophone solo and I can't help but notice-->

This is an example of a solo that is note for note perfect but which is missing it's core. It kind of drags, drags, drags, because it doesn't have the emotion driving it forward. :?

ForceofNature101 · July 2012

Are there any rules about tape recorders themselves?

I don't see the harm in capturing the audio - it can be concealed so nobody is bothered by it like they are with cameras with the lights and flashing. Not to mention you get to relive the experience and share wonderful music and that ability to recapture that show with anyone else who has been to it - plus people who haven't can revel in hearing different versions of the songs they love

It is a win-win from my perspective

RideRick · July 2012

ForceofNature101 wrote:

Are there any rules about tape recorders themselves?

9. No recording or recording devices. If you are caught ... your film, tapes, discs, smart cards, drives or any type of recording will be confiscated and you'll be escorted out of the venue.

I was at the Eddie show at 25-07, first concert ever.
Can't believe people don't respect the wish of the man who you love, adore, understand, cherish, wish for so long time.
Ofcourse it is difficult but photo's are being made in the beginning of the show by professionals with infraredflashes. Only vids and musicrecordings are not made because he doesn't want it.

If you want to see Ed live but can't get to the show, buy Water on the road..

benjs · July 2012

thefin190 wrote:

I remember in Seattle, there were light flashes going off everywhere in the beginning, even though the policy said camera type devices were banned. So much so that Ed acknowledged it, and then played it off as well as he could, saying "alright, get it over with now". He then posed for the pictures (holding up a middle finger, then two middle fingers). One of my regrets was not bringing a suitable device where I could've taken a picture of him doing the double middle fingers. Even if I did, I would be too scared since security was walking up and down the aisles.

That being said, I really wish Ed would release official bootlegs. Alot of fans would be willing to pay a fair price for them. I think the fact that he doesn't, it encourages people to record and trade them illegally. The best way to reduce or eliminate these sort of recording devices is is offering a better alternative, rather than double down on enforcing the policy.

I agree about that ending statement. When I saw the Who during their Endless Wire tour, they offered DVDs of the show, professionally filmed and edited (albeit quite simply), for $25. Since an Eddie Vedder show is a solo affair, why he couldn't have someone at the back of the venue with a tripod-mounted camcorder recording the show, leave it entirely unedited - just a one-angle end product - is a bit beyond me. This is an untapped market so ripe with opportunity for profit for him. Charge $10-15 for an easy-to-produce, easy-to-distribute MP4 file on a DVD-R, and people would absolutely buy these. I've seen EV four times on his own now, and I would absolutely buy at least one.

Fifi_Ireland · July 2012

For the record, there was absolutely no request at the venue on entry, no posters, no announcements and no security checks that would have indicated its not ok to take either photos or videos during the gig in Manchester. Nothing at all that I could see. I went to the Chris Cornell songbook tour and every person was individually told on entry not to take any form of photo or recording.

Personally I was unaware that there is a totally different attitute towards taking stuff at Eddies gigs to PJ gigs.

I even waited for a number of songs to see whether there was any issue with people being asked to stop etc and there just didnt seem to be any problem with taking stuff. From what I could see from the circle absolutely no one was being stopped.

On that basis I took a few photos and I recorded one song. I have my camera on silent and flipped the screen off when filming, using the viewfinder and didnt need to hold it up so I know it didnt impact on anyone around me. I do appreciate that screens are extremely disctracting and I dont understand why people dont switch them off in particular those that arent even taking anything.

I apologise for not following the rule. It just didnt appear there was one on Saturday. I think maybe if this is really going to be policed you need the artist to appeal to the crowd. If eddie or even someone linked to him had made an announcement at the start then theres no way I would have filmed. Even if the artist doesnt want to do this themselves there needs to be some indication at the venue that its not ok. A prerecorded message even.

This is not a justification for photography on saturday but there are ways and means to take photos at gigs that dont impact on those around you. Every camera has a silent setting - the shutter sound on digital cameras is artificially put there to replicate the sound of a manual camera. Viewfinders can be used. And i have to say that I only try and take photos in the first couple of seconds of a song and then put it away as I agree, we are there for the music at the end of the day.

Given the prevalance of taking photos at gigs, I will repeat what I have said elsewhere, I personally think that there should be one song or a point at the beginning of the gig where the artist says ...snap away for this one and then please put all cameras away.......I genuinely believe 99.999999% would stick with this.

Again, I apologise for taking stuff Sat, and I hope I'm not black listed for admiting it

, I just genuinely believed based on what was going on at the venue that it appeared to be ok!

HENKES · July 2012

I think PJ/Eddie should have professional photographers at the shows so you could buy some cool photos of professional quality along with your bootleg later on. Then people wouldn't have to take 20 blurry pics with their iPhones.

There were professional photographers in Amsterdam during the first 2 songs.
Maybe you can grab these high quality pictures from the site

http://www.nu.nl/muziek/2867366/eddie-v ... hter.html#

http://www.flickr.com/photos/3fm/764622 ... otostream/

enjoy it

Paradajzar · July 2012

Just my 2 cents.......in Manchester I only wanted to take photo during the break (after Glen, before Edd) of the stage...and somehow I had flash on.......immediately there was security guy screaming at me, not to take pictures with the flash light. I asked him if ok without flash, and he said....YES, thats OK!!!

After that, I addmit I took like 10 photos during the whole show(no flash), and after reading this thread, and all complaints on manchester one......I feel bad like hell....I appologise if it was offending to anyone...

Other than that.....it was incredible show, what a performance by Ed, and Glen....one of best days/concerts ever for me, I still can not forget it....simply bcs of the power of the music...it can not get better than this

Uglyman · July 2012

Now if only there was a rule about idiots screaming song requests while he's trying to talk.

Fifi_Ireland · July 2012

or talking through quiet songs!

helplessdancer · July 2012

AndyVanSlyke wrote:

Seeing a show is a privilege for people who pay for it. Sure, it's great to see a YouTube video but it's free. We pay to see a unique experience in person. Not to be distracted by a screen.

ok fine then you must be the only person i know who doesn't watch(&appreciate?) live clips on youtube.
you can't have it both ways

iloveyoutube cause there's plenty of shows that i don't see and even if i was at the show and this certain filmer happened to be right in front of me i would understand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtsnO3aEi3g
i was up close for this show yet never saw it like exactly like this

one of my fave songs ever, best version ever played.
please consider me extremely grateful that it was captured.

helplessdancer · July 2012

justam wrote:

helplessdancer wrote:

35000 hits and in HD and 7 pages of comments...hmmm must be for those fans that weren't there!
how nonselfish of the filmer to share that for us all
iloveyoutube

what was your point?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAv10Ss-II

My comment is totally off the subject but, I saw this video you put up of the saxophone solo and I can't help but notice-->

This is an example of a solo that is note for note perfect but which is missing it's core. It kind of drags, drags, drags, because it doesn't have the emotion driving it forward. :?

Clarence doesn’t leave the E Street Band when he dies. He leaves when we die.

Jolly · July 2012

Just got back from London 1 - amazing gig, perfect set list (check it out if you haven't already) Plenty of tossers taking pictures throughout though, nothing to tell you not to (apart from the 10C email of course) nobody stopped them, despite Ed's little dig at the start of the night.

rushtos · July 2012

I saw two signs on the way in saying no flash photography and a couple of announcements were made over the tannoy ( I heard it the first time at the merch stand and then again once I had sat down ) saying at the artist's request, no flash photography is to be used. So I took a couple of pictures without the flash when the opportunity arose, such as when the lights would come up and during Hard Sun when there was a lighter background for the stage scenery. My impression was that the emphasis was very much on not using the flash and I could see why when Eddie started his set - after a minute or so the constant flashing got really annoying. At an arena gig, it's fine cos the lighting's going mental and strobing etc anyway. But at a small theatre, it's too much. I do think it should have been made clearer though and enforced properly. Security didn't seem bothered so it was a case of mixed messages really. :? (this was at Manchester btw)

texasistheSTEVEN · July 2012

I saw stewards telling people to stop filming today which was good. Didn't stop everyone though

Spags · July 2012

The flashes were awful during the first song, but I have to admit I would love to see some of the pics when Eddie posed, I bet the people down the front got some beauties!

Reminder: Ed solo shows taping/camera policy

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