Reminder: Ed solo shows taping/camera policy

Kat · July 2012

Ed wants these shows to be intimate and personal experiences with everyone who attends and the open taping and camera policy allowed at Pearl Jam's shows is suspended for Ed's shows. No recording or cameras so no trading of such contraband can possibly happen because the contraband doesn't exist, right?

Your cooperation on this is very appreciated. Please respect his wishes and you'll have a great experience with just the music and the artist...the memory will be forever in your minds.

x

binaural2002 · July 2012

But it seems so, that nor everbody respects this. I saw a few videos on YT.

SxDx1982 · July 2012

I think it's stupid to risk getting removed from the venue.

dasvidana · July 2012

I totally respect that. Although I must admit that I miss the thread-running during the EV shows. For the parents among us who are stuck at home with young kids, it's our way of experiencing the joy of "hearing" the next song on the set list. Just wish EV would allow that.

binaural2002 · July 2012

SxDx1982 wrote:

I think it's stupid to risk getting removed from the venue.

I think the same. Never would be forgive when I have to leave only because I´m to stupid because of not following the rules.

snow_board_rider · July 2012

but how are going to hear the boots if everybody follows the rules. If EV really didn't want people to record his shows he should release official boots so we can all hear them.

jeremy69 · July 2012

Sorry if my question seems dumb, but "camera" means that both video and photo shots are disallowed, or only video are? I'll be in 1st row at London 1 and would just like to take some photos...

Kat · July 2012

No cameras of any kind. Just enjoy the show; I hope you have a great time.

jeremy69 · July 2012

Kat wrote:

No cameras of any kind. Just enjoy the show; I hope you have a great time.

I will, thanx 4 the explanation...

Eddie NL · July 2012

I personally thought that Eddie didn't want camera's so he wouldn't be blinded all night by all the flashes, which I totally understand.

And as long as there will be official bootlegs I am fine with the no taping policy. I really love to relive the concert sitting on the couch... which I just did cos the first show is already online. I had goosebumps all over again!!

Also it really put a smile on my face seeing Mirella with the tambourine during Hard Sun on YT, she really looked happy

helplessdancer · July 2012

i get the no camera/video policy for these shows

but, i do find it rather ironic that eddie has a policy about no taping when he was once recording(making tapes) of springsteen shows etc.

guess he recorded stealth back then :ugeek:

some things will never change and i'm thankful of that

pdalowsky · July 2012

I think 50% of the crowd missed this thread last night

However .. The security were really relaxed about this and nothing like we heard about from the states. Shame really

Eraserhead · July 2012

50% of the crowd - and the rest. Even the woman from the St Johns Ambulance was filming!

reaching hands · July 2012

last night was ridiculas it was a sea of camera phones. During the Ed&Glen accapella/unplugged section when everyone was quiet...you should of heard a pin drop but you just heard the noise of digital shutters :nono:

boyo79 · July 2012

Yep that didn't happen last night. Lots of photos being taken. Security was very relaxed, they let people go to the front of the stage before Ed came on to take pictures of his setup. I was suprised they were letting people stand up during some songs - though the whole venue was on its feet for RIFTW and Hard Sun

its_ok · July 2012

reaching hands wrote:

last night was ridiculas it was a sea of camera phones. During the Ed&Glen accapella/unplugged section when everyone was quiet...you should of heard a pin drop but you just heard the noise of digital shutters :nono:

This. It's more important for a lot of people to have proof of them being there than enjoying the moment.

I think PJ/Eddie should have professional photographers at the shows so you could buy some cool photos of professional quality along with your bootleg later on. Then people wouldn't have to take 20 blurry pics with their iPhones.

stargirl69 · July 2012

Why is there not a far harsher penalty for this complete disregard for an artists wishes? I witnessed the same at Chris Cornell in Glasgow,there were notices all over the venue about no filming or cameras yet selfish ignorant people still openly did it.
The security were very tight in the area I was sitting in though,many people were told to stop or they would be escorted out of the venue,it worked,people put their cameras away.Faced with being put out and missing the gig people would choose to put the cameras away.A removal policy should be de rigueur for such behaviour.

As for the set threads,I have never heard nor read anything so ridiculous and irritating.Wankers that spend all their time at the gig updating their egobook and twatters as to what is being played so that the locked out masses can 'feel' as if they are actually there all takes away from the fact it is a gig for the people that got tickets.Not for the people that didn't.
It seems no event is sacred from the pollution that is today's instant society of letting everyone know exactly what you are doing at exactly the time you are doing it.

I loved the days when a gig was a gig with bars closed during a set and no cameras being shoved in the air to gain a grainy picture,are people's memories so poor these days that they can't hold the wonder of what they saw and heard inside as treasures rather than outside as ego strokes.

big mick · July 2012

Respect what the man has asked, no cameras means no cameras, he wants to sit and spend time with you and not have phones shoved in his face, PJ have just toured for people to do that in arenas not smaller intimate venues. I'd like a couple of decent photos but if Ed says no then I'm glad to be at the show.
WHO WANTS TO WATCH A SHOW THROUGH A PHONE SCREEN ANYWAY, ITS SAD!!!!

rikfw · July 2012

i was at she second show in Amsterdam and only very little people where filming so it was not a problem or disturbing. I my self never film during a show becuase i do not want to miss a thing or see it trough a camera. I must admit I am glad some people do so i can look it back and relive the show. Also i think that fans who could not be at a show should be able to see or hear some of it especialy when there are rare songs played.

But most of all the wishes of the artist shoud be respected.

Miiike · July 2012

big mick wrote:

WHO WANTS TO WATCH A SHOW THROUGH A PHONE SCREEN ANYWAY, ITS SAD!!!!

I know right? It's so sad!!! So sad. At my last PJ gig I was on the rail up the front, and at one stage I let this little thing take my spot on the rail so she could see the boys, and you know what she did?? She just stood there filming with her phone (or camera, I can't remember) . . . didn't bother to put the phone away so she could actually clap eyes on the boys with her own blessed sense of sight, no she just looked at that screen the whole time!!! So sad!!!! I don't think I've ever taken a photo at a PJ concert (although fuck I wish I had for some! My outfit in '95 would have been awesome) I'm always too bloody excited and drinking it all in. When I'm really hanging to look at my heroes' faces (which yah, probably happens more than it should) there's like a gazzilion photos online, that are going to be a lot better than the crappy photos I took while waving my arm around in the dark. I can understand wanting to take a few photos of your night (especially of yourself and your mates) but I really don't get documenting the whole thing while you're there, for what? To watch later? To show to people? I'm sure there are some people with really valid reasons for filming (i.e. they promised to film as much as possible for a friend who couldn't make it, or they want to share the gig over youtube with fans who can't make it, or they're a techie-type-geek and love cameras and shit) but every second fucking person is engaging with a concert through a fucking camera these days!!! IT'S SO SAD! SO NAFF! C'mon people, live a little. You can't take your photos with you when you die, but I reckon you can probably take your experiences, and your memories

AndyVanSlyke · July 2012

Radiohead plays Pact Like Sardines...for this first time in years. Person in front row is filming abnoxiouy. Watch :45-:50 and Johnny kneels down on the edge of the stage and just stares at the camera..funny as hell and speaks volumes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t92wfA9o ... ata_player

SVRDhand13 · July 2012

Reminder: Please STFU During EV Solo Shows

helplessdancer · July 2012

AndyVanSlyke wrote:

Radiohead plays Pact Like Sardines...for this first time in years. Person in front row is filming abnoxiouy. Watch :45-:50 and Johnny kneels down on the edge of the stage and just stares at the camera..funny as hell and speaks volumes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t92wfA9o ... ata_player

35000 hits and in HD and 7 pages of comments...hmmm must be for those fans that weren't there!
how nonselfish of the filmer to share that for us all
iloveyoutube

what was your point?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAv10Ss-II

Starlichtje · July 2012

The person sitting next to me in Amsterdam, the 2nd show, looked suprised when they asked not to photograph or film the concert. He assured me he wouldn't bother me with his camera, but I ended up with him filming the whole set, and it disturbed me a lot...
He was looking the whole time at his screen, and I did see the whole time the light coming of of that screen... :evil:

thefin190 · July 2012

I remember in Seattle, there were light flashes going off everywhere in the beginning, even though the policy said camera type devices were banned. So much so that Ed acknowledged it, and then played it off as well as he could, saying "alright, get it over with now". He then posed for the pictures (holding up a middle finger, then two middle fingers). One of my regrets was not bringing a suitable device where I could've taken a picture of him doing the double middle fingers. Even if I did, I would be too scared since security was walking up and down the aisles.

That being said, I really wish Ed would release official bootlegs. Alot of fans would be willing to pay a fair price for them. I think the fact that he doesn't, it encourages people to record and trade them illegally. The best way to reduce or eliminate these sort of recording devices is is offering a better alternative, rather than double down on enforcing the policy.

AndyVanSlyke · July 2012

helplessdancer wrote:

AndyVanSlyke wrote:

Radiohead plays Pact Like Sardines...for this first time in years. Person in front row is filming abnoxiouy. Watch :45-:50 and Johnny kneels down on the edge of the stage and just stares at the camera..funny as hell and speaks volumes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t92wfA9o ... ata_player

35000 hits and in HD and 7 pages of comments...hmmm must be for those fans that weren't there!
how nonselfish of the filmer to share that for us all
iloveyoutube

what was your point?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAv10Ss-II

Seeing a show is a privilege for people who pay for it. Sure, it's great to see a YouTube video but it's free. We pay to see a unique experience in person. Not to be distracted by a screen.

justam · July 2012

helplessdancer wrote:

35000 hits and in HD and 7 pages of comments...hmmm must be for those fans that weren't there!
how nonselfish of the filmer to share that for us all
iloveyoutube

what was your point?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAv10Ss-II

My comment is totally off the subject but, I saw this video you put up of the saxophone solo and I can't help but notice-->

This is an example of a solo that is note for note perfect but which is missing it's core. It kind of drags, drags, drags, because it doesn't have the emotion driving it forward. :?

ForceofNature101 · July 2012

Are there any rules about tape recorders themselves?

I don't see the harm in capturing the audio - it can be concealed so nobody is bothered by it like they are with cameras with the lights and flashing. Not to mention you get to relive the experience and share wonderful music and that ability to recapture that show with anyone else who has been to it - plus people who haven't can revel in hearing different versions of the songs they love

It is a win-win from my perspective

RideRick · July 2012

ForceofNature101 wrote:

Are there any rules about tape recorders themselves?

9. No recording or recording devices. If you are caught ... your film, tapes, discs, smart cards, drives or any type of recording will be confiscated and you'll be escorted out of the venue.

I was at the Eddie show at 25-07, first concert ever.
Can't believe people don't respect the wish of the man who you love, adore, understand, cherish, wish for so long time.
Ofcourse it is difficult but photo's are being made in the beginning of the show by professionals with infraredflashes. Only vids and musicrecordings are not made because he doesn't want it.

If you want to see Ed live but can't get to the show, buy Water on the road..

benjs · July 2012

thefin190 wrote:

I remember in Seattle, there were light flashes going off everywhere in the beginning, even though the policy said camera type devices were banned. So much so that Ed acknowledged it, and then played it off as well as he could, saying "alright, get it over with now". He then posed for the pictures (holding up a middle finger, then two middle fingers). One of my regrets was not bringing a suitable device where I could've taken a picture of him doing the double middle fingers. Even if I did, I would be too scared since security was walking up and down the aisles.

That being said, I really wish Ed would release official bootlegs. Alot of fans would be willing to pay a fair price for them. I think the fact that he doesn't, it encourages people to record and trade them illegally. The best way to reduce or eliminate these sort of recording devices is is offering a better alternative, rather than double down on enforcing the policy.

I agree about that ending statement. When I saw the Who during their Endless Wire tour, they offered DVDs of the show, professionally filmed and edited (albeit quite simply), for $25. Since an Eddie Vedder show is a solo affair, why he couldn't have someone at the back of the venue with a tripod-mounted camcorder recording the show, leave it entirely unedited - just a one-angle end product - is a bit beyond me. This is an untapped market so ripe with opportunity for profit for him. Charge $10-15 for an easy-to-produce, easy-to-distribute MP4 file on a DVD-R, and people would absolutely buy these. I've seen EV four times on his own now, and I would absolutely buy at least one.

Fifi_Ireland · July 2012

For the record, there was absolutely no request at the venue on entry, no posters, no announcements and no security checks that would have indicated its not ok to take either photos or videos during the gig in Manchester. Nothing at all that I could see. I went to the Chris Cornell songbook tour and every person was individually told on entry not to take any form of photo or recording.

Personally I was unaware that there is a totally different attitute towards taking stuff at Eddies gigs to PJ gigs.

I even waited for a number of songs to see whether there was any issue with people being asked to stop etc and there just didnt seem to be any problem with taking stuff. From what I could see from the circle absolutely no one was being stopped.

On that basis I took a few photos and I recorded one song. I have my camera on silent and flipped the screen off when filming, using the viewfinder and didnt need to hold it up so I know it didnt impact on anyone around me. I do appreciate that screens are extremely disctracting and I dont understand why people dont switch them off in particular those that arent even taking anything.

I apologise for not following the rule. It just didnt appear there was one on Saturday. I think maybe if this is really going to be policed you need the artist to appeal to the crowd. If eddie or even someone linked to him had made an announcement at the start then theres no way I would have filmed. Even if the artist doesnt want to do this themselves there needs to be some indication at the venue that its not ok. A prerecorded message even.

This is not a justification for photography on saturday but there are ways and means to take photos at gigs that dont impact on those around you. Every camera has a silent setting - the shutter sound on digital cameras is artificially put there to replicate the sound of a manual camera. Viewfinders can be used. And i have to say that I only try and take photos in the first couple of seconds of a song and then put it away as I agree, we are there for the music at the end of the day.

Given the prevalance of taking photos at gigs, I will repeat what I have said elsewhere, I personally think that there should be one song or a point at the beginning of the gig where the artist says ...snap away for this one and then please put all cameras away.......I genuinely believe 99.999999% would stick with this.

Again, I apologise for taking stuff Sat, and I hope I'm not black listed for admiting it

, I just genuinely believed based on what was going on at the venue that it appeared to be ok!

Reminder: Ed solo shows taping/camera policy

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