The Official Philadelphia Flyers Thread

The Fixer wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

I dont think it does us any good to give up both Coburn and Mezsaros. It's either one or the other.
I'd give them Voracek, Read, a couple of 1's and either Coburn or Mez.

Just read a speculatory rumor that would have nashville delining to match and therefore getting four ones from the flyers. In turn nashville would send the ones from '14-'16 back to the flyers with the flyers sending voracek, meszaros, and one of bourdon/wellwood to nashville. This would actually save the flyers cap space even after adding weber's contract.

Is it wednesday yet?

I saw that. The question remains, is Nashville going to scrape enough money together to match or will they bite the bullet on the 4 draft picks?
This offer sheet was executed to put Nashville in a very difficult position. The guaranteed money to Weber in the first couple years counts whether there is a lockout or not.($26M in the first two years). Last year, even with a successful run, the preds still lost around $7M. Their gate revenue was only $24M, therefore they would be paying more money to Weber in 1 yr than what they make in ticket revenue.

The Fixer wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

I dont think it does us any good to give up both Coburn and Mezsaros. It's either one or the other.
I'd give them Voracek, Read, a couple of 1's and either Coburn or Mez.

I saw that. The question remains, is Nashville going to scrape enough money together to match or will they bite the bullet on the 4 draft picks?
This offer sheet was executed to put Nashville in a very difficult position. The guaranteed money to Weber in the first couple years counts whether there is a lockout or not.($26M in the first two years). Last year, even with a successful run, the preds still lost around $7M. Their gate revenue was only $24M, therefore they would be paying more money to Weber in 1 yr than what they make in ticket revenue.

article also said they could have up to 14 FAs going into 2013. that's nuts

Yes. And say the Preds match the offer, they will not have enough cap room to field any kind of competitive team. Especially when Rinne is making $7M/yr.

I wouldnt call Voracek an average player. Skill wise, he's at the top of 3 of the team. He just has trouble finishing and always looks for the set-up.

Dr. Delight wrote:

I wouldnt call Voracek an average player. Skill wise, he's at the top of 3 of the team. He just has trouble finishing and always looks for the set-up.

I like him too. Great skater...can play the point on the PP, kill penalties, play on any line, etc. He's a well rounded player who has a lot of offensive upside. He's solid.

If they have to move him to lock weber up...c-ya jake

The Fixer wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

Curious to see if the Nash to Rangers forces Holmgrens hand to make sure Weber lands here.

Or that deal might be a response by the Rangers because they may know the Preds arent matching the offer sheet. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Yeah, I read over the weekend that the rangers had upped their offer in lue of what the flyers did. assuming weber lands here ya gotta figure the pens will be making a big move. I still think doan ends up on crosbys line.

I can see Doan in Pittsburgh if the Coyotes/NHL cant get any kind of sale out west.

If for some reason this Weber fiasco fails for the Flyers, I expect B. Ryan to be traded for immediately.

I found this on the csnphilly site. I know it's crazy but i think that this trade would help both teams. The comments afterwards remind me of all Philly team threads here.

Here is something i have been thinking about. The Flyers want Weber and they seem to want Doan. The Predators want talent now to keep them competitive and for the future. What if the Flyers and the Predators did a blockbuster trade? I mean something no one would ever think of. Here is my idea. This is just an idea and i know i might be called nuts. But i also said that the Flyers would guaranteed get Weber some way or another Here' my thought.

The Flyers would trade for Shea Weber and Pekka Rinne.

The Predators receive the 4 1st round picks, Ilya Bryzgalov, Andres Meszaros, Matt Read and Jakub Voracek.

Here is why this trade may not be as crazy as thought. The Flyers want Weber and they want Doan. They would really have to make some cap room in order to really do that. They also don't feel comfortable with Bryz no matter how much they try to sugar coat it. They think and most fans think he is a better fit for a smaller market team with less of a media frenzy. He might excel with Nashville. He did with Anaheim and Phoenix.

The Predators would get immediate help and help for the future. They would get Meszaros who was the best D-man on the team 2 years ago and last year was really good before the injuries. He also wont be 27 until October. He steps in to help with the loss of Weber. Bryz in all honesty was better then Rinne until he came to the Flyers. So even though he had a inconsistent year last year he has been pretty damn good through his career. But not in a media driven market. Matt Read is also a good young forward that could possibly be a guy like Patrick Sharp once he was traded to the Blackhawks. He is also Cheap. Then comes Voracek, who could be signed by Nashville long term since they would and do have more cap room then the Flyers and could get a deal done. They also get a good scorer who could flourish from being on the top line. Not to mention the Predators still get their 4 1st round picks they would get for losing Weber.

The Flyers would then in turn have cap room to get Doan and don't give up Schenn or Couturier. This trade may sound either bad for the Flyers or the Predators but long term it could help both teams. The Predators get Bryzgalov signed long term and don't have to worry about Rinne walking or asking for a trade and the Flyers get a guy who would still have Weber playing in front of him and a pretty potent offense still even if they lost JVR, Jagr, Read and Vorachek from the last year. Doan and Fedotenko would help fill that void. Considering that JVR didn't do anything last year. This could be a great trade for both teams in every aspect and helps Nashville save face and stay competitive. Its probably a pipe dream (it is 99.9% a pipe dream) but you never know. We are talking about the Flyers

Dr. Delight wrote:

Maybe if S. Howson was the Preds GM.

You are talking about getting Nashvilles top two players and not having to give up one of your own top players.
I would run 5 miles naked if that deal was to ever happen.

yea that was wayyyy out there :?

neilybabes86 wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

Maybe if S. Howson was the Preds GM.

You are talking about getting Nashvilles top two players and not having to give up one of your own top players.
I would run 5 miles naked if that deal was to ever happen.

yea that was wayyyy out there :?

I agree but I figured I'd share. As crazy as it sounds it sounds it kinda makes some sense.

neilybabes86 wrote:

i cant see how nashville doesnt match

they had 100 million for suter...where di it go?

4 picks from the flyers mean dick..they will all be 20 or higher

we shall see soon enough

The way homer structured the first couple years would kill Nashville. I read they grossed 24 million last year. Weber would get 26 in the first year alone. Homers an animal!!!