who thinks Johnny Guitar was not a very good song?

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Big Bank Hank
Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
edited August 2013 in The Porch
not saying it's bad but I ranked it #11 out of 11 songs on Backspacer, it's all right but nothing special just an okay song in my estimation, all opinions wanted
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  • rpech'e
    rpech'e Posts: 1,106
    I always skip it :yawn:
  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    rpech'e wrote:
    I always skip it :yawn:
    good I thought I was the only one
  • betterday52
    betterday52 Posts: 204
    I skip it too. at best it's a homage to one band member favorite musican.
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  • drummerboy_73
    drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    Well, for a different opinion, I love it - it's in my top 3 from the album, along with Unthought Known and Got Some. Probably has to do with the off-time drum groove and it's just great fun to play along to. Same reason I love songs like "Evacuation" which doesn't seem to be a popular choice around here either.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    On a mostly pretty boring album, I think this one sticks out in a positive way. Think PJ brought something fresh and cool compared to their usual forays into punkier territory.
  • veddertown
    veddertown Scotland Posts: 5,260
    I actually love Johnny Guitar. It has that very 70's sounding riff similar to the way Unemployable does. It's very Ace Frehley I think and although it's not a classic it's great fun to hear live and gets you jumping around. I prefer it to the singles from the album along with The End and Force Of Nature. I don't think the album has enough quality to rate anything as a classic but JG is really underrated for me.
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  • PJStatTracker
    PJStatTracker Posts: 2,400
    I love Johnny Guitar - great live song, and in my top five on the album. Amongst the Waves is probably my least favorite.
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  • nukeboot
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    I love Johnny Guitar - great live song, and in my top five on the album. Amongst the Waves is probably my least favorite.

    We have exactly opposite tastes, which is fine.
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  • PJStatTracker
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    nukeboot wrote:
    I love Johnny Guitar - great live song, and in my top five on the album. Amongst the Waves is probably my least favorite.

    We have exactly opposite tastes, which is fine.

    i'm comfortable with it
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    no one in the middle on this one either love or hate, lol
  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    I like it.. gives the album some teeth..
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Caveeze wrote:
    I like it.. gives the album some teeth..
    I thought Got Some was that song, a song with a clear meaning and purpose to the point and well constructed
  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Caveeze wrote:
    I like it.. gives the album some teeth..
    I thought Got Some was that song, a song with a clear meaning and purpose to the point and well constructed
    Johnny Guitar has a pretty clear meaning!! extremely clear, actually..

    and, It is very well constructed.. out of teh box and great..
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    edited June 2012
    I just think it is lyrically not Eddie's finest work


    Johnny Guitar wasn't staring at me
    Riding on 3 wheels, a woman on his knee
    With a leg under the red dress I wish I could see
    Farther? the love of lingering
    Now Johnny he be having lots of women
    Oh the reason he'd be smiling known to him

    On the left the girl in red so innocent
    Never sheds her clothes even when she goes to bed
    Yeah on top the girl responsible for original sin
    Can't help but wonder where and who she is
    Oh and the memory's always getting clearer
    First thirty years and more I've loved her so
    But now I need to know why she's with him
    And I sleep with the light on in case she comes
    And I sleep with the light on in case she...

    Recently as I was waiting on a dream
    She came to visit lost and lonely me
    Oh she leaned over the bed and with the lips above my head
    She asked if I had seen her Johnny
    Oh and I hide my disappointment cause for years I have been hoping
    Oh yeah I have been hoping that when she came that she would come for me

    Hey... hey...

    I'll hide my disappointment cause for years I have been hoping
    That when she came she'd be coming just for me...
    I'll hide my disappointment cause for years I have been hoping
    That when she came she'd be coming just for me... ah yeah!

    Aw yeah!
    Aw yeah!
    Hoo...

    More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/p/pearl_jam/#share
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  • I love the song, one of the best on the album. It has a unique sound that I wouldn't mind the band returning to in the future. Certainly a delight to hear live.
  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    I just think it is lyrically not Eddie's finest work


    really? he paints a very clear picture for the listener.. Its not nearly as ambiguous or vague as others..

    I am not here to argue.. I just really like that song.. :D
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  • GD274660
    GD274660 Posts: 514
    I just think it is lyrically not Eddie's finest work

    First off, those lyrics are wrong. Secondly, two of my favorite lyrics ever:

    "With a leg under a red dress I wish I could see
    Further north a warmth alive & lingering"

    and

    "Recently as I was waiting on a dream
    She came to visit lost & lonely me
    She leaned over the bed & with her lips above my head
    She asked if I had seen her Johnny
    Oh and I hide my disappointment
    Cause for years I had been hoping
    Oh yeh how I had been hoping
    That when she came, she would come for me"

    Favorite song on the cd.
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    well I hope he plays it for you when you are in attendance
  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,409
    DewieCox wrote:
    On a mostly pretty boring album, I think this one sticks out in a positive way. Think PJ brought something fresh and cool compared to their usual forays into punkier territory.

    this.

    Yeah I hated it at first... but over time I came to the same conclusion
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  • NoWay
    NoWay St. Louis Posts: 347
    Didn't like it much at first. Love it now. Funny how that happens.
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