No More Festivals!!!

jfm · June 2007

**this goes straight to Pearl Jam**

Hi guys,

i don't know if you would ever read this but i feel i have to write what i think: i was in Mestre last night and just came back at home after hours and hours of driving out of that hell.
You can't even imagine how much i love you and your music (i'll be in London and Dusseldorf in spite of everything, catching plane for the 1st time in my life only to come and see you...)

BUT

in the name of this love and passion, i wanna ask you PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE...

DON'T PLAY FESTIVALS ANYMORE!

DON'T get involved in something set up only to make money and speculate on people's passion. Do your own tours, play shows everywhere you want...we'll be as always in the 1st row enjoying the show, but PLEASE DON'T PLAY FESTIVALS: they've shown in too many occasions they can't absolutely guarantee people's safety that you always proved to care so much. Yesterday in Mestre almost ALL structures collapsed in less than 10 minutes on our heads...this is UNACCEPTABLE and UNJUSTIFIABLE.
We were lucky enough to came back home safe, but maybe next time someone else couldn't be as fortunate.

I really hope you'll read and take in consideration my "request" that - i assure you - reflects a lot of people's thought.
I'm sure you love us as much as we love you so PLEASE don't play festivals anymore.

With love,

Paolo

luxpjamer · June 2007

First of all I'm glad to hear you're doing well. It must have been terrible. But I on't think that the solution would be that pearl jam stops playing at festivals. I think that even if it was terrible what happened yesterday and all of all in roskilde it's the organization comitee to assure peoples security and most of the time this is guaranteed. How often do you read that accidents happens? There's always a risk that something happens at a big happening and that can also be in a concert of a tour. It's not pearl jam's and the festival's lovers fault.

redlady · June 2007

What the hell are you talking about this has absolutely nothing to do with festivals it's mothernature and thats one thing that no one can do annything about ...We never see them here in Belgium so were glad we can see them here at Werchter yeah right they were here last year but some of us had to wait for 15 years to see them and i myself 10 years so DON'T SAY THINGS LIKE THAT you gonna piss of manny people by telling those things including me....:mad: :mad:

Rijeka · June 2007

Well yesterday in Venice, and on my way back I was thinking something like the author of this post, but today when I slept about 4 hrs I realize that it doesn't have anything to do with the band(s) or with the festivals. It's just unpredictable and unstoppable.

No_CoDeyeah · June 2007

I am understanding that you are dessapointed, sad whatever, but the purpose of your post is a little bit too much dramatic, there is a thing call nature and by definition it's unforeseeable so don't take that too seriously and by the way it's not fair in regards of people who are waiting for them in the following festivals

meme · June 2007

No_CoDeyeah wrote:

I am understanding that you are dessapointed, sad whatever, but the purpose of your post is a little bit too much dramatic, there is a thing call nature and by definition it's unforeseeable so don't take that too seriously and by the way it's not fair in regards of people who are waiting for them in the following festivals

Sorry, but we Italians are used to organizers/the government fucking up in facing up to "mother nature". Those structures were not properly secured, it seems to me. I trust the Pearl Jam people much more than festival organizers.

mnarob3 · June 2007

redlady wrote:

What the hell are you talking about this has absolutely nothing to do with festivals it's mothernature and thats one thing that no one can do annything about ...We never see them here in Belgium so were glad we can see them here at Werchter yeah right they were here last year but some of us had to wait for 15 years to see them and i myself 10 years so DON'T SAY THINGS LIKE THAT you gonna piss of manny people by telling those things including me....:mad: :mad:

my thoughts exactly!!!!

romybian · June 2007

I believe they've only accepted to play at festivals that were covered for most of the misfortunes that could happen. But you never know when Mother Nature's gonna hit, and that's not usual I'm sure (what happened at the Heineken gig).
We know for a fact some festivals have even improved their security just cause PJ said they wouldn't play if they didn't, they're doing everything they can, plus, they give us the opportunity to enjoy their music in that enviornment.... wich I believe is great.
Not playing more festivals is like running away from their fears... I think they've been brave enough to overcome it and risponsable enough to make sure it doesn't happen again....
...IMO

duggro · June 2007

nonsense

solaruppras · June 2007

I've already written two posts about what happened yesterday, so i won't repeat anything. but saying "it's only mother nature" it's an excuse. we're not talking about hurricane katrina, we're talking about of 3 minutes of heavy rain and hailstones. if a tree collapse, it's mother nature, if 8 iron towers (not a prdocut of our mother nature

)are not fixed on the ground because the park it's an ex rubbish dump of toxic residuals still underground do so, it's human fault.

And by the way, i guess the sense of jfm post is that since we know how much pearl jam care about security, the only way to ensure security it's playing only thier own proper shows under their entourage responsibilities, and i will add only in inside venues, and seats only. nobody is praying for next festivals already scheduled to be cancelled. And sorry but since yesterday i never thought something like "shit, i missed pearl jam", only "luckily me and my lady are safe".

No_CoDeyeah · June 2007

solaruppras wrote:

I've already written two posts about what happened yesterday, so i won't repeat anything. but saying "it's only mother nature" it's an excuse. we're not talking about hurricane katrina, we're talking about of 3 minutes of heavy rain and hailstones. if a tree collapse, it's mother nature, if 8 iron towers (not a prdocut of our mother nature )are not fixed on the ground because the park it's an ex rubbish dump of toxic residuals still underground do so, it's human fault.

And by the way, i guess the sense of jfm post is that since we know how much pearl jam care about security, the only way to ensure security it's playing only thier own proper shows under their entourage responsibilities, and i will add only in inside venues, and seats only. nobody is praying for next festivals already scheduled to be cancelled. And sorry but since yesterday i never thought something like "shit, i missed pearl jam", only "luckily me and my lady are safe".

Come on man you are not talking about a massacre, or a total war, things like that happens sometimes, it's nobody's fault in particular, if you are desagree with organiation of festivals or whatelse sent message in the right place

solaruppras · June 2007

No_CoDeyeah wrote:

Come on man you are not talking about a massacre, or a total war, things like that happens sometimes, it's nobody's fault in particular, if you are desagree with organiation of festivals or whatelse sent message in the right place

well, maybe i was not clear, so this is my last post about it and that's it.
1). i'm not saying it's pearl jam fault, i'm just sharing impressions because i was there. i don't know if you were there, so maybe you don't know how it's like to be there in the middle of the storm, thinking about that just 20 minutes before you were sitting and chatting with friends under one of the towers that collapsed;
2) it was 5 o clock, and it was a moment of pause between le mani (an italian supporting band) and my chemical romance (the first of the main act). there were not much people aorund the stage and even a lot of people was still not even inside the venue. let's now imagine if that mess happened during the pearl jam (30000 tickets sold, so 30000 thousand people packed like sardines).
3) imagine if that happened on sunday, when the most famous italian singer was scheduled to play, wih 106000 tickets already sold and 150000 people supposed to be there.
4)imagine now if the storm lasted more than only 5 minutes, like it was.
Does it sound like a possible massacre or still not?

Eraserhead · June 2007

Indoor, seated shows all the way!

mAci · June 2007

seated shows????you are just kidding,dont you???the best solution is to play inside venues of course,but you cant guarantee that nothing can happen...and btw. in katowice,there were 45000 people on the show,more than in venice,so not playing festivals is absolutly nonsense

Rijeka · June 2007

Eraserhead wrote:

Indoor, seated shows all the way!

yeah right, and The Vienna Boys Choir as opening band on every show

jfm · June 2007

Someone could lost his life out there so we can only feel grateful it didn't happened. I'm not saying it's Pearl Jam's fault: we were so excited about the show, drove all night to be there as soon as possible, all ready to enjoy the evening.
Saying that was Mother Nature's fault is a convenient excuse to cover the lack of organization and HUMAN's responsibility...i'm sorry but i can't accept this.
For those who said that, my purpose wasn't to piss off people or anything like that: we're here for the same reason, the same love for this band so i really hope you will enjoy shows you're gonna be at. I'm just saying that in my opinion Pearl Jam should play only their own shows, where they can directly control security. It's pretty obvious that something bad could happen even in that situation, but i think there's an higher risk at festivals. That's all.

Peace,

Paolo

@ luxpjamer: yeah, it was terrible and scary but luckily me and my friends didn't get hurt. Thanks for caring.

bootlegger10 · June 2007

No one is forcing you to go to a festival show. They are doing their own shows as well, which you are going to. I'm skipping Lollapalooza, it isn't that difficult.

Dercheef · June 2007

bootlegger10 wrote:

No one is forcing you to go to a festival show. They are doing their own shows as well, which you are going to. I'm skipping Lollapalooza, it isn't that difficult.

Good comment. If you think it's not save enough at a festival or at an outdoor gig or at a standing gig (where most of the time seats are available too) just don't go there. It's not like stuff like that happens all the time at festivals or people get seriously hurt at standing gigs. In fact, it's pretty rare. I'm not saying it wasn't anybodys fault that those towers collapsed and by the looks of things we can be very happy that noone was seriously hurt but when even cars get turned upside down you can hardly expect nothing to happen like it did.
In my opinion outdoor or standings gigs are secure if they get organised well.

lazygun_99 · June 2007

Yeah but remember the roof fell in on that hall in I think it was Poland the other year. No matter how careful you are things can go wrong and standing in a big crowd of lots of other people tends to mean that when it goes wrong it goes really quite wrong.

dave grolsch · June 2007

jfm wrote:

**this goes straight to Pearl Jam**

Hi guys,

i don't know if you would ever read this but i feel i have to write what i think: i was in Mestre last night and just came back at home after hours and hours of driving out of that hell.
You can't even imagine how much i love you and your music (i'll be in London and Dusseldorf in spite of everything, catching plane for the 1st time in my life only to come and see you...)

BUT

in the name of this love and passion, i wanna ask you PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE...

DON'T PLAY FESTIVALS ANYMORE!

DON'T get involved in something set up only to make money and speculate on people's passion. Do your own tours, play shows everywhere you want...we'll be as always in the 1st row enjoying the show, but PLEASE DON'T PLAY FESTIVALS: they've shown in too many occasions they can't absolutely guarantee people's safety that you always proved to care so much. Yesterday in Mestre almost ALL structures collapsed in less than 10 minutes on our heads...this is UNACCEPTABLE and UNJUSTIFIABLE.
We were lucky enough to came back home safe, but maybe next time someone else couldn't be as fortunate.

I really hope you'll read and take in consideration my "request" that - i assure you - reflects a lot of people's thought.
I'm sure you love us as much as we love you so PLEASE don't play festivals anymore.

With love,

Paolo

firstly i am pleased everyone is still breathing,but c,mon after 2000 our boys dont need to be hearing what you are saying, just think of all the bands playing festivals or outdoors every year,yeah tonnes,and millions of people(bands and fans) have had the time of there lives,you might as well say dont ever play new orleans(in door or other) again,mother nature cannot be taken for granted EVER.yeah i,ve been in a crowd at a festival when people have lost there lives and it will probably happen again,as will the great white accident,or the dimebag incident,i know you are probs still in shock,but pj are performers,theatre,arena,club and festivals,accidents happen anywhere,but you are asking alot to suggest pj dont play outdoors/festivals again for your needs,cmon more chance of been hurt en route.loadsa love.

HKP · June 2007

mAci wrote:

seated shows????you are just kidding,dont you???the best solution is to play inside venues of course,but you cant guarantee that nothing can happen...and btw. in katowice,there were 45000 people on the show,more than in venice,so not playing festivals is absolutly nonsense

...yeah, and in Katowice it was pretty fucking scary for entirely different reasons.

No More Festivals!!!

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