Norway Gunman (a-hole)

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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    And this again:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/19/tech/ ... hpt=hp_bn9

    Are video games contributing to violence? I hate to admit it, but it seems like it.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    I already used the Unibomber as exhibit "A" of what giving madmen a public platform can result in. Pen Pals as exhibit "B". Family members being mortified and appalled as exhibit "C". We may have to wait a few years before I can give you exhibit "D".

    I think saddam got his day in court (although to say the cards were stacked against him is an understatement. Osama didn't deserve a date in court and it was a good move by our Nobel Peace Prize winning president (and I don't say that in jest).

    a) what are you correlating to the unibomber?
    b) never heard of this case or at least to how you refer to it
    c) again, being mortified doesn't mean it doesn't have a positive outcome

    again, the US is great at covering things up and burying this ... and yet peaceful is the last word i would probably associate with that country ...
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,432
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    And this again:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/19/tech/ ... hpt=hp_bn9

    Are video games contributing to violence? I hate to admit it, but it seems like it.
    If they really did, the entire US would be in anarchy right now.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,432
    polaris_x wrote:

    a) what are you correlating to the unibomber?
    b) never heard of this case or at least to how you refer to it
    c) again, being mortified doesn't mean it doesn't have a positive outcome

    again, the US is great at covering things up and burying this ... and yet peaceful is the last word i would probably associate with that country ...
    a) Breivak's manifesto plagarized Ted's.
    b) 20 disciples included one in the US http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/20/meet-anders-breiviks-american-pen-pal/?iid=gs-main-mostpop2
    c) For someone that tends to be pessimistic, I don't see how you can be optimistic in this case.

    As for the US, the best thing in life is simple. To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women. 8-)
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Jason P wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    And this again:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/19/tech/ ... hpt=hp_bn9

    Are video games contributing to violence? I hate to admit it, but it seems like it.
    If they really did, the entire US would be in anarchy right now.

    :lol: true.

    Well, the Norway Guman used Modern Warfare games for training :shock: , but that doesnt mean he wouldnt have went on his rampage without it I suppose.

    They always look for reasons to condemn video games, and here is another outlet.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    a) Breivak's manifesto plagarized Ted's.
    b) 20 disciples included one in the US http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/20/meet-anders-breiviks-american-pen-pal/?iid=gs-main-mostpop2
    c) For someone that tends to be pessimistic, I don't see how you can be optimistic in this case.

    As for the US, the best thing in life is simple. To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women. 8-)

    sorry ... there are a lot of nut jobs out there ... it doesn't mean covering up is going to stop them from existing ...
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    Jason P wrote:
    Insane testimony. I can't believe they are letting this testimony outside of the courts.

    Dude deserves to be tortured IMO. As it is, this is absolute best-case scenario for him. He is giddy about it.

    What is Norway thinking?

    don't give him what he wants, dont give the right wing what they want, try him as the laws are he will be put behind bars

    if you change your morals the terrorists win
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    And this again:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/19/tech/ ... hpt=hp_bn9

    Are video games contributing to violence? I hate to admit it, but it seems like it.

    no the video games didn't make him do what he wanted to do
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Do you people think he is insane / sane?

    I'd say sane but very twisted and evil.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,432
    Norway, you people are way too nice. If I had a son or daughter ruthlessly murdered and I found out the killer got to play ice hockey with taxpayer funded friends, I would lose my mind.

    Norwegian prison may hire friends for mass killer Anders Behring Breivik

    HELP WANTED: Paid position for civilians to be friends with confessed mass killer Anders Behring Breivik. Duties may include visiting his Norwegian prison to play chess or hockey.

    Details of the gig were first reported by Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang, and later translated by other media outlets.

    Breivik, a 33-year-old right-wing extremist, is currently on trial for bombing a government building in Oslo and going on a shooting rampage at a youth camp last summer. The massacre claimed 77 lives.
    The director of the prison where Breivik could be housed said steps are being taken to keep him away from other inmates.

    "Many of the measures surrounding Breivik are being created to avoid a hostage-taking, which would be the only way for him to get through all the different layers of security that have been established between him and freedom," Knut Bjarkeid told the paper.
    But Norwegian law reportedly considers it cruel punishment to keep inmates in total isolation for long periods of time.

    "We are planning a professional community around him, with employees and hired personnel," the warden said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/norwegian-prison-may-hire-friends-mass-killer-anders-130546025.html
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Isn't it good, Norwegian wood?

    Seventy-seven lives. Holy shit.

    I'd go nuts too...and I can't imagine trying to be one of those hired "friends". Reminds me of those who think being penpals with Bundy and Manson is cool beans.

    Anyone know who pays for his fellow chess and hockey players?
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,432
    They might as well just get him an Xbox too so he can play Modern Warfare 3 online.

    edit:

    Actually, based on precedent, I don't foresee the above statement being entirely out of the question.
    :fp:
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    I wonder if one of these 'hired friends' might slip and fall, accidentally eviscerating him with their hockey stick.
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  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    This is ridiculous trying to rehabilitate this fucker, just throw him in a cell for the next 21 years and let him rot.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Jason P wrote:
    Norway, you people are way too nice. If I had a son or daughter ruthlessly murdered and I found out the killer got to play ice hockey with taxpayer funded friends, I would lose my mind.

    Norwegian prison may hire friends for mass killer Anders Behring Breivik

    HELP WANTED: Paid position for civilians to be friends with confessed mass killer Anders Behring Breivik. Duties may include visiting his Norwegian prison to play chess or hockey.

    Details of the gig were first reported by Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang, and later translated by other media outlets.

    Breivik, a 33-year-old right-wing extremist, is currently on trial for bombing a government building in Oslo and going on a shooting rampage at a youth camp last summer. The massacre claimed 77 lives.
    The director of the prison where Breivik could be housed said steps are being taken to keep him away from other inmates.

    "Many of the measures surrounding Breivik are being created to avoid a hostage-taking, which would be the only way for him to get through all the different layers of security that have been established between him and freedom," Knut Bjarkeid told the paper.
    But Norwegian law reportedly considers it cruel punishment to keep inmates in total isolation for long periods of time.

    "We are planning a professional community around him, with employees and hired personnel," the warden said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/norwegian-prison-may-hire-friends-mass-killer-anders-130546025.html
    Isolation is too cruel for a person who massacres 77 people :wtf:

    77 people who's final moments were utter horror who not only faced the gunman down but saw
    friends dying around them.

    77 lost lives! and all the people who loved them, lives shattered...

    and isolation is too cruel, that blows me away.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    This does introduce some interesting philosophical questions. If people are comfortable throwing a man in prison for several decades under solitary confinement (isolation), then why are they so uncomfortable with just putting the man to death? I know people here are declaratively against capital punishment in any and all forms, but would the same people be perfectly o.k. with throwing a man in solitary confinement for decades? What if the man were to prefer capital punishment?

    sorry for steering the conversation in another direction, but it's just an interesting thought. it seems a lot of people here are triggered by an emotional response to this person's actions. I'm wondering what the rational basis is to support a certain type of punishment as 'deserving' of him.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    fuck wrote:
    This does introduce some interesting philosophical questions. If people are comfortable throwing a man in prison for several decades under solitary confinement (isolation), then why are they so uncomfortable with just putting the man to death? I know people here are declaratively against capital punishment in any and all forms, but would the same people be perfectly o.k. with throwing a man in solitary confinement for decades? What if the man were to prefer capital punishment?

    sorry for steering the conversation in another direction, but it's just an interesting thought. it seems a lot of people here are triggered by an emotional response to this person's actions. I'm wondering what the rational basis is to support a certain type of punishment as 'deserving' of him.
    No ... that would not matter...
    he should live out his life, yes far away from others and games and good times. :wtf:

    A pad of paper and a pen is all he would need.

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