Norway Gunman (a-hole)
Jason P
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Insane testimony. I can't believe they are letting this testimony outside of the courts.
Dude deserves to be tortured IMO. As it is, this is absolute best-case scenario for him. He is giddy about it.
What is Norway thinking?
Dude deserves to be tortured IMO. As it is, this is absolute best-case scenario for him. He is giddy about it.
What is Norway thinking?
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It's a good thing to make/keep it open, no? Hear his testimony, not hide it.
I think Norway wants to really work out why this happened, the people want to know. Why not let it all out?
you can't battle ignorance by hiding it ...
The first part of his plan succeeded and the second part is going better then he could have possibly imagined. Now he has pen-pals and a world stage at his command to facilitate his beliefs.
Good luck, Europe.
What if this guy was a corporation?
uhh ... what are you referring to in the nuge thread?
i have maintained all along that transparency is important ... in the trayvon martin issue ... everything ...
ok ... and what is the relevance? ... the corporately controlled media IS keeping americans ignorant ...
Who did this guy model and plagiarize his manifesto on? Remember Ted Kaczynski and how he got his way and had the Washington Post and NY times publish his thoughts? How did that work out?
And now he is describing in great detail to the entire world how he planed and executed his attack.
His preparation of materials, weapons, clothing.
Simulation training methods.
How to disguise.
Stress control.
What differs from TV and reality and how future killers can prepare themselves for those moments.
Attacking the biggest threats before executing the weak.
It is all there now for others to analyze. I'm not against having experts study his thoughts, but to deliver that information to the entire world is dangerous. And for Norway to allow him to have open communication with up to 20 pen-pals is downright condemnable and negligent.
Speaking of Pen Pals, Kevin Forts, 23, of Massachusetts … unlike anyone on this forum, you sir are about to learn first-hand about the Patriot Act.
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His testimony was physically revolting. Inside the Oslo court, a man who lost his son on the island closed his eyes hard, squeezing them shut. Another man to his left put a comforting hand to his shoulder. A woman to his right clutched onto him, resting her forehead against his arm.
Breivik said he was deliberately using "technical" language as a way to keep his composure.
Yeah, that sure sounds like healing to me …
just because you don't like the words coming out his mouth - doesn't mean we can't be better because of it ... healing doesn't only come from hearing the good ...
Let the families hear it if it helps the healing process (although it is my opinion that more damage is being done due to his brutal and thorough description), so be it. But outside of the courthouse, it should be censored.
What are your thoughts on pen pals being allowed?
well ... it's no surprise we disagree here philosophically ...
it's like racism and abuse and bullying and everything else ... we don't tackle these issues by burying its existence and its prevalence in society ... people want to believe that these people don't exist or that they are of little relevance ...
Part of the purpose of having a "cause" and creating a "disturbance" (to understate this situation immeasurably) is to draw attention to that cause. Giving him a public voice furthers that aspect of this guy's fucked up goal system.
Giving him a public voice may also do the things you describe, polaris, but then you get into the murky waters of whether more good or bad comes of it. Some good might, but if even one person is influenced on the bad side of the balance, the nature of this situation is such that the results of that negative influence would be so egregiously bad as to make the risk not worth it from the jump.
for sure ... this is why i say it's a philosophical difference of opinion ... i believe the horrors of events like this need to be shared in full ... just like the holocaust and just like the vietnam war ... and it is why i believe in wikileaks and the information put forth ... you will find truth in transparency and in truth you will find peace ...
The sad thing is he knew that this is how it would play out. He knew his country would allow this based on precedence. It's part of his plan that he is continuing to carry out.
The event hasn't ended, it's just begun.
(This is why the US had Bin Laden on a shoot-on-site order and dumped him in the sea.)
unless you can show me some proof that him being allowed to say what he's saying is going to be a bad consequence - it doesn't change anything ... the US is great at covering things up ... is it in a better place where these sort of events occur every year? ...
the reason why people like osama and saddam don't get their day in court is because the US would be embarrassed by what they know ...
I think saddam got his day in court (although to say the cards were stacked against him is an understatement. Osama didn't deserve a date in court and it was a good move by our Nobel Peace Prize winning president (and I don't say that in jest).
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/19/tech/ ... hpt=hp_bn9
Are video games contributing to violence? I hate to admit it, but it seems like it.
a) what are you correlating to the unibomber?
b) never heard of this case or at least to how you refer to it
c) again, being mortified doesn't mean it doesn't have a positive outcome
again, the US is great at covering things up and burying this ... and yet peaceful is the last word i would probably associate with that country ...
b) 20 disciples included one in the US http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/20/meet-anders-breiviks-american-pen-pal/?iid=gs-main-mostpop2
c) For someone that tends to be pessimistic, I don't see how you can be optimistic in this case.
As for the US, the best thing in life is simple. To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
Well, the Norway Guman used Modern Warfare games for training :shock: , but that doesnt mean he wouldnt have went on his rampage without it I suppose.
They always look for reasons to condemn video games, and here is another outlet.
sorry ... there are a lot of nut jobs out there ... it doesn't mean covering up is going to stop them from existing ...
don't give him what he wants, dont give the right wing what they want, try him as the laws are he will be put behind bars
if you change your morals the terrorists win
no the video games didn't make him do what he wanted to do
I'd say sane but very twisted and evil.
Norwegian prison may hire friends for mass killer Anders Behring Breivik
HELP WANTED: Paid position for civilians to be friends with confessed mass killer Anders Behring Breivik. Duties may include visiting his Norwegian prison to play chess or hockey.
Details of the gig were first reported by Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang, and later translated by other media outlets.
Breivik, a 33-year-old right-wing extremist, is currently on trial for bombing a government building in Oslo and going on a shooting rampage at a youth camp last summer. The massacre claimed 77 lives.
The director of the prison where Breivik could be housed said steps are being taken to keep him away from other inmates.
"Many of the measures surrounding Breivik are being created to avoid a hostage-taking, which would be the only way for him to get through all the different layers of security that have been established between him and freedom," Knut Bjarkeid told the paper.
But Norwegian law reportedly considers it cruel punishment to keep inmates in total isolation for long periods of time.
"We are planning a professional community around him, with employees and hired personnel," the warden said.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/norwegian-prison-may-hire-friends-mass-killer-anders-130546025.html