Courtney Love says Grohl had sex with Frances Bean Cobain

ComeToTX · April 2012

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

WTF was Kurt thinking marrying that lunatic :fp:

Kurt was never all that stable either.

musicismylife78 · April 2012

i would hope no one takes any of it seriously. I think of dave as being as much a family man and good guy as he is a musician. He's probably way more the former than the latter, and i mean that as a compliment. He's been married for years, has several kids. Dave isnt the type of guy who would cheat. You all saw back and Forth. And we know how dave is. There was a thread on this forum maybe a year ago, where someone said Dave was full of himself and egotistic. Im not sure where these people are getting their information, or who they are talking about but I dont get the sense the Foo Fighters tour bus is filled with groupies, and drugs and all that type of stuff. Even when Taylor was using i dont think he was doing so in full view of the band. The Foo's have never been that band.

If there was evidence to back up Courtneys claim, then fine. But of course, there isnt. In fact all the evidence suggest otherwise. That dave is just as he's always been: a kind, funny guy who doesnt take himself seriously or his job, and who is the nicest guy in rock. I have no problem with artists who refuse to give autographs, or talk to fans. I get that attitude. but i get the feeling, as long as he wasnt with his wife or kids, you could walk up to him and chat with him and have a good laugh. every interview, tv show appearance, fan encounter, media report, and his multi decade music career prove this

musicismylife78 · April 2012

ive always been quite impressed with frances. Youd expect and allow her to be a wreck and a mess because of her past. But she's always been very articulate, intelligent and has a great head on her shoulders. Even in her early teens, she was giving interviews and seemed wise beyond her years. I can see her pursuing art in the future.

Hugh Freaking Dillon · April 2012

DewieCox wrote:

MANKIND wrote:

i no one when i see one, said the same thing about sandusky 15 years ago.

I agree, Grohl seems to get more and more rat fuckish. He writes generic music, plays canned shows and there's a certain level of phoniness about everything he says or does in public, but since he's so "cool" he gets a pass for his douche behavior. If he turns Canadian, the lyrics get a little worse and he goes through a series of ill-advised hairdos, he better watch out.

When I read the headline I figured it would be kinda ridiculous, but there's something about Grohl that tells me that he could do something like this. He could certainly do worse things, but it sounds pretty creepy.

how in the HELL can someone come to this conclusion without knowing him personally whatsoever?

musicismylife78 · April 2012

DewieCox wrote:

MANKIND wrote:

i no one when i see one, said the same thing about sandusky 15 years ago.

I agree, Grohl seems to get more and more rat fuckish. He writes generic music, plays canned shows and there's a certain level of phoniness about everything he says or does in public, but since he's so "cool" he gets a pass for his douche behavior. If he turns Canadian, the lyrics get a little worse and he goes through a series of ill-advised hairdos, he better watch out.

When I read the headline I figured it would be kinda ridiculous, but there's something about Grohl that tells me that he could do something like this. He could certainly do worse things, but it sounds pretty creepy.

you are an intelligent person, ive known you on this board for years. how you could go from generic music to that he's a liar, adulterer, philanderer, all around bad guy is kind of ridiculous and a thing of wonder. No ones pretended the foos were anything other than what they are. Lets face it, Dave could never go the way of Fugazi considering how famous Nirvana was, and how the band ended. His next musical venture was going to be huge no matter what it was. The fact its commercial rock-pop or pop rock really has no bearing on it. Their music certainly has touched a chord with quite a few folks. Anyone who can write Everlong deserves praise into eternity.

Considering how much of Dave's life has been in the public sphere. From his days in a punk bands, to Nirvana, to the Foo's thats as I said 2 decades plus in music. Ive never heard one report other than this of him being anything other than the nice guy hes always assumed to be.

he's married, has kids, and is an all around good guy. Until someone suggests otherwise thats how he should be viewed, and thats how i want to view him as. Its kind of like Jeter in baseball. If someone like that is on steroids it sort of ruins everything good in terms of baseball, or if pujols was found to be using. it would be outrageous and world shifting. To think of dave as a cheater, liar, jerk, that certainly would be a sad day if anyone of that was true.

musicismylife78 · April 2012

whoever posted saying there are worse things he could do, thats silly. i dont think the subtext is that dave had a relationship with a grown frances. the subtext is, he had a relationship with frances, while she was younger. Both Dave and Frances are married. Dave has kids. When this supposed affair took place you'd have to believe both cheated on their spouses. given the track record of both parties, that seems unlikely and out of character.

Its just so out of character, thats why i am surprised so many people seem to be insinuating its true. Has everyone been asleep during dave's entire music career? what do you all think he does? uses coke on the bus in between groupie visits?

as far as i know the foos have a pretty family friendly tour and recording process.

MANKIND · April 2012

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

MANKIND wrote:

i no one when i see one, said the same thing about sandusky 15 years ago.

I agree, Grohl seems to get more and more rat fuckish. He writes generic music, plays canned shows and there's a certain level of phoniness about everything he says or does in public, but since he's so "cool" he gets a pass for his douche behavior. If he turns Canadian, the lyrics get a little worse and he goes through a series of ill-advised hairdos, he better watch out.

When I read the headline I figured it would be kinda ridiculous, but there's something about Grohl that tells me that he could do something like this. He could certainly do worse things, but it sounds pretty creepy.

how in the HELL can someone come to this conclusion without knowing him personally whatsoever?

oh i see, its ok for the all the courtny bashing but not the grohl bashing. i get it now.

DewieCox · April 2012

musicismylife78 wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

MANKIND wrote:

i no one when i see one, said the same thing about sandusky 15 years ago.

I agree, Grohl seems to get more and more rat fuckish. He writes generic music, plays canned shows and there's a certain level of phoniness about everything he says or does in public, but since he's so "cool" he gets a pass for his douche behavior. If he turns Canadian, the lyrics get a little worse and he goes through a series of ill-advised hairdos, he better watch out.

When I read the headline I figured it would be kinda ridiculous, but there's something about Grohl that tells me that he could do something like this. He could certainly do worse things, but it sounds pretty creepy.

you are an intelligent person, ive known you on this board for years. how you could go from generic music to that he's a liar, adulterer, philanderer, all around bad guy is kind of ridiculous and a thing of wonder. No ones pretended the foos were anything other than what they are. Lets face it, Dave could never go the way of Fugazi considering how famous Nirvana was, and how the band ended. His next musical venture was going to be huge no matter what it was. The fact its commercial rock-pop or pop rock really has no bearing on it. Their music certainly has touched a chord with quite a few folks. Anyone who can write Everlong deserves praise into eternity.

I have no problem with the success, just the mostly boring music and the passes he gets for kinda obnoxious behavior, the Grammy speech :? , the drummer/guitarist situation in the Foo's, phony persona..... It's quite the jump from this stuff to adulterer, but I'm not so naive to think that Grohl hasn't done his share of the rock star life, and that's makes that jump a little easier.

I guess the way I came to my opinion on him is the same way you and everybody else on this board has, from his public appearances. There was a time when I found him entertaining and still do from time to time, but it got to a point where it seemed he was trying to live up to his image, and Godamn!!! write a different song. The bigger the Foo's have gotten the more I've picked up on the schmuck-y vibe from him.

Callaway · April 2012

DewieCox wrote:

I have no problem with the success, just the mostly boring music and the passes he gets for kinda obnoxious behavior, the Grammy speech :? , the drummer/guitarist situation in the Foo's, phony persona..... It's quite the jump from this stuff to adulterer, but I'm not so naive to think that Grohl hasn't done his share of the rock star life, and that's makes that jump a little easier.

I guess the way I came to my opinion on him is the same way you and everybody else on this board has, from his public appearances. There was a time when I found him entertaining and still do from time to time, but it got to a point where it seemed he was trying to live up to his image, and Godamn!!! write a different song. The bigger the Foo's have gotten the more I've picked up on the schmuck-y vibe from him.

The Foo Fighters music has gotten worse and worse and it's seriously now as bad as anything Nickelback puts out but because he was the drummer in Nirvana he doesn't get called out on it. The same people who liked the last Foo Fighters album will tell you they hate Nickelback yet that album was so horrible and generic that they are actually listening to a Nickelback'esk band and they don't even know it or want to admit it to themselves. Complete and utter garbage. All he wants to do is write catchy hit songs and try to win Grammy's........I fully expect to see him in a reality TV show in the next 2 to 3 years.

Yellow Ledbelly · April 2012

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... r-20120412

Frances Bean Cobain has responded to her mother Courtney Love's recent Twitter rant accusing Foo Fighters frontman Dave Grohl of hitting on her 19-year-old daughter.

"While I'm generally silent on the affairs of my biological mother, her recent tirade has taken a gross turn," says Cobain. "I have never been approached by Dave Grohl in more than a platonic way. I'm in a monogamous relationship and very happy. Twitter should ban my mother."

Grohl also shot down Love's accusations. "Unfortunately Courtney is on another hateful Twitter rant," he said in a statement released late yesterday. "These new accusations are upsetting, offensive and absolutely untrue."

Callaway · April 2012

Yellow Ledbelly wrote:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/frances-bean-cobain-twitter-should-ban-my-mother-20120412

Frances Bean Cobain has responded to her mother Courtney Love's recent Twitter rant accusing Foo Fighters frontman Dave Grohl of hitting on her 19-year-old daughter.

"While I'm generally silent on the affairs of my biological mother, her recent tirade has taken a gross turn," says Cobain. "I have never been approached by Dave Grohl in more than a platonic way. I'm in a monogamous relationship and very happy. Twitter should ban my mother."

Grohl also shot down Love's accusations. "Unfortunately Courtney is on another hateful Twitter rant," he said in a statement released late yesterday. "These new accusations are upsetting, offensive and absolutely untrue."

What are they supposed to say....."yeah we went at it like rabbits and got our freak on baby!" I mean seriously they are not going to admit it if they did. Who really cares anyway.......unless she was under age when it happened? Unfortunately I don't see his music getting better because of this so it's really pointless.

musicismylife78 · April 2012

Because really all you are going on, if you believe this all to be true, is courtney's statement. Theres not to my knowledge been any fan who has posted on a board or run to tell the tabloids "hey i met dave and he's a jerk". Dave has been scandal free pretty much his entire career. Ive never heard any fellow musician talk about him in a negative way. Every interview ive ever seen or read has indicated the guy is exactly what he is and has been portrayed as for the past 20 plus years. So no, i dont think to believe he is a good guy is exactly the same as believing him to be a cheater. One has evidence to suggest it, one doesnt. If evidence comes out to suggest he did it, fine. At this point though, its obvious, its a single statement from courtney love.

And lets not forget her long standing hatred of Dave and Krist. As far as I know, the fued between her and Dave stretches back to 2001 when the Greatest Hits of Nirvana were released. Courtney publicly said Kurt hated Dave and Krist, and called them not integral to Nirvana. I remember something about her saying Kurt was Nirvana, and that Kurt had told her that Dave and Krist werent important. She blocked the release of You Know Your Right and tried to prevent Dave and Krist from making money and royalties off it for just this reason despite the fact that of course Dave and Krist are featured on it. That was 2001. Frances was what 13 years old. So, whatever problems that are between Dave and Courtney really have nothing to do with Frances.

I think its important to consider the whole story. The beginnings and genesis of it, and how long its gone on. Since 2001, Courtney has bashed Dave in various outlets. What her problem with him is, and what it started from I have no idea, but as I said this has nothing to do with Frances. It never did.

Im one of those people, that you know, requires actual evidence of something, to believe it. I dont slander or call people things, or accuse people of things unless there is actual evidence. Thats the case in this particular story, and its something I hold tight to and adhere to, in general, and in life.

direwolf74 · April 2012

Callaway wrote:

The Foo Fighters music has gotten worse and worse and it's seriously now as bad as anything Nickelback puts out but because he was the drummer in Nirvana he doesn't get called out on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

facepollution · April 2012

I've defended Courtney plenty of times in the past, I think she's had a tough life so it's no surprised she has so many issues.........

But, this has turned really ugly. I think her hatred of Dave Grohl stems not so much from the business decisions made around Nirvana's music, but because Dave did what she couldn't do - he moved on, and he' had an incredibly successful career since Kurt's death. The desperation on her part is scary, fair enough go after a grown man and call him all the names you want, but to go after your own daughter like this is really sad.

It's obvious she needs help, and fast. I really wouldn't be surprised if she ends up going the same way as Whitney Houston and Michael Jackson - she's clearly not living in the same world as the rest of us, and probably hasn't done for a long time. Just sad all round.

DewieCox · April 2012

direwolf74 wrote:

Callaway wrote:

The Foo Fighters music has gotten worse and worse and it's seriously now as bad as anything Nickelback puts out but because he was the drummer in Nirvana he doesn't get called out on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

I dunno if it's as bad as Nickelback, but it's just about as bland and formulaic.

facepollution · April 2012

DewieCox wrote:

direwolf74 wrote:

Callaway wrote:

The Foo Fighters music has gotten worse and worse and it's seriously now as bad as anything Nickelback puts out but because he was the drummer in Nirvana he doesn't get called out on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

I dunno if it's as bad as Nickelback, but it's just about as bland and formulaic.

I get it with some of their stuff, but they have plenty of decent stuff too. Wasting Light is a very solid record.

musicismylife78 · April 2012

facepollution wrote:

I've defended Courtney plenty of times in the past, I think she's had a tough life so it's no surprised she has so many issues.........

But, this has turned really ugly. I think her hatred of Dave Grohl stems not so much from the business decisions made around Nirvana's music, but because Dave did what she couldn't do - he moved on, and he' had an incredibly successful career since Kurt's death. The desperation on her part is scary, fair enough go after a grown man and call him all the names you want, but to go after your own daughter like this is really sad.

It's obvious she needs help, and fast. I really wouldn't be surprised if she ends up going the same way as Whitney Houston and Michael Jackson - she's clearly not living in the same world as the rest of us, and probably hasn't done for a long time. Just sad all round.

and part of it, you feel really bad for her. we all should. Kurts death was hard enough on his fans. can you imagine what it was like on his loved ones? The fact dave moved on is true, but it took years for him to deal with it. Im sure he still is dealing with it. Kurts death was shocking in a way few things are, it was and remains one of the most significant events of our generation.

the fact she has had major problems dealing with it, moving on, coming to terms with it is expected, could be expected.

Actually, now that i think, the courtney/dave feud stretches back further than 2001. Wasnt that first single from the Foo's first album, "ill stick around" a pointed reference to courtney? that wasnt about frances.

the problems between courtney and dave stem back by my recollection to 1995. The idea this is an issue about frances, thats a smokescreen. its never been about frances. nor do I think its about dave. Its dave and courtney, thats the issue

musicismylife78 · April 2012

DewieCox wrote:

direwolf74 wrote:

Callaway wrote:

The Foo Fighters music has gotten worse and worse and it's seriously now as bad as anything Nickelback puts out but because he was the drummer in Nirvana he doesn't get called out on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

I dunno if it's as bad as Nickelback, but it's just about as bland and formulaic.

thats really not the issue though is it. Bands can be bland and formulaic, and still be good people. This wasnt about a bland and generic band. This was an attack on the character and reputation of dave. thats something else entirely.

DewieCox · April 2012

musicismylife78 wrote:

thats really not the issue though is it. Bands can be bland and formulaic, and still be good people. This wasnt about a bland and generic band. This was an attack on the character and reputation of dave. thats something else entirely.

No and you're right.

It's always the people you least suspect that turn out to be scum bags.

All I can say is he rubs me the wrong way alot of times and I've never thought of him as some beacon of morality. Him banging some young chick wouldn't surprise me in the least bit. There's a certain extra creepy factor to him doing the dirty with Cobain's daughter, but those rock stars can be pretty freaky. I didn't get the insinuation that it happened when she was younger.

facepollution · April 2012

musicismylife78 wrote:

and part of it, you feel really bad for her. we all should. Kurts death was hard enough on his fans. can you imagine what it was like on his loved ones? The fact dave moved on is true, but it took years for him to deal with it. Im sure he still is dealing with it. Kurts death was shocking in a way few things are, it was and remains one of the most significant events of our generation.

the fact she has had major problems dealing with it, moving on, coming to terms with it is expected, could be expected.

Actually, now that i think, the courtney/dave feud stretches back further than 2001. Wasnt that first single from the Foo's first album, "ill stick around" a pointed reference to courtney? that wasnt about frances.

the problems between courtney and dave stem back by my recollection to 1995. The idea this is an issue about frances, thats a smokescreen. its never been about frances. nor do I think its about dave. Its dave and courtney, thats the issue

Oh yeah it goes all the way back. The thing is Dave is by nature fairly happy go lucky (so far as he has always come across in the media), kind of like Dave Abbruzzese was in Pearl Jam, where Kurt obviously had a very dark side which came out through his music Dave always came across as being of a lighter disposition - I think Courtney finds that jarring, it's all about the tortured genius for her, and Dave has been successful by just being himself. It's like she thinks Dave isn't aware quite how indebted he is to Kurt, which I don't think is the case.

Courtney Love says Grohl had sex with Frances Bean Cobain

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