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I finally got to watch all of the parts. My cat died the day it was on PBS, and I just couldn't watch it, despite planning for weeks to see it.
But anyway, I spent Thanksgiving weekend watching all of it - I loved it! So much great footage. I got just as scared as I always do, seeing footage of Ed climbing. We know he's still with us, but I always feel like is he going to make it when I'm watching him up there like spiderman. Honestly I"m glad he doesn't do it anymore.
I know a lot of people felt certain things should have been mentioned more, or less, but I felt like the parts about Andy were really important - this was a 'how it all began' and 'how they got from there to here' sort of film. I liked hearing what Jeff had to say on various topics.
I'm sure I'll have more to say after watching everything again. I liked seeing footage of several shows I'd been at - its just cool to watch and think 'I was there'! (Philly 10/30/09 MSG 5/21/10 at least)R.i.p. Rigoberto Alpizar.
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Got my PJ20 three DVD set on Friday. After the kids were in bed each night, my husband and I sat down and watched a DVD. It was fantastic. Loved each one. The movie was an excellent. Cameron Crowe who first introduced me to Pearl Jam etc. with Singles, did a great job. The bonus stuff and the two extra DVDs were incredible - especially the Fan Stats!. Recharged my soul and left me feeling 25 again. Thanks.0
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to Jeff, Stone, Ed, Mike and Matt, and Kelly too, THANK YOU!, for keeping it real for the first twenty years! and can't wait for the next twenty! and Thanks to Cameron, Jonathan and Mark (and all involved) for the DVD and Book. Peace and Luv to all!!Post edited by over50fan onLater, Lolly0
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over50fan wrote:derbydave wrote:When I'm watching the PJ20 Movie...
Why do I ALWAYS stop everything I'm doing,
and crank the volume WAY UP when the
RELEASE
segment comes on??? :ugeek:Why? I don't know, cuz I do the same thing!
Me too! I do the same thing with WOTR when ARC comes on. Pure Heaven.Feel the sky blanket you with gems and rhinestones...0 -
Now that I've had the chance to watch/listen/re-live/dance/laugh/cry/SMILE along with 'Pearl Jam: Twenty', I feel I can accurately review my thoughts and feelings about it:
Fucking amazing job by Mr. Crowe, along with the people that were around before there was a Pearl Jam to speak of, and those that are still along for the ride. I know that a great deal of people think that too much focus was put on the beginnings of the band, and while I'm also a fan of their No Code/Yield days through their last couple of records, I think it was important how perfect an alignment of events it was that this band became. It was through an unbelievable series of happenings and encounters [fortunate or tragic] that these guys met and made amazing music from day #1! I do wish the film had been maybe 2 1/2 or 3 hrs. long, then the middle years could have been more deeply portrayed, but as far as the major events and evolution of the group, I thought the director did the best he could to tell those stories as well.
I especially liked the live montage at the end with 'Alive' [goosebumps], the part where Eddie gains a little confidence thanks to some asshole bouncer who looked like he was afraid of an impending riot while Ed sings a hole directly through his soul, and where Neil Young tells them "Do what YOU want. Fuck everyone else."
Altogether, great documentary...even if I wasn't a fan, or maybe a bit more on casual fan status, I think I'd still appreciate this film for all that it is. I'm about a quarter-way through the book right now, and it's even better! Here's to 20+ more years from the best damn band in the land! CHEERSPJ: Toledo-9/22/96. E. Lansing-8/18/98. Detroit-8/23/98. Detroit-10/7/00. Detroit-6/25 & 6/26/03. Toledo-10/2/04 [VFC]. Detroit-5/22/06. Chicago-8/5/07 [Lolla]. Cleveland-5/9/10. Baltimore-10/27/13.
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I saw PJ20 in the theater and thought it was really similar to The Kids Are Alright (1978). In the fact that it was a series of historical performances dating back to the groups first televised or filmed performances. The difference in both PJ20 and The Kids Are Alright is that the Who had been around for less amount of time 1963-1977 in the time of that films making and release. Pearl Jam has been making music and history for the past 20 years and so it would require more introspective moments produced either by the band or Crowe. None of these possibilities took place nor were they a focal point in PJ20. I value the fact that privacy for each member of Pearl Jam was and is important for their existence. They should never compromise that but I do think the film could have been more generous with pre-existing interviews of the band to fill in the historical gaps. It would simply be history speaking for itself just like the music. The Music isn't enough in a documentary about a complex band like The WHo and so The Kids Are Alright also included historical interview footage that gave the audience an insight to the band members role in their own practice. PJ20 lacked this even with the recent interviews because there is too much time to cover in 2 hours. It would have benefited by simply using archival interviews to set the mode of what we would be appreciating other than the great live music.
The significance of PJ20 is still reeling with me. It is an important film. My criticism of some of the direction the band or Cameron Crowe took regarding insight or interviews in the film are important because it is the one component lacking in the film. It is like watching the film The Wiz but not having the actual Wizard behind the curtain. Having little input from the creators, the alchemists of the phenomenon known to us as Pearl Jam. So some of us may settle for the music only. Some of us may want to further our experience with insights into the production of compositions or performances. The evolution of albums not spoken much in the documentary or songs written by Mike, Stone or Jeff. More info regarding the importance of Boom Gaspar, the Hawaiian brother whose enlightened us with his knowledge for everything from Western Classical to American Rock and transcendental Polynesian/ Hawaiian Mele. Is it no wonder Eddie Vedder plays the traditional Hawaiian ukulele with such passion and conviction.
One topic or issue that is personally and extremely problematic is that fact that many Pearl Jam fans have been selling their fan only PJ20 DVD set from prices ranging from $300-$800. I admire Pearl Jam and have been devoted to their music since I first heard in in the Spring of 1991. I may not have always been a subscriber to the club and have problems with the word "fan" short for fanatic but passion for their music is not my short supply. Rather, I intentionally keep myself from having so much direct access to their music or information because its also important for everything to resonate in its own speed. This may be part of the reason why I thought it important that more historical interviews be included in PJ20 rather than the recent sparse interviews given by the band members. So now the Pearl Jam fans have resorted to selling the one box set that was made for them and not anyone else. The limited edition box set that Pearl Jam approved for their followers, the fans are now on sale for hundreds of dollars. What does that say of the followers? the fans? the committed subscribers? Money not the band is more important to them. Not a philosophy or ideology or belief in a support system set by Pearl Jam but a monetary and personal gains approach set by some of its fans. It is sad to see these box sets online being auctioned off for so much money. Reminds me of the scene in the PJ documentary of the photographer caught scalping tickets for hundreds in Australia (1995). He was flawless in his shame and through his lies we could see his motive. This band was not for him to cover or for him to experience because he didn't value their beliefs or ideology.
"this is not for you"
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What I don't understand is, if they went through the trouble of making the bonus discs, why would they limit the amount of people who see it? Why wouldn't they include those discs with every set or at least keep producing them to order? That's very easy to do with dvd/blu-ray production.
You can't blame people for selling their limited edition blu-ray or dvd set. If you buy something for $70 and know you can get $500 for it, it's extremely tempting. I'd be tempted if I bought one, especially this time of year. Some of those backpacks were sold for $1000 or more on ebay! The band is CREATING a secondary market when they put out "limited edition" merchandise. They should stop doing it. I can understand it with posters because artists do not want to over-produce those, but general merchandise should not be limited like it has been lately. They've done everything they can to prevent ticket scalping. Now they need to look at their merchandising and do the same thing. It's hypocritical. But I for one don't really care. If someone pays $1000 for a backpack they only have themselves to blame.0 -
slightly off track...but can anone enlighten me as to wha was with the white coats on eddie dvd water on the road...i feel like i missed something0
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suze b wrote:slightly off track...but can anone enlighten me as to wha was with the white coats on eddie dvd water on the road...i feel like i missed something
I've been told it's because it was "an experiment"Boston 5/17/10
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Watched PJ20, again, and I should have kept track of how many times I got chills thru the movie...one in particular, is during BETTERMAN, the crowd sings, Ed smiles and I remember the couple of times I lived it - I want to share that feeling with EVERYONE! Just think of how many people HAVE NOT felt that kind of joy, a joy to be shared with tens of thousands of other people all at the Very Same Moment!
What a great band and I was so psyched to see tour schedule for this summer in Europe, not that I can attend any of those those, but its so good to know they're keeping on! and dates for my area I'm sure are Just Around the Bend
LOVE ME SOME PJ ALWAYS!"Dream the dream others then...you will be no one's RIVAL!"
"Doo do do do doo do doo, Doo do do do doo do doo..."0 -
suze b wrote:slightly off track...but can anone enlighten me as to wha was with the white coats on eddie dvd water on the road...i feel like i missed something
When I saw Eddie play in Perth last March, they did wear the same white coats!"I'll ride the wave...where it takes me.."0 -
Purlyjem wrote:suze b wrote:slightly off track...but can anone enlighten me as to wha was with the white coats on eddie dvd water on the road...i feel like i missed something
When I saw Eddie play in Perth last March, they did wear the same white coats!
am a little excited as managed to get pj tickets for MEN in june......0 -
Just had a very serious viewing at my house. No talking, eyeglasses on, intense focus...
I think it was a pretty awesome overview of this band's insane career.0 -
Purlyjem wrote:suze b wrote:slightly off track...but can anone enlighten me as to wha was with the white coats on eddie dvd water on the road...i feel like i missed something
When I saw Eddie play in Perth last March, they did wear the same white coats!<hr>
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Every time I watch it, I pick up something new. Yesterday it was seeing the yellow-Mike-McCready-guitar-pick-t-shirts in the crowd during a live show. I kept pausing it to see if I recognized the fans from Jason Leung's Touring Van documentary.SMILE0
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It was a year & a few hours ago we got to see the premier of Pearl Jam Twenty @ the Princess Of Wales Theatre in Toronto. TIFF style. Good times!!0
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Does anyone know why you can't find Pearl Jam Twenty on any streaming platform, you can only find Pearl Jam Twenty "the kids are alright" I even had both version purchased from Apple year ago and now they both play the same version, "the kids are alright" version. The first version tells the Mother Love Bone story and this version does none of that.0
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JL213413 said:Does anyone know why you can't find Pearl Jam Twenty on any streaming platform, you can only find Pearl Jam Twenty "the kids are alright" I even had both version purchased from Apple year ago and now they both play the same version, "the kids are alright" version. The first version tells the Mother Love Bone story and this version does none of that.0
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