Why does everyone hate on Matt?

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  • evenkat
    evenkat Posts: 380
    I believe most people like Dave Abbruzzese because they think he is on Ten and was there from the beginning. There is always confusion between Dave Abbruzzese and Dave Krusen.

    Matt Cameron is the original drummer of Pearl Jam. Matt is the drummer on the tapes with Jeff and Stone. The tapes that had the music that inspired Eddie Vedder from which he wrote and sung the lyrics for Alive, Black, Once and Footsteps.

    Matt Cameron is the drummer on Temple of the Dog.

    Dave Krusen is the drummer on the Ten record.

    Matt Chamberlain had a short stint with the band before they found Dave Abbruzzese.

    I read in one the books on Pearl Jam that Dave Abbruzzese did not like Ed and actually asked Stone and Jeff to get rid of Ed, they could get another singer. Now I know it takes two and Ed wasn't easy on Dave A. either.

    So it could have been Ed being the one asked to leave the band, and us having a thread that Ed was the best singer Pearl Jam ever had.

    But I'd take Matt Cameron any day over any other drummer. And what is telling is that other bands and muscians would choose Matt Cameron.


    So why do people hate on Matt, I think it's because they feel some kind of loyalty for Dave Abbruzzese thinking he was there from the beginning.
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  • evenkat wrote:

    So it could have been Ed being the one asked to leave the band, and us having a thread that Ed was the best singer Pearl Jam ever had.

    Ya right. Are you being serious? I'm sure if Dave did ask them to off Ed, they told him to go fuck himself. That would be like someone in the Stones saying " Lets get rid of this Jagger character, okay guys" or a Led Zep member sayin " Plant's gotta go, he's worthless". Get rid of Vedder, funny stuff man, funny stuff.


    Also comparing Dave to Matt is a tad bit asinine. Matt is kind of a legend folks.



    PS - I'm sure Dave A. comes on this board and reads this message board all the time. I'm sure his response to us would go something like this:
    http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=94508351&albumID=0&imageID=15476162



    Dave's new band photo here:
    http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=94508351&albumID=0&imageID=15476173



    lol.
  • GivenToJam88
    GivenToJam88 NJ Posts: 1,187
    Matt is freakin awesome
    2006: 5/28
    2008: 6/19, 6/24, 6/25
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    2011: 6/21 (EV), 6/22 (EV), 9/11, 9/12
    2012: 9/2
    2013: 10/15, 10/16, 10/19, 10/21, 10/22, 10/27, 11/23, 11/24
    2014: 10/19
    2016: 5/1, 5/2, 5/8
    2018: 8/20, 9/2, 9/4
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Ive never seen anyone say anything bad about Matt
    Me too. Is the thread starter being sarcastic maybe?
  • Me too. Is the thread starter being sarcastic maybe?

    People rag on Matt's (awesome) songs all the time. Evacuation anyone?
  • he is the best drummer they had he doesnt suck. He is awesome i think he is one of the best drummers of the century
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  • evenkat wrote:
    Matt Cameron is the original drummer of Pearl Jam. Matt is the drummer on the tapes with Jeff and Stone. The tapes that had the music that inspired Eddie Vedder from which he wrote and sung the lyrics for Alive, Black, Once and Footsteps.

    Chris Friel is also on those tapes.
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  • Jack is the best drummer PJ has had in terms of actual drumming and creativity in his parts. Matt is still a damn good drummer, and he has written some great songs in his time with the band, which is something you didn't get with Jack. Dave A... just too busy for a band like PJ.
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  • evenkat
    evenkat Posts: 380
    I'm dead serious. I recall I also read that Dave A also questioned how come Ed got a bigger percentage off the sale of the records and shit like that. Dave A.'s a funny guy.

    It is too bad that he and Ed couldn't get along. One of them had to go. And in the end they came full circle back to Matt Cameron.

    I also loved Jack...the Whale Song is one of my favorite all time Pearl Jam songs. In My Tree...

    PJAMEDVED wrote:
    Ya right. Are you being serious? I'm sure if Dave did ask them to off Ed, they told him to go fuck himself. That would be like someone in the Stones saying " Lets get rid of this Jagger character, okay guys" or a Led Zep member sayin " Plant's gotta go, he's worthless". Get rid of Vedder, funny stuff man, funny stuff.


    Also comparing Dave to Matt is a tad bit asinine. Matt is kind of a legend folks.



    PS - I'm sure Dave A. comes on this board and reads this message board all the time. I'm sure his response to us would go something like this:
    http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=94508351&albumID=0&imageID=15476162



    Dave's new band photo here:
    http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=94508351&albumID=0&imageID=15476173



    lol.
    "...believe in lies...to get by...it's divine...whoa...oh, you know what its like..."
  • danny
    danny Posts: 2,283
    I don't understand he is a damn good drummer. I hate when I see comments on youtube like Matt is the worst drummer for PJ. Oh yeah? Im pretty sure if he sucked he wouldn't be in the band, he plays with a lot of intensity. Im glad to have him as the drummer.


    he is the dogs bollocks!
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  • Matt is mentioned throughout the drumming community. He's a legend just like Gene Kupra. There are not many drummers that other drummers find an inspiration from.
    Matt deals with all kinds from rock to jazz. That is high in my books of incredible drummers.

    Rock on Matt.
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  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,421
    I think as far as song writing and studio, Jack's got it. No other PJ drummer touches Matt on the tight live drumming though, in fact, not many drummers in the world touch matt on the live show. Granted, No Code and Yield were far better produced than anything that Matt Cameron has played on...Somebody said it on here before...O'brien+Cameron=Cream Dream.
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  • SENROCK
    SENROCK Posts: 10,736
    share wrote:
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  • stoneg
    stoneg Posts: 1,941
    Can't say anything bad about any of the PJ drummers.Matt is awesome !!!
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  • pjamaholic
    pjamaholic Posts: 1,225
    As far as I'm concerned he was the original Pearl Jam drummer because he was with Temple of the Dog. There's nothing wrong with him at all and he's with PJ to stay, so bad luck to all those who can't go past Dave and Jack, they didn't have the longevity that Matt has.
  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    I don't understand he is a damn good drummer. I hate when I see comments on youtube like Matt is the worst drummer for PJ. Oh yeah? Im pretty sure if he sucked he wouldn't be in the band, he plays with a lot of intensity. Im glad to have him as the drummer.

    Did anybody see the shit Matt was pulling this tour? Just go back and listen to the boots, he was much more outgoing on the drums (sounded much more like '98). He is just now really making these songs his own.
  • pjamaholic wrote:
    As far as I'm concerned he was the original Pearl Jam drummer because he was with Temple of the Dog.

    I guess that makes Chris Cornell Pearl Jam's original vocalist. :p (just kidding)
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